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03-01-2015, 01:12 PM | #26 |
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I think it is smart from a sales perspective to offer some sort of automatic because now the chassis can appeal to a broader market.
But the CVT sucks. Dual Clutch is superior to a true manual, but at the cost of added weight. Can't really argue that it's too expensive to build since you can get one in a $25,000 GTI and the VAG DSG actually shifts faster than the dual clutch in the Porsche, Ferrari, BMW, GT-R, etc. |
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03-02-2015, 08:29 AM | #33 |
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03-02-2015, 09:54 AM | #35 |
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I think driverless cars are a bigger threat to the WRX rather than manual transmissions being completely phased out.
I see the WRX disappearing due to cars with drivers being made illegal for "safety" and "emissions" purposes before the manual transmission is completely phased out. |
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In any case, having driven some high end DSG's, I'd absolutely pick up one of those in a wrx if it were an option. Performance CVT's probably are the future, they just need some more time to bake. |
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03-02-2015, 12:14 PM | #39 |
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03-02-2015, 12:29 PM | #41 |
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Driverless cars may come, likely will come in all probability. But their use will be severely limited. No world economy has the resources to take on the infrastructure and responsibilities. The world will never progress significantly beyond the present... again, economies dictated. So brace yourself, you CVT unbelievers... get used to it. It's a technology that's too good to be true... yet is. Subaru's Lineartronic, especially the one implemented in the FA20DIT powertrain, is probably the most reliable transmission Subaru has ever put in a car. It provides. And most importantly, owners universally endorse it. Along the way it enables great fuel economies and satisfies the "transmission" equation for the vast bulk of drivers. Guess what all that means. Japan has the FA20DIT/CVT powertrain that were it here would quiet most driver's needs. But even that can and will be exceeded as CVT technology evolves. Aftermarket evidence shows it doesn't take much to improve on the current CVT WRX/FXT... which IMO is one of the primary underlying, quiet, truths that a brand can offer: cheap power, easy to get. Sounds like a WRX to me... CVT or whatever. Personally, after two such drivetrains and two years of experience, it is my opinion that the Subaru Lineartronic is the CVT design that others will emulate... because it is great at what it does, is reliable, and is cheaper to produce and warranty than other options. However, as long as Subaru produces a WRX and STi they would be idiots not to produce manual transmissions. Again IMO, the only major quarrel I have at present is, the 6MT in the WRX (sorry peeps, there goes my opinion again). If the '15 WRX had a 6MT on, or close to, the level of the STi one, with tuning that had no "rev hang." again like the STi, the 2015 WRX would be perfect. Well, excepting some closer resemblance to the Concept WRX , but that should come. Make one like that and I'll make one mine, but until then this CVT WRX satisfies. |
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Totally agree. I am 44. Grew up in South Asia and Europe. Drove my first stick when I was 13. Car had 4MT and no syncros. Owned and drove MTs exclusively until I immigrated to the North American continent. I moved to Canada at age 26 and then to the US at age 32. I thoroughly enjoy driving my STi but I also enjoy driving my wife's BMW 328d, from time to time. My "grass-root" choice for transmission will always be MTs but I will give credit to the convenience and ease that ATs offer.
My dad (who taught me stick), now 74, drives an AT Dodge Caravan, but even today, can jump into an MT car and drive it better than most Regards, Saif. |
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Great another manual vs CVT thread. Because we really needed another one.
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