HP Gains

[wtroyster]

Ok, its been a while since i've had a subie so i ned some input please. I want to reach at least 275 hp to the wheels on my '08 WRX. I will be going to Colordo Springs, Co to MAC Autosport where they have a Dynojet 248/224. I live in Rapid City, SD which has an elevation of about 3,200 ft, however I will be moving to Warner Robins, GA where the elevation is approx 300 ft. I usually use 90 octane but i do have access to 93, and i am def not opposed to a FMIC, whatever it takes foe me to reach my goal. I currently have a Perrin DP with a high flow cat, and a perrin light weight crank pulley. I would very much appreciate any input. Thanks in advance.

Travis

[Byzantium]

You're gonna need a larger turbo (VF52 or larger) and you're gonna want to start using 93. Don't waste your time with a FMIC for such a minor upgrade.

[424wrx]

Originally Posted by wtroyster

Ok, its been a while since i've had a subie so i ned some input please. I want to reach at least 275 hp to the wheels on my '08 WRX. I will be going to Colordo Springs, Co to MAC Autosport where they have a Dynojet 248/224. I live in Rapid City, SD which has an elevation of about 3,200 ft, however I will be moving to Warner Robins, GA where the elevation is approx 300 ft. I usually use 90 octane but i do have access to 93, and i am def not opposed to a FMIC, whatever it takes foe me to reach my goal. I currently have a Perrin DP with a high flow cat, and a perrin light weight crank pulley. I would very much appreciate any input. Thanks in advance.

Travis

are you tuned? what are you using? you mentioned nothing about a tune. ive never seen a map for 90 octane fuel.

[Audiosavvy]

You will never see that power on the stock turbo. Also, why are you using 90 octane when you have access to 93?

[wtroyster]

The car is not currently tuned. The person that had the car before me did have an Access Port hooked up. As far as the 93 goes, the gas station was down for pump replacment, but it will be up and running in no time. Where would reccommend I look for an upgraded turbo? Theres so many sites! Thanks all.

[Byzantium]

Stay completely (100%) out of boost until you get retuned.

[ADAS1223]

^ or until you can get 93. search the private classifieds here for a turboz

[20SubieDude05]

I live in Colorado Springs, and MAC is in Littleton/Denver.

[Beaverboy]

The VF52 from the '09+ WRXs will bolt right up and work for your goals. Check out the classifieds for used ones.

[neversummer489]

Originally Posted by Byzantium

Stay completely (100%) out of boost until you get retuned.

Shut up.

There is no point it trying to scare someone in the "omg I need a tune every time I loosen or tighten a bolt!!" mentality. Everyone likes to say they tune for every mod but not everyone has 350 bucks to add to every mod they do. I have seen an 04 Wrx NO TUNE run a 12.99 at PIR. So stuff it with the whole tune constant crap.

The fact is you shouldn't go smash on the car with things that change the way the car runs however you can drive it and enjoy your boost. As for your power goals. You need to decide if this will be your end goals. Or at least consider it, maybe go with a new turbo and just keep it conservative and make your 275 goals, and when you are ready for more add some bolt ons and go more aggressive

[Byzantium]

Originally Posted by neversummer489

Shut up.

There is no point it trying to scare someone in the "omg I need a time every time I loosen or tighten a bolt!!" mentality. Everyone likes to say they tune for every mod but not everyone has 350 bucks to add to every mod they do. I have seen an 04 Wrx NO TUNE run a 12.99 at PIR. So stuff it with the whole tune constant crap.

Because preaching engine safety is a dumb amirite?

I knew someone who ran a completely untuned twin turbo 350Z (he installed his Greddy kit a week earlier) at the track as well. A month or 2 later he was without an engine and this took his car off the road for just over a year while he saved up for a near $10k engine replacement.

[woodys77]

Originally Posted by neversummer489

Shut up.

There is no point it trying to scare someone in the "omg I need a tune every time I loosen or tighten a bolt!!" mentality unless they have an 07 sti. Everyone likes to say they tune for every mod but not everyone has 350 bucks to add to every mod they do. I have seen an 04 Wrx NO TUNE run a 12.99 at PIR. So stuff it with the whole tune constant crap.

The fact is you shouldn't go smash on the car with things that change the way the car runs however you can drive it and enjoy your boost. As for your power goals. You need to decide if this will be your end goals. Or at least consider it, maybe go with a new turbo and just keep it conservative and make your 275 goals, and when you are ready for more add some bolt ons and go more aggressive

fixed

[boostdog]

Originally Posted by Beaverboy

The VF52 from the '09+ WRXs will bolt right up and work for your goals. Check out the classifieds for used ones.

^^ this or other turbo upgrade. /thread

[neversummer489]

Originally Posted by Byzantium

Because preaching engine safety is a dumb amirite?

I knew someone who ran a completely untuned twin turbo 350Z (he installed his Greddy kit a week earlier) at the track as well. A month or 2 later he was without an engine and this took his car off the road for just over a year while he saved up for a near $10k engine replacement.

That's an awesome story going from n/a to f/I and no tune yep bad idea. However he has a crank pully and a downpipe. You are comparing apples and oranges. I drove 6 months no tune 18 psi on a vf39. And I had an 02 Wrx it ran fine still does. I don't think it's a good idea to run no tune with significant upgrades main reason being you don't get nearly the result as you will with a tune.

Long story short your friend is an idiot and you don't need to tune for a dp unless you feel like spending almost 800 for a downpipe plus a tune.

[the suicidal eggroll]

Originally Posted by neversummer489

That's an awesome story going from n/a to f/I and no tune yep bad idea. However he has a crank pully and a downpipe. You are comparing apples and oranges. I drove 6 months no tune 18 psi on a vf39. And I had an 02 Wrx it ran fine still does. I don't think it's a good idea to run no tune with significant upgrades main reason being you don't get nearly the result as you will with a tune.

Long story short your friend is an idiot and you don't need to tune for a dp unless you feel like spending almost 800 for a downpipe plus a tune.

You had an 02, you can run the 02 with mods and no tune because the factory tune was very forgiving. The newer models (04+) are not nearly as forgiving, and you can cause serious damage by putting on certain mods without a tune, mostly due to unstable boost and the CL/OL Delay causing you to stay in CL (14.7 AFR) under heavy boost. The CL/OL issue is why there have been SO many 07 STis with broken ringlands, even stock.

[Byzantium]

Originally Posted by neversummer489

Long story short I'm an idiot

Well, that's resoundingly clear. Just because you don't go about things the correct way it doesn't mean that that's the way everyone else should do it.

[v8subie]

interwebz is serious bizness on nasioc.

[neversummer489]

Originally Posted by Byzantium

Well, that's resoundingly clear. Just because you don't go about things the correct way it doesn't mean that that's the way everyone else should do it.

I took car of my car it never ran unsafe. I made 341 whp on a stock trans and internal 02 Wrx I think I did ok. As for the op the mods he has as of right now do not require a tune nor does it put him in a adverse situation if he makes any boost. Your original post was misguiding you have yet to give proof to your statement. Untill you do so I don't see why you continue to post in this thread... If you would like I'm sure I can get you in contact with my tuner that advised me to drive my car to the shop on a stock ecu with 820 cc inj 38mm ewg full catless exhaust hta68 turbo all fueled by e85, also with the tgv's freshly deleted. Btw his shop is 60 miles away his only advice was don't drive like an ass hat. So go ahead and run your mouth, your still wrong and wasting the op's money

[AWDBrad]

Meth!!

[Byzantium]

Originally Posted by neversummer489

I took car of my car it never ran unsafe. I made 341 whp on a stock trans and internal 02 Wrx I think I did ok. As for the op the mods he has as of right now do not require a tune nor does it put him in a adverse situation if he makes any boost. Your original post was misguiding you have yet to give proof to your statement. Untill you do so I don't see why you continue to post in this thread... If you would like I'm sure I can get you in contact with my tuner that advised me to drive my car to the shop on a stock ecu with 820 cc inj 38mm ewg full catless exhaust hta68 turbo all fueled by e85, also with the tgv's freshly deleted. Btw his shop is 60 miles away his only advice was don't drive like an ass hat. So go ahead and run your mouth, your still wrong and wasting the op's money

I highlighted the piece of advice that the tuner gave you. This same exact advice is what i gave in my 1st reply. If you don't want to take into account the long standing and well known issue that Suicidal Eggroll explained for you, I don't what else there is to say. I can explain the exact same problem in as technical or as layman's terms as you want, but you're still going to tell me I'm somehow wrong.

You are potentially wasting the OP's money and time, and a lot more of it it too considering a tune is much less expensive and time consuming than a shortblock replacement or rebuild.

[wtroyster]

Thanks for all the input, im def gonna look into a vf52 asap.

[SylnceR]

if u want power u shoulda got an Evo
u can get 94oct at the station next to sally o'mallys and i heard e85 over by the westside dq.(havnt chekt that out yet) for the numbers you want id get 18g, bigger tmic(or fmic), fuel sys, and of course intake/exhaust.
you should hit 300 easy.

[spike93]

Originally Posted by AWDBrad

Meth!!

not even once