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02-05-2013, 12:33 PM | #1 |
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11 Sti, Killerb Header, TMIC, Intake, DP, EBC 92oct
Got my car tuned yesterday @ JMS in San Antonio
Car is blast to drive and i think we got some good numbers Mods: Cobb SF intake Killeb B EL header Tsudo Catleed DP Invidia N1 Race Exhaust Grimmspeed EBC Deatschwerks 65c Pump NGK 1 Step Colder Plugs Tuned for 92oct Mex Fuel
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02-05-2013, 12:39 PM | #2 |
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nice! looks like a fun daily driver. get some e85 or race gas in there and see how far it can go!
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02-05-2013, 01:33 PM | #3 |
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We don't have E85 in Mexico, but i could probably mix it myself (ethanol is easy to get and our gas does not contain any)
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02-05-2013, 05:26 PM | #4 |
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Any idea what injector duty cycle was on this setup? On typical stage 2 its not uncommon to get very close to 100%. Wonder if by getter bigger injectors would net even higher gains.
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02-05-2013, 06:37 PM | #5 |
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I actually did not check that, ill ask the guys @ JMS to check the logs.
Also we had gotten to a point where we were @ another +10-15 hp we dialed it back, since i could not bring the 92oct no Ethanol fuel i would be using, so we tunes for 92 octane and dialed it down to a safe zone... |
02-09-2013, 10:40 AM | #6 |
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02-10-2013, 12:43 PM | #7 |
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Wow it's impressive how you manage to keep your idc's down. Must have something to do with the header. I've seen how that header will produce more power with less boost than other headers. My idc's were running @100 just on a stage 2 setup.
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02-10-2013, 01:45 PM | #8 | |
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YEP! That header is an AMAZING piece. OP Add e85 and have the pull start at 2k rpm, you will see 300ftlbs before 3k rpm. |
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02-10-2013, 02:06 PM | #9 |
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wow this is AWESOME, great lines on the dyno.
Didnt know mexico gets non-ethanol gas, cool! |
02-10-2013, 02:25 PM | #10 |
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Jr, I know you've done a ton of tuning on different setups, in terms of power torque and spool, how do you think the killer bee header compares to perrin, gt spec, tomei, invidia etc?
Seems to be very similar from what I've seen but I've never seen a back to back or anything. |
02-11-2013, 12:31 AM | #11 | |
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They are way ahead of the game. At first I figured they were the best choice for a 300-400whp car.... After tuning Manitou's XTi and seeing that even on a bigger turbo they work AWESOME I am sold. They spool faster, and make more power then the rest. The rest of those brands are pretty much the same basic design that has been around for years |
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02-11-2013, 01:00 AM | #12 | |
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02-11-2013, 07:13 AM | #13 |
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02-11-2013, 10:43 AM | #14 |
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Probably stock pump was falling off. He has a 65c
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02-11-2013, 11:07 AM | #15 |
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02-11-2013, 11:30 AM | #16 |
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02-11-2013, 03:56 PM | #17 | |
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EDIT: Before I get torn apart on this, I realize VE can increase without total engine airflow increasing, and vice versa. Last edited by BlazeRex; 02-11-2013 at 04:11 PM. |
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02-11-2013, 08:43 PM | #18 |
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02-11-2013, 09:12 PM | #19 | ||
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02-12-2013, 03:26 PM | #20 |
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Key word in volumetric efficiency is efficiency. Efficiency means doing more with less by definition. It's a beautiful thing!
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02-12-2013, 04:45 PM | #21 |
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Honestly I would be surprsied if duty cycle dropped at all. It would only be if they would be able to run it leaner. To reduce the amount of fuel needed, you need to lean it out or stop flowing as much air. Now unless they backed the car down power-wise with the headers, I.E. kept dropping boost until they made the same numbers as without the headers. So flowing less total air, but making the same power. That would be the only way IDCs would drop. It would only be minimal IDC savings, and would not be my tuning strategy. Actually taking advantage of what the header has to offer power-wise, I would expect IDCs to stay similar or even slightly more.
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02-12-2013, 04:54 PM | #22 |
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I guess you just don't get it.....do you? I'm done trying to explain this to you! You either get it or you don't!! I'm not talking VE now! Don't confuse the two issues. Do a little more research and you may find out how we lower IDC and flow more air fuel and make more power!
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02-12-2013, 04:56 PM | #23 |
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What have you tried to explain? What experience do you have in the matter? I don't see (unless youre limiting power), How adding a higher flowing, more efficient header can lead to less fuel flowing.
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02-12-2013, 05:04 PM | #24 | |
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02-12-2013, 05:04 PM | #25 |
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