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Old 05-07-2009, 10:26 PM   #1
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I will doing my first "High Speed touring" event at our local track on the 30th. I am going to order all my brake upgrades I will need to run out there. But my question is what pads will best fit my needs? I have put a list of what my setup will be come race day. I just need help on what pads to run. Oh and this is my daily driver.

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Im not going out there to set lap records, I just want to be able to go out there and have some fun without worring about brake fad issues. This is my first time and just want to see if I even like it.

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Old 05-07-2009, 10:51 PM   #2
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carbotech
xp 10's in the front
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:09 PM   #3
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Hawk DTC70/60 or bust
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:11 PM   #4
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Carbotechs.

I say that not having used the DTC's. I do know the carbotechs won't eat your rotors and you can drive on them to and from the event. The dust from the carbo's won't corrode your wheels unlike some track pads.
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:16 PM   #5
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First event, I'm thinking 8's up front and either leave the rears alone, or run something cheaper like an HP+...
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:19 PM   #6
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buddy and myself drove to and from VIR with DTC70s. Besides the noise they worked fine lol. Hey had XP12s and doesn't plan to go back.

Even drove 80 miles a day to and from work for two days until I had time to swap my HPS pads back on. I washed my rims off when i swapped the pads back but that is just good maintenance ppl!
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:22 PM   #7
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First event, I'm thinking 8's up front and either leave the rears alone, or run something cheaper like an HP+...
my buddy rain DTC70s up front and rear stockers lol. No fade at all on a stock sti on VIR full.

I ran a 70/60 split because i figured wth
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Old 05-08-2009, 12:23 PM   #8
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You are going to be in group one - and have lots of trains. Full on race pads are not required.

You have an 03 - do you knwo what pad shapes you have on your car. Most have D929/D770 - but not all.

An HP+ is borderline at best - especially on small WRX rotors - but again - in group one I think they aer a decent place to start. XP8's are another low friction pad.

DTC70/60 or XP12/16 - those are high friction track pads. My first guess would be you have not enough tire nor skill to take advantage of them -and they ain't cheap.

HT-10's and new plain rotors is what I would try to sell you I think.
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Old 05-08-2009, 03:51 PM   #9
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I have a friend that has an STI that recommends the Ferodo DS2500's for me. He said they are very similar to the HP+ pads but without the noise. After thinking about it I really dont want much noise if any at all since I will be using these on the street also.

thanks for all the insight guys!,
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Old 05-08-2009, 03:54 PM   #10
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2500 are good - unfortunately they don't make them for the front of your car unless you have 02 front brakes

But they are as noisy as HP+ - less bite - higher temp range.

They are a good newb pad
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DS2500's can't take a lot of heat. I went from DS2500's to PFC-01's and the difference was night and day. PFC-01's can take a lot more heat. They don't take long to get up to operating temp either. Not sure if they make PFC-01's for you brakes though (I had an 05 STi I ran them on).
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Old 05-10-2009, 10:15 AM   #12
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xp 10's in the front
xp 8's in the rear
I like the carbotects with Motul Brake flulid, been using them for track events, it will be one year this August.

Some pics of my 2.5i on the track.

http://http://forums.nasioc.com/foru....php?t=1749323
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Old 05-11-2009, 02:06 AM   #13
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I really dont want much noise if any at all since I will be using these on the street also.

thanks for all the insight guys!,
Josh
I would say change pads when you get to the track. It takes no time at all especially on wrx brakes. It will prob take you longer to jack up the car and put jack stands under it than actually changing the pads.

Since its your first time you wont need too much of an aggressive pad like mentioned, but that's something to look into for the future.
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Old 05-11-2009, 02:24 AM   #14
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Also what kind of tires will you run?
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Old 05-11-2009, 04:22 AM   #15
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I ran the Porterfield R4's and loved them.
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You are going to be in group one - and have lots of trains. Full on race pads are not required.

You have an 03 - do you knwo what pad shapes you have on your car. Most have D929/D770 - but not all.

An HP+ is borderline at best - especially on small WRX rotors - but again - in group one I think they aer a decent place to start. XP8's are another low friction pad.

DTC70/60 or XP12/16 - those are high friction track pads. My first guess would be you have not enough tire nor skill to take advantage of them -and they ain't cheap.

HT-10's and new plain rotors is what I would try to sell you I think.
What he said. You don't need super aggressive track pads your first time out. Especially with street tires. I think the Carbotech XP8 or Hawk HP+ would be a good pad for a first timer.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:29 AM   #17
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Also what kind of tires will you run?
Just my street tires for the first time out. They are a little worn on the inside, but I was told to not buy new tires for my first time out. I was told the track is hard on tires and to just buy some new ones after the my first time out. This track day will be a huge learning experience for me. I just want to not have to limit my time on the track with fadded brakes.

thanks for all the help everyone!,
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hey i am in the same boat as you.
i want to go to my first track day in the middle of june.
i was thinking about going with 2500s for now and some good fluid.
im not sure what tires though. i have a set of brand new nexen n555 and a set of re92s with 25k miles on them. i have heard not to put on new tires your first time out as well.
im not quite sure what i will do
opinions ?
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HP+ is what I run on my racecar with no problems, and im on stock rotors...
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