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11-17-2012, 11:53 PM | #251 |
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11-18-2012, 06:41 AM | #252 |
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Use a 14mm crows foot^^ worked wonders!!
I had put in power steering fluid not even looking at the cap. It takes Dextron ATF. I bought some and disconnected the pressure line underneath and the reservoir line down low. Drained, reconnected the lines and refilled. As I was bleeding I noticed some drips on the ground. After wiping and rebleeding, I find a leak coming from a line I never touch It was leaking from between the line and fitting. I pulled the line off after dropping the crossmember. One of the flares is smashed ??? I thought it was tight, maybe too tight and noticed this when I backed out of the bay. The line Good double flare Smashed flare, see how flat the side edge is instead of having a mm or so side? I talked to my dude at a Subaru dealership that has a few donor cars and he's going to pull one off another Sti for me. I'm picking it up Tuesday. |
11-29-2012, 05:34 PM | #253 |
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For anyone planning on swapping both lines going to the rack.... .
I found that removing the brace that covers the rack allows you to move the lines a bit more to make them easier to access. Especially the return line that has the rubber hose in it. |
11-29-2012, 05:37 PM | #254 |
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Also. There is a a sort of "restrictor" pill in the line. I cut my open just out of curiosity. I have pics for reference if anyone is interested.
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11-29-2012, 09:40 PM | #255 |
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theres pics of it in the first few pages. It doesnt do anything and your fine without one.
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03-01-2013, 05:02 PM | #256 |
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ordered these items per The owner of anplumbing's recommendations for the power steering application.
Part # Qty Price Item Total Brand Specs 9894DBH 1 $6.49 $6.49 Earls Female End: 14mm x 1.5 AN Thread: -6 600006 6 $5.59 $33.54 Earls Any Length: any Hose Size: -6 604706 1 $19.49 $19.49 Earls AN Thread: -6 Hose Size: -6 609006 1 $31.25 $31.25 Earls AN Thread: -6 Hose Size: -6 871406 1 $8.73 $8.73 XRP AN Thread: -6 Metric Thread: 14mm X 1.50 He also stated that the 9894DBH adapter that we are all using is not correct for the application and that it needs to have a 70-45* bevel cut inside in order to accept the flare fitting on the rack side. as it stands you are essentially crushing the flare and hoping it holds the pressure. |
03-01-2013, 07:58 PM | #257 | |
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So there isn't a correct fitting to replace the 9894DBH ??
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03-01-2013, 08:19 PM | #258 |
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No,
He informed me that we should cut off the OEM fitting and braze/weld on a AN based fitting. They offer the weld-on fittings. The other alternative is to machine in a bevel to the 9894DBH this would help mate up to the OEM line. |
03-01-2013, 08:42 PM | #259 |
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There are companies that make them. They are not cheap. See this: http://www.3sx.com/store/comersus_vi...dProduct=30271 The problem with what you're saying jnorth85 is that perhaps your setup is different or maybe I misunderstand, but my rack doesn't have a flare fitting. Instead it relies on a oring to seal on a flat surface inside of the fitting. I can verify this by looking on the inside the factory lines which don't have a flare fitting on them. Here is a picture of the high pressure side on the factory line (sorry for the bad picture, cellphones are poor for shots like these): Here is a picture of the low pressure side on the factory line: Essentially they are both the same but with different diameters. No flare there. Now look at the rack side fittings: See the oring seal? No AN flare fittings on this one. At least on the 06 WRX rack I have. The only modification I would do on these fittings from EARLS is to cut a slight chamfer on the inner diameter of the fitting to resemble the stock fitting and be a bit easier on the oring. That's my plan. But the lines are certainly not a reverse female flare fitting. Last edited by kpluiten; 03-01-2013 at 09:17 PM. |
03-01-2013, 08:54 PM | #260 | |
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You can easily modify the earls fitting |
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03-01-2013, 09:02 PM | #261 |
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See above. There is not need to modify it like you are describing.
EDIT: OK, I think I was just confused on what you said at first. We are saying the same thing, but with different terminology. I hear flare and start thinking you're talking about a 45 or 37 degree internal female flare like the fitting I posted above. :facepalm: You are correct. You are correct, the chamfer is NOT hard to add to the inside to mimic the factory lines and I had already planned on doing that. Apparently you are cool without it though as everyone here has been doing it for years! Maybe they just have slow leaks or always air in the system. Last edited by kpluiten; 03-01-2013 at 09:14 PM. |
03-01-2013, 10:48 PM | #262 | |
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03-15-2013, 01:20 AM | #263 |
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What about re flaring the power steering lines with this tool. It says in the description that this make 37 degree flaring for AN fittings.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-900311/overview/ |
03-15-2013, 11:18 AM | #264 | |
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05-04-2013, 06:42 AM | #265 | ||
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The problem is the little holder bracket can't hold the line unless you put an ungodly amount of torque on the nuts. Otherwise the flare part of the tool just pushes the line through the holder. I had to a big ass adjustable wrench on the nuts to stop it from slipping |
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05-04-2013, 06:52 AM | #266 |
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Can any of these lines (FMS, P&L, Chasebay) be routed like like the stock line but with a little more slack. So it lays on the frame and goes by the PS bottle?
(I looked for install pics but couldn't find anything) |
05-05-2013, 12:36 AM | #267 |
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I made my own like that.
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06-20-2013, 09:47 AM | #268 | |
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Anyone else have this problem? I ask because I am having this happen with my setup. What would be a fix for the foaming and lack of power steering when using these parts? |
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06-20-2013, 12:32 PM | #269 | |
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Male Insert O-ring = MIO Female O Ring = FOR http://refsales.shopnow247.com/index...iewCat&catId=8 They are definately NOT 37 or 45 deg flare fittings. Those are used in the refrigeration industry quite a bit. I just don't know if they are the standard 6,8,10 AN sizing or if FHI uses a metric equivalent. They may also be referred to as BEADLOCK fittings" http://www.acparts.com/Aluminum-Bead...1-c-92636.html Bill Last edited by wgknestrick; 06-20-2013 at 12:38 PM. |
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06-20-2013, 01:47 PM | #270 |
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04-05-2014, 10:56 PM | #271 |
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See this thread ....post #6 for fitting size and thread patterns to make a High Pressure Line with banjo from PS Pump to rack
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...1#post41741247 |
04-28-2014, 04:10 PM | #272 |
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So any thoughts on using a thicker than OEM O-ring?
OEM is 1.5mm tick. Matching O-Ring from HF O-ring set is 1.9mm thick. Will this cause issues? Also, how tight should the metric adapter be? Hand tight + a little love? |
04-28-2014, 04:45 PM | #273 |
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I have a leak from that spot and thought replacement o rings would fix it. I bought a #10 and #11 from the hardware store to replace the factory ones. They may be slightly thicker or it was just how they looked since they had not been compressed.
I tried some slightly thicker o rings and 1 pinched in half. I can't remember what I did with the others. One may have fit or not. Point is they are pretty picky on the size. they need to fit into the flat face on the line side easily (as opposed to the rack side). I'd definitely test fit it. Edit: The other two were a #78 and #83, one pinched through and the other mushroomed out. You can look up a size chart for those o ring numbers, I don't know them off the top of my head. |
04-28-2014, 04:55 PM | #274 |
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The O-rings are really going to depend on the fitment inside the adapter fitting....see the blue fitting in the pics previous. If it pops inside and doesn't wrinkle or fold over, you should be ok. Use a good dab of vaseline on them before threading it altogether.
Torque, thats all up to you. Id say pretty tight as its going to see over 1000psi on the pressure side. The only way to test is thread it all up and then put the car on the ground and with the motor running turn the wheels from bump stop to bump stop. You will have to do this to bleed out any air in the lines anyway. If you have no drops your good to go, if you do, then tighter still. If you feel its tight enough and are unsure about further tightening due to a leak, pull it apart and check the O-rings first. |
04-28-2014, 05:13 PM | #275 |
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Thanks for the info. I did a test fitment but didn't torque the blue adapter down too hard. The HF Oring was fine. So at first it seemed like a good idea, but then I remembered its HF and will be ordering Orings from MCMaster tonight. It's like $10 for 2x100 packs. I'll pay that rather then try to get them replaced with the engine in.
I would guess that they are torqued about 10-15 lbs. That's what they felt like coming off at least. It also looks like the oring gets coned and fills the beveled edge on the adapter. So not too sure what having more material in there would do ... Last edited by Bad Noodle; 04-28-2014 at 08:21 PM. |
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