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07-03-2014, 12:14 AM | #4626 |
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Idk cause I'm not sure how the extra half inch of width makes a big difference. Upstate ny gets a good amount of snow so I wanna make sure it works but I also want to make sure it looks decent too. $800 for the wheels and tires total.....
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07-03-2014, 12:34 AM | #4627 |
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The narrower tire really makes a difference in fresh unplowed snow. I live in Tahoe, and we average 30-40 feet per year. I run the stock STI size of 245/18 with no issue. Don't worry about it and run stock size.
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08-25-2014, 10:40 PM | #4628 |
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2015 STI winter wheels
Just bought a 2015 STI and was planning on using older STI 5x114.3 17" wheels for my snow tires. I was under the impression that the wheel fitment was the same and that these would clear the brakes. Is that accurate?
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08-30-2014, 09:25 PM | #4629 | |
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PS I'm running a XV Crosstrek and am leaning toward a 16" tire package. |
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08-30-2014, 11:18 PM | #4630 |
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make: subaru model: wrx location: Columbus, OH tires only or winter package: hmmm... Here are my options: 1) put winter tires on stock rims (right now I'm thinking Altimax arctics but not sure what size.) and get another summer setup. 2) put all-season tires on new 18s (right now I'm thinking 235/40R18 Conti ExtremeContact DWS or Hankook ventus S1 noble2) I'm in central Ohio. We had a pretty bad winter last year. I don't have a terrible commute, but I park on the street on a side street that doesn't get plowed often, and I need to drive every day. Any advice welcome. Last edited by irishexpat; 08-31-2014 at 11:42 PM. |
08-31-2014, 04:44 AM | #4631 | |
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08-31-2014, 04:46 AM | #4632 |
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Im just letting go of the narrower is better ethos....I was fixated on it for a long time, but if youre not driving rally, I dont think it matters. It was tough to do...
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08-31-2014, 11:02 AM | #4633 |
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make: subaru model: sti location: central new jersey tires only or winter package: winter performance tires only im torn between dunlop winter sport 3ds and pirelli sotto zero 3s. my last winter tire set i have been driving on for the past 3 winters were dunlop winter sport m3s. as much as i liked the m3s and was just going to buy the 3ds im curious how the sotto zeros compare: if the sotto zeros are better or about the same, or should i just stick with dunlops? has anyone tried both tires? any feed back is appreciated. thanks! |
08-31-2014, 12:01 PM | #4634 |
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Anyone know if 215/55R16 will fit the 2015 WRX? These are off a 2007 Cobalt SS (non-supercharged) that has OEM 205 17s.
I'm thinking they won't work, but I'm ignorant to tire/sizing so apologize if a stupid question! |
08-31-2014, 12:32 PM | #4635 |
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I'm not sure if this was a typo or not - but any R16 tire will not work on the 2015 - we have 17 inch wheels stock.
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08-31-2014, 05:44 PM | #4636 | |
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08-31-2014, 06:23 PM | #4637 | |
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Also keep in mind that any winter tire will perform significantly worse when it's 50% worn (or more). Tread depth has a huge effect on snow performance. |
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08-31-2014, 09:10 PM | #4638 |
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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....l=Blizzak+WS80
"When the Blizzak WS80 is 50 percent worn, a tread depth indicator molded into the tread design lets the driver know that only 10 percent of the remaining tread is Multicell compound." I bet Bridgestone reasoning is exactly that. At 50% tread depth the winter tires are not winter capable anymore so why bother with magic compound. It only makes transition a double whammy - shallow tread depth cobined with all season compound. Apparently never be late replacing WS series as they have dramatic difference between the two phases of their life. Krzys |
08-31-2014, 10:13 PM | #4639 | |
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I'd be extremely surprised if it was an all-season compound underneath. It's more than likely a "regular" winter compound without the multicell feature. |
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09-01-2014, 11:49 AM | #4640 |
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considering that stock summer tire on stock rims are 235 45 17 can i use my 225 55 17 winter tires on stock wrx rims ?
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09-01-2014, 01:16 PM | #4641 | |
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It's my understanding that's pretty common. Similar to tires that have an abundance of built in siping, rarely does that siping go all the way down to the end of life of the tires. |
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09-01-2014, 02:24 PM | #4642 | |
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Tires don't have full depth siping because it makes the tire significantly more difficult to remove from the mold once it's finished curing, and once you've lost that much tread depth, the sipes don't provide as much benefit. As much as you'd like to think that the tire manufacturers are trying to swindle you into buying a new set once the tires are half worn, they would never assume the responsibility of knowingly reducing the safety of the tire just to make another sale. |
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09-01-2014, 02:49 PM | #4643 | ||
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2. Siping is done after the tire is removed from the mold. It's slices made into tread blocks. If it were done in the mold, removing the tire would be very difficult and the mold would not last long. (Have you ever made anything in a mold? I'm guessing not.) 3. Um... FIRESTONE? All new cars now have TPMS... because they did exactly that for the tires on the Ford Explorer. |
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09-01-2014, 03:10 PM | #4644 | |
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The sipes are built into the mold. Do you have any idea how time consuming it would be to add siping after the tire is cured? I'm guessing you've never seen a tire mold before. The Firestone incident is exactly why tire companies are so concerned about safety these days. |
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09-01-2014, 10:25 PM | #4645 | |
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Winter tires have Tread Wear Indicators at two levels. Lower is legally required 2/32. Higher (the first one to be reached) is the snow wear bar. It is the way for manufacturers to indicate that winter tire reached the end of its snow service (ice may be different as it does not compress but hard to imagine winter tire for ice only). If you have winter tires, please measure both and tell us what they are. Per my knowledge they are 2/32 and 6/32 usually with 11 or 12/32 as starting depth. That means winter tires are winter capable for first 50% of the starting tread depth. Afterwards they are good for replacement or to be wear out in warmer weather. Krzy***347; |
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09-01-2014, 10:55 PM | #4646 | |
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Ever own a set of blizzaks? Ive had 3 sets of 3 models. They decline significantly after the multicell is gone. If thats a winter compound under there, its the worst ever. Goodyear ultra grip ice is my new snow tire anyway, way happier with them than all the blizzaks. The wrx will be back on its set, and the new forester will be getting a set soon for this winter. |
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09-01-2014, 11:44 PM | #4647 | |
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I do however believe that the useful 'snow/ice' life of a winter tire is not the full life of the tread. Not done to swindle people, but just because of the physics of tires. |
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09-01-2014, 11:49 PM | #4648 | |
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Yes, this is why they have the tread wear bars. I replace mine after two winters. After that they are not nearly as affective. On some cars I'll run that last season through the summer. Sent from my iPad using NASIOC |
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09-02-2014, 12:46 AM | #4649 | |
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I guess you could call those large sipes. However, sipes are typically cut. Siping has been around for decades and takes very little time if you have a large-scale industrial way to do it. For the small-scale way to do it, see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtk4ijS4gOo So no, siping cured rubber is not prohibitive in the least. The Firestone incident proves that tire companies might do things of questionable safety; it sure as hell doesn't disprove it. Last edited by WestLoopWRX; 09-02-2014 at 12:59 AM. |
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09-02-2014, 12:30 PM | #4650 |
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