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02-15-2006, 10:37 AM | #1 |
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Cobb AP issues....
ok just installed my AP on the car and put the base map as "stock mode". then i flashed a real time "stage 2 93" map to the car. i literally feel NO performance increase whatsoever. boost guage is reading between .1 and .11 . i know thats about 15 psi. did everything the instructions said. what could i have done wrong? all i ever heard was it was supposed to be this HUGE increase in power, and i got nothing (butt dyno).....
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02-15-2006, 10:40 AM | #2 |
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Cobb recommends putting the stage 2 93 base map as well as the realtime map. Some people say it takes a bit of time for the car to learn.... but I felt a difference right away going from stage 1 to stage 2.
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02-15-2006, 10:42 AM | #3 | |
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so just change the base map to stage 2 93 and switch real time again or leave it? |
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02-15-2006, 10:43 AM | #4 |
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what boost is everyone else seeing? i think its supposed to be 16.5 give or take .5 right?
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02-15-2006, 10:47 AM | #5 | |
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+1. Make stage 2 your base map. Dumb question, but you have at least a higher flow downpipe right? Cobb recommends TBE. For stock hardware you can only do stage 1. |
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02-15-2006, 10:57 AM | #6 | |
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true true i have a DP and cat back. just changed the base map. heres a real dumb question. in the book to read live boost it says make sure key is in the on position but doesnt say anything about starting the car. this is ok right? i just dont want to muck anything up. |
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02-15-2006, 11:01 AM | #7 | |
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Do u have a boost gauge as well??? what map are u coming from?? u need to load base map Stage 2 93 & realtime map Stage 2 93 no matter what. |
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02-15-2006, 11:04 AM | #8 | |
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02-15-2006, 11:08 AM | #9 |
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ok thanks...... yeah im coming from NO map (read <<<profile -.5 ) so target should be 15.8 +/- .5 ...... well i guess ill give her another go. do i need to re flash the stage 2 real time now that ive changed the base again?
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02-15-2006, 11:21 AM | #10 | |
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Coming from no map to stage 2, u will definitely feel a big difference. |
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02-15-2006, 11:42 AM | #11 |
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just took it for a test drive.....its a little better but not what i was expecting i cant believe i paid 600 bucks for it. if i knew i would have paid 300 tops. i read live boost and its hitting 16.3psi. but alas butt dyno says im an idiot for spending that much....
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02-15-2006, 11:44 AM | #12 |
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wrxblubayou,
Most of our map notes contains the following: "Features such as defeated CELs and Closed Loop tables are not changed with Realtime. This is why we highly recommend you running the Stage Base Map that best matches your car's modification. Running the Stock Mode Base Map with a Stage Realtime map over it will get you some of the improvements but no where NEAR what you would get if you were to run the proper Stage Base map. Revised Electronic Throttle Mapping. We did this to improve the throttle response. We changed the delays in how the throttle actually reacted to your right foot in an effort to reduce some of the "drive by wire" feel. Again, you should have no reason why you will want to run the Stock Base map, unless of course you're the type that doesn't like extracting the full potential of your vehicle." We highly recommend that you use the base map that best matches your vehicles hardware because too many improvements are made in the base map to not use it. Take care, Christian. |
02-15-2006, 11:46 AM | #13 | |
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wow thanks.... thats exactly what i just did base: stage 2 93 realtime: stage 2 93 what are you saying? dont do the realtime over the base???????????? |
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02-15-2006, 11:54 AM | #14 |
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anything else i could try? missing anything?
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02-15-2006, 12:06 PM | #15 | |
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i wouldn't. . .i've seen some in the past have problems running the same RT over base. Only time you need to run a real time map is when it's DIFFERENT from your base. |
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02-15-2006, 12:08 PM | #16 | |
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so i guess a reset will fix it then right? |
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02-15-2006, 12:09 PM | #17 | |
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16 is target for stage 2, i'm not sure what you are expecting keep in mind these are very conservative base maps, in order to really get the power out of your map you'll need a custom tune. |
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02-15-2006, 12:11 PM | #18 | |
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02-15-2006, 12:13 PM | #19 | |
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well it just doesnt feel like it pulls any harder. 1-5 feel a LITTLE better but thats it. i guess i just expected too much maybe? from hearing everyone else "stg 2 iz da bomb fast3r"....... i will say its a lot smoother. |
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02-15-2006, 12:18 PM | #20 | |
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With a Pro Tune i went to 235ish.. to maximize ur car a Pro Tune is the way to go, just do all ur mods before because those tuners are expensive!!!! |
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02-15-2006, 12:21 PM | #21 |
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nothing else is needed for a pro tune? just AP and a tuner that does em? (TopSpeed)
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02-15-2006, 12:24 PM | #22 |
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Yup. And the parts that you want tuned for .
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02-15-2006, 01:18 PM | #23 | |
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Take care, Christian. |
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02-15-2006, 01:55 PM | #24 | |
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no problem but i stated that's what i did in the previous post and i was really pissed at the time. thanks for helping. AND now that ive drove around a bit it feels a lot better. seems the biggest gain is at 50 or 60% throttle though. at that throttle position im running almost stock boost (~11psi). any ideas why? normal? and i also notice that if im cruising in fourth or fifth at 2500 rpm or so and go WOT the boost doesnt shoot up like normal. good i guess since before the AP that was causing a boost spike up to .12 or so. all in all i guess a couple more days and ill be happy with it. just for broke ****s like me 600 is a lot to pay for something and like i said i guess i was expecting 800 hp. |
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