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Old 03-19-2003, 06:47 PM   #1
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Default what's the deal with WR blue mica???

I think this color has been only only a couple of limited production subaru cars. ie: 22b, s401 etc. I absolutely love the color and I am hell bent on getting it on an STI. How come it's soooo limited and rare, its a beuatiful color. Is their perhaps some drawbacks to it? expensive maybe? or what? could a paint shop get the same color with factory quailty?
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Old 03-20-2003, 02:06 PM   #2
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subaru blue is kinda odd

you have
sonic blue mica
world rally blue (99 rs)
555 blue
world rally blue (02-03) yes they are differnt

i am not that sure that the Sti color is differnt than the 22b

oh yeah the prodrive rally cars are yet another color
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Old 03-20-2003, 02:15 PM   #3
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The STis I have seen in person seem to be the same WR Blue that has been on the US WRXs. However, I did notice in Australia (or was it UK?) Subaru site where you can view the car in different colors, they are showing it in Mica Blue. It is much lighter and softer than the WR Blue.

I assume we are getting the WR Blue since that's the color they've been showing off.
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Old 03-20-2003, 02:23 PM   #4
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whats the color code on sonic blue mica or WR blue mica
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Old 03-20-2003, 07:36 PM   #5
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Default Re: what's the deal with WR blue mica???

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perhaps some drawbacks to it? expensive maybe? or what? could a paint shop get the same color with factory quailty?
Matching subaru factory paint quality shouldn't be much of a problem...
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Old 03-21-2003, 09:47 PM   #6
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The one you see in Australia is the same as Pacifica Blue here in North America. Pacifica Blue is known as Reddish Blue in some markets.

Different markets often have different colour names, this causes confusion. Not to mention that photographs given different light or colour correction seldom show the same car the same way twice.
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Old 03-22-2003, 02:04 AM   #7
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Sonic Blue (93F) != WR Blue

Sonic blue is the WRC, 22B color (and also a few limited edition STi's).

WR Blue is different.

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Sonic Blue (93F) != WR Blue

Sonic blue is the WRC, 22B color (and also a few limited edition STi's).

WR Blue is different.

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Two of the major companies involved in color matching for vehicle refinishing, Spies Hecker and Standox, are now owned by DuPont and seem to share the same paint color matching database, accessible via either http://www.shcolor.info or http://www.sxcolor.info. This database doesn't have any entry for paint code 93F nor does it associate the color description "Sonic Blue" with either Subaru or Prodrive. I'm not saying that a paint color with that code and name doesn't exist. I'm suggesting that it might be very hard to get a paint shop to match it. However, one can find many "blues" associated with Subaru (click here) and two other "blues" with "Prodrive" in the description (click here).
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Old 03-22-2003, 06:58 PM   #9
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When Alex Fedorak had the #0001 1998 2.5 RS painted in Sonic Blue (it was Rally Blue Pearl), he actually personally brought the paint with him from Japan. (or so the story goes. This is the car that became the 2.5 RX SCC project car).

No Subaru has been sold in the US painted Sonic Blue.

P1 is Sonic Blue.

John Felstead's JDM STi V RA limited 4dr is Sonic Blue. Beautiful color!!!

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Glenn, my post was not intended to suggest that the color called Sonic Blue never existed. I know full well that P1s in the UK were marketed as Sonic Blue. I was merely suggesting that if you showed up at your local high-end paint shop and demand Subaru Sonic Blue for your respray, you might be disappointed.

In my post above, I listed all the Subaru paint color variations which included the word Blue in the color description. You probably noticed that none of those descriptions used the terms World Rally or WR. So I looked up the most recent (from my impaired perspective) paint TSB for Subaru Imprezas, 12-75-01R. As you can see, the color code for USDM WR Blue is 02C. When I plug that in to http://www.shcolor.info I find this color description: BLUE PEARL-MET. No mention of WR or World Rally or World Rallye. Perhaps the same is true of Sonic Blue - it's in the database, hiding under a different name.

The only reason I can see to repaint/refinish a newly-deliverd STi is for show purposes. In this case I suggest a "high pedigree" paint color name such as 'New 555 Blue Mica' (color code 74F).
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Old 03-22-2003, 11:06 PM   #11
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Sure, I was just telling you what I knew (or didn't know) about it.

Now that I think of it, maybe my brain transposed 93F and 74F.

I notice Steve Breen's site lists Sonic Blue as 74F.
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Old 03-22-2003, 11:29 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jaxx
subaru blue is kinda odd

you have
sonic blue mica
world rally blue (99 rs)
555 blue
world rally blue (02-03) yes they are differnt

i am not that sure that the Sti color is differnt than the 22b

oh yeah the prodrive rally cars are yet another color
Mica blue looks the BEST, (the identical color that the Acura TL have) the other blue are just kinda odd.
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Old 03-23-2003, 08:07 PM   #13
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Mica blue = Blue Ridge Pearl
Hmm. How did you arrive at this conclusion? Examining the SOA TSB for paint colors, 13-75-01R, I see that the code for Blue Ridge Pearl is 95H. But when I consult the list of Subaru colors that contain the word "blue" in their description in the Spies Hecker database, I see many "blue mica" entries, but none of them with a color code of 95H. But, as I mentioned earlier, the Spies Hecker color descriptions may not match the color names under which Subarus are marketed in various regions of the world.

A fascinating and colorful topic.
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Old 03-24-2003, 05:18 PM   #14
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so the USDM 04 STi is WRB like the 02-03 WRX's?

im confused now

and does anyone think that this will be the only avail color? based on EVERY press car being blue?

I know they had that survey and everyone has been told 4 diff colors, but we havent seen anything but blue...sneaky bastids!
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Old 03-24-2003, 05:43 PM   #15
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Nah, it's just that blue + gold is the official subaru color.
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Old 03-26-2003, 12:11 PM   #17
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Hi there,

With reference to the link above, here are the colors we get in France for STi 8, known as STi MY 2003 here:

Pure White (non metal)
Premium Silver (metal)
Black Mica (metal)
WR Blue Mica (metal)

Note Black Mica (called Graphite Black Mica in the UK) is completely different from previous Blue Black Mica we had on MY 2002 STi. It reflects gold, an not dark blue anymore.

Hope this helps
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Old 03-26-2003, 03:54 PM   #18
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Note Black Mica (called Graphite Black Mica in the UK) is completely different from previous Blue Black Mica we had on MY 2002 STi. It reflects gold, an not dark blue anymore.
The black that was on the order form was called "Java". Whether or not this was a misprint or a mistake it was the listed black color available.
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Old 03-27-2003, 05:22 AM   #19
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Well, I expect it to be the same as the one we've got in old Europe...

Here's a couple of pics of mine, even if not really displaying the gold reflect







Note that I removed the WRX Impreza and STi logos (trunk and grill badges).
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According to the IWOC guys, your MY03 STi is an STi 9 (there being TWO bug eye STis, the 7 and 8, MY01, MY02) though this is no longer official numbering. I believe the 7 (MY01 bug eye) was JDM only, and the first Euro non-gray version was the MY02. I could be wrong.

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Hi Glenn !

Quite difficult to answer as this numbering started in with version 2, and we only got our first STi's in Eurpoe in the end of 2001 (MY 2002 for us). My car is the Euro spec MY2003, so my understanding of the line up is that it is a version VIII.

If you wan't to follow me, let's try to get back where it started. Seems they were not planning such a line up when they build the first WRX STi version in 1993'


Pink blood inside. Note the very first hi-wing on the trunk.

I found the following history on the web:

(93/10 -`94/08)
WRX STi Version GC8B48D
WRX STi Version GF8B58D

(94/09-`95/08)
WRX type RA STi Version GC8C47D

(95/08-`96/08)
WRX STi Version II GC8C4ED
WRX STi Version II 555 GC8C4ED
WRX type RA STi Version II GC8C4DD
WRX type RA STi Version II V-Limited GC8C4DD
WRX STi Version II GF8C58D
WRX STi Version II 555 GF8C58D

(96/09-`97/08)
WRX type R STi Version GC8D2DD
WRX STi Version III GC8D4ED
WRX STi Version III V-Limited GC8D4ED
WRX type RA STi Version III GC8D4DD
WRX STi Version III GF8D5ED
WRX STi Version III V-Limited GF8D5ED

E : (97/09-`98/08)
WRX type R STi Version IV GC8E2DD
WRX type R STi Version IV GC8E2DD
WRX STi Version IV GC8E4ED
WRX type RA STi Version IV GC8E4DD
WRX type RA STi Version IV V-Limited GC8E4DD
WRX STi Version IV GF8E5ED

E 22B: (98/03-`98/08)
22B STi Version GC8E2SD

F : (98/09-`99/08)
WRX type R STi Version V GC8F2DD
WRX type R STi VersionV Limited GC8F2DD
WRX STi Version V GC8F4ED
WRX type RA STi Version V GC8F4DD
WRX type RA STi Version V Limited GC8F4DD
WRX STi Version V GF8F5ED

G : (99/09-`00/08)
WRX type R STi Version VI GC8G2FD / INT
WRX type R STi Version VI LIMITED GC8G2FD / INT
WRX STi Version VI GC8G4ED / INT
WRX type RA STi Version VI GC8G4DD
WRX type RA STi Version VI LIMITED GC8G4DD / INT
WRX STi Version VI GF8G5ED
WRX STi Version VI LIMITED GF8G5ED / INT
WRX STi S201 LIMITED

New age WRX
(This is from my knowledge, some dating might be inacurate):

(00/09-`01/08)
WRX STi Version VII
WRX STi Version VII Prodrive style

(01/09-`02/08)
WRX STi Version VII
WRX STi Version VII Prodrive style
WRX STi Version VII type RA spec C
WRX STi Euro spec. (MY2002)
WRX STi Euro spec Prodrive style limited
WRX STi S202 limited

(02/10-`today)
WRX STi Version VIII JDM (Twin scroll 2.0)
WRX STi Version VIII type RA spec C JDM
WRX STi Euro spec. (no DCCD, no HID, 2.0L similar to previous MY)
WRX STi US spec.(USDM, 2.5L, type RA BBS wheels, DCCD, etc...)


Am I wrong somewhere ???

Bye for now,
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Sorry, I forgot to mention that Version are not directly related to MY, as you can see in the GC8 story.
There is a certain overlap...

This is why I guess you are wrong thinking JDM and European MY2001 and MY2002 were two different versions... I'm pretty sure they were one: the seventh

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