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Old 02-18-2013, 03:01 PM   #1
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Edit: Upon the advice given below, I am now looking for a MIG welder.

I'm looking to learn to weld a bit and practice so that I can eventually weld an exhaust and other unforeseen broken things. I pretty much know jack ****, but I was hoping I could buy the torch kit with welding attachments and then rent or buy the tanks to use.

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If anyone has anything for sale or even any advice, it would be much appreciated.

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I'm looking to learn to weld a bit and practice so that I can eventually weld an exhaust and other unforeseen broken things. I pretty much know jack ****, but I was hoping I could buy the torch kit with welding attachments and then rent or buy the tanks to use.

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If anyone has anything for sale or even any advice, it would be much appreciated.

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My advice would be don't waste your time with gas welding and save up for a half decent MIG welder.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:07 PM   #3
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I was told that it is much easier to weld exhaust with oxy acetylene.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:37 PM   #4
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I was told that it is much easier to weld exhaust with oxy acetylene.
I've been welding for 14 years and have never even done it, it's very out dated. As far as welding an exhaust, it's far easier to weld an exhaust (on the car) with a mig gun than a torch with open flame.

Overall having a MIG welder will be more beneficial.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:02 PM   #5
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MIG all the way, pretty easy to work with, especially if you avoid flux. If you are anywhere near Easton MA I highly recommend taking the night welding class at STI. Lots of fun and you'll get all the basics down, including some TIG and plastic welding.

The only thing I've used acetylene for is cutting, and it does a good job at that.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:52 PM   #6
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Okay thank you very much guys! I will look into a MIG setup. It's always nice when random people on forums prevent me from making bad decisions.

I would like to take a class is it's not too expensive, especially if I could get one of my friends to come with me.
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I have this mig welder and love it.
when I ordered it around christmas I got free welding hood.
http://www.eastwood.com/mig-welder-1...5a-output.html
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It looks like a lot of other people like that welder too! Thanks for the suggestion, I may be buying one sooner than I thought. I'm going to do a bit more research and see what I can find for classes, but I've also got a friend who might be willing to teach me. He MIG'd his exhaust on his Camaro, and to my [untrained] eye, it looks stunning. Of course, looks don't mean anything...but he's done other work for mutual friends and as far as I know, none of his welds have failed.
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I bought my argon bottle on ebay and had filled it at arc source way cheaper then buying one there.
I still love my miller synchrowave 350 at work but thats for doing tig welding on stainless and aluminium.

on classes you should be able to find some at local votech schools. I've been learning welding for 10 years at work. it just takes practice.
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Thanks, yea I know I can't expect to learn to weld straight away, but I hope to be halfway decent and able to 1) Not catch myself on fire (biggest objective) and 2) make welds that will actually do what I want them to do, even if they could be better.

And bump too...used options are always welcome.
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I'm going to do a bit more research and see what I can find for classes, but I've also got a friend who might be willing to teach me.
http://www.sti-tech.info/

Access to scrap material, wire, gas, big machinery. Well worth the cost. The autobody class is great too.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:59 AM   #12
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I would recommend a Hobart Handler 140 one similar. Cost me about $500 from NorthernTool but they also threw in a free rolling cart and shipping. I'm a pretty terrible welder but this thing makes up for any lack of expertise IMO. If you plan on taking up welding, invest in a quality machine (hobart, lincoln, miller, etc).
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Good to know, thank you! I am now wondering if I will be okay with a 110V. I don't really have easy access to a 220.
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I have a Lincoln 140, 110v. It's a trade off, do you want to work with thicker stock or be able to use the welder pretty much anywhere? More power makes it easier to hose things up too.
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I think I'd like to be able to use the welder pretty much anywhere. Good advice! I don't think I'll really be needing to weld much thick stuff...for now. Also, if I want to weld something thick, chances are it is also something structural, which means that I don't want to weld something thick...not for a while, at least.
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The hobart 140 is also 110v, and it handled welding on the frame of my car just fine (plenty of penetration). You just need to limit the amount of time you run a continuous weld or it will trip the breaker
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Thank you, I think a good 110V will do just fine for me. Awesome. The Hobart is a bit on the steep side, but if that's where I should go, I can save for it.

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used to have a lincoln 125 110v, it was ok. now i have a millermatic 185 (220v) and can weld nearly 1/2" i would never ever go back to a 110v
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110v mig is good for thin body work and home stuff. as long as there not flux core. make sure its works with argon.

if you want to weld thick metal 220v tig welder all day

I like the miller's the best but your going to pay for them.
I went for the cheaper chinese welder for home use and if I have anything real critical to weld there is a nice 5k ac.dc welder at work that runs on 480v and goes up to 350 amps.
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I'm a noob to welding but I thought you couldnt MIG aluminum (exhaust) I thought it had to be TIG welded. I'm looking into purchasing an inexpensive welder, but something a little higher grade than harbor freights stick welder pos. It will be used for small things like intercooler piping, vband flanges, and exhausts...
How much am I looking at spending & what would you guys recommend?
I figured I'd post here instead of starting a new thread.
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you could mig aluminum but you need a spool gun.
best bang for the buck with a 3 year warranty is eastwood welders for any diy types.
if money was no object I love miller and could spend 3-5k easy on nice setup.
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I'm a noob to welding but I thought you couldnt MIG aluminum (exhaust) I thought it had to be TIG welded.
Exhausts aren't aluminum, or were you referring to exhaust fumes? I found working with aluminum to be tricky and frustrating.
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Exhausts aren't aluminum, or were you referring to exhaust fumes? I found working with aluminum to be tricky and frustrating.
That just means you didn't master it! Once you perfect TIG welding aluminum you won't wanna weld anything else.
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I'm a noob to welding but I thought you couldnt MIG aluminum (exhaust) I thought it had to be TIG welded. I'm looking into purchasing an inexpensive welder, but something a little higher grade than harbor freights stick welder pos. It will be used for small things like intercooler piping, vband flanges, and exhausts...
How much am I looking at spending & what would you guys recommend?
I figured I'd post here instead of starting a new thread.
Mig or Tig?

For a small inexpensive (kinda) TIG I've had great luck with Thermal Dynamics inverter machines. If you wanna be able to TIG aluminium your gonna need a machine that can TIG on AC. You can find DC tig welders for around $1000 but stepping up to a machine with AC usually adds $500+.
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