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Old 09-16-2017, 08:04 AM   #1
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http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2017...ting-car-keys/


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Everyone has scrambled around the house, searching for keys sat down in some place not remembered. BMW is considering making that harried episode a part of our past by eliminating keys for its vehicles in the future.

The Bavarian automaker may convert the key function to an app that can be loaded onto one’s cell phone since everyone has a cell phone, noted Ian Robertson, the company’s board member responsible for sales.

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“Honestly, how many people really need it,” he told Reuters, suggesting technology existed to make it so customers no longer had to put the key in the ignition to make the car start.

“They never take it out of their pocket, so why do I need to carry it around?” Robertson said. “We are looking at whether it is feasible, and whether we can do it. Whether we do it right now or at some point in the future, remains to be seen,” Robertson said.

Robertson didn’t provide details about how the system would work, whether it would need an internet connection or it could use a more localized technology like Bluetooth LE or near-field communications (NFC).

Smart phones as smart keys allows the user to not only start the car, but track its location, unlock it and potentially even park it.

However, NFC is likely to be the winner here. BMW introduced NFC in a mobile application in 2012 but hasn’t done much with the technology, perhaps because there have so far been relatively few applications for it. With the Bavarian maker set to introduce a new version of its connected services platform, the newly renamed BMW Connected Plus, we may start to see more.

The use of an app to unlock a car is already widely used by car-sharing services, including BMW’s ReachNow. Additionally, Daimler’s Car2Go and GM’s Maven use apps as well.

In fact, the Tesla Model 3 doesn’t use a key, relying on the Bluetooth Low Energy standard tied a user’s phone, to unlock the car while stored in a purse or sitting in a pocket. It also relies on NFC keycards to unlock or start the car, in the event you want to lend the car to a friend or have a valet park it.

Several supppliers, such as Continental AG and NXP are developing keyless access options. NXP is working to integrate NFC chips into door handles to grant access.

While Continental AG is showing the combination of the keyless entry and start system with a biometric element, opening up new possibilities in the field of vehicle personalization and authentication. The system allows for immediate personalization of a vehicle’s features, such as seat position, temperature and radio station preferences.


It can also be used for security enhancements, such as a touch-screen ignition button that requires a fingerprint. Continental created a joint venture with Belgian company D´Ieteren SA named OTA keys to develop and implement virtual key management solutions for car sharing services, fleet operators and car rental agencies.
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Old 09-16-2017, 12:59 PM   #2
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What happens when you drop your phone and break it while out on an errand? Or hiking in the mountains and your battery dies? I'd still want at least a fob backup. It would be cool though to be able to enable a friend to get your car for you by sending them a code to their phone.
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Old 09-18-2017, 11:39 AM   #3
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What happens when you drop your phone and break it while out on an errand? Or hiking in the mountains and your battery dies? I'd still want at least a fob backup. It would be cool though to be able to enable a friend to get your car for you by sending them a code to their phone.
Just embed a chip in your head, dude. You'll never forget it.
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Old 09-18-2017, 01:06 PM   #4
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Just embed a chip in your head, dude. You'll never forget it.
You laugh, but embedded chips could become normal in our lifetime.
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Old 09-18-2017, 01:57 PM   #5
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Well, they did away with dipsticks so I'm sure this will happen. I did kind of laugh at this comment though:

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"Honestly, how many people really need it," he told Reuters, suggesting technology existed to make it so customers no longer had to put the key in the ignition to make the car start.
"They never take it out of their pocket, so why do I need to carry it around?" Robertson said.
I bet that is a small minority of vehicle owners that have this hastle

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Old 09-18-2017, 08:05 PM   #6
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Spare tire gone.
Dipstick gone.
CPO warranty not transferable.
CPO warranty now only 1 year.

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Old 09-19-2017, 02:50 PM   #7
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People already freak out when they can't text or social media when their phones go dead. I can't imagine when they realize they can't start their car.

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“Honestly, how many people really need it,” he told Reuters, suggesting technology existed to make it so customers no longer had to put the key in the ignition to make the car start.

“They never take it out of their pocket, so why do I need to carry it around?” Robertson said. “We are looking at whether it is feasible, and whether we can do it. Whether we do it right now or at some point in the future, remains to be seen,” Robertson said.
So while it is convenient to have keyless fobs, people still have house/apt keys that need to be carried around when they leave home and drive somewhere. Even then, many/most keyless fobs still have a solid key for backup to manually open the door in the event the fob stops working.
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Old 09-19-2017, 03:31 PM   #8
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More reasons the smartphone batteries have to be constantly charged, lol. It's already bad enough that most smartphone manufacturers don't pack more than 3500 mAh batteries into their smartphones. The fact that QuickCharge 4 still isn't widespread on smartphones in 2017 just adds to that fire.

Hopefully all of the BMW owners test this first before any reasonable person has to deal with this crap.
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