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03-11-2008, 11:05 PM | #51 | |
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mother hos" wish i could understand all that...
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03-11-2008, 11:10 PM | #52 |
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The reason they told you open source is risky is that they don't tune with it. Otherwise, their answer would have been "yeah, we can work on that with you!" They're in it for the money.
If no one has ever mentioned to you that there's good reasons to tune a car with mods for reliability reasons, you haven't been talking to very knowledgeable people. It is, however, entirely possibly that they're simply ignorant of modern developments. MAP-based Imprezas (02-04 and most of the older ones) didn't require tuning for an intake considering that they're MAP-based. With a MAF-based Impreza (05-07), changing the intake tract is A LOT more risky. Every change you make has the possibility of making the MAF sensor voltage to mass airflow relationship change drastically. If it changes in a way that just makes it go richer, you're probably just leaving HP on the table. However, if it makes the car run lean, you're risking your engine. Now, the stock tune does have quite a bit of headroom for the MAF scaling getting messed up. The stock tune runs the car down to about 9.7:1. Even if you lean that out 3 points, you're probably not going to blow up. However, if your car is already running towards the lean side of the spectrum and then you toss a part that runs leaner, well... you get the idea. |
03-11-2008, 11:56 PM | #53 |
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Well ill lookin to that man. I'm open to new things. I just never heard anything about the 05+ need tunning. Ill ask them and see what they say. I just don't wanna spent a lot of money =(
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03-12-2008, 11:15 AM | #54 |
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Dear watchunglava,
You have received a warning at NASIOC. Reason: ------- Being a Tool Ok man, time to relax. This post wasn't needed, along with some other people's in the thread. I think its funny how you like to call people tools sanji, over a computer. while trying to be all rightious. ill smack you if you call me another name . now im warning you!!!!! |
03-12-2008, 11:20 AM | #55 |
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03-12-2008, 01:54 PM | #56 |
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Statement retracted due to asshattery.
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03-12-2008, 02:33 PM | #57 |
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before i get kicked off the site let me just say I'm Master Tuned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks master
i reflashed with masters map because honestly i had really similar mods . the car feels awsome , it needs to be tweeked. but not like its bad or anything. no knock what so ever, there was 1 point were the ecu advanced the timing like 1 degree , so it looks like only better thngs to come. too bad masters not around im sure he'd be all about tweeking it. after installing my intake i had lost engine braking. ive had this explained as being a loss of torque. i didnt have the time to learn everything about tuning before i flashed.i had to take a chance , it was either ruin my engine because of the intake or reflash with masters map. i did check with a tuner friend in alabama who said i should not have insane problems and also told me to flash the last map of the series because it would be the one that had most everything worked out. im logging everytime i drive and my friend is supposed to tweek it while im learning , because seriously im not touching anything until i know what everything does. this map is awsome though and i have no maf voltage spikes from my intake at all even without the snorkus or airbox. anyone want to see my first log? the car now feels stock as far as engine breaking goes if not accually more extreme!!!!!! this engine is compressing some air !!!!! like i said it definatly needs to be tweeked. i can just feel it when im driving. but over all it seems like a solid base map for my set up , and now that my engine is now running closer to how it should i need to learn so much . ill attach the first log i ran. i went up the road and back just to have some log data to study after flashing . ohh i cant add attatchments if anyone wants to check out the logs message me ill send em to you Last edited by watchunglava; 03-12-2008 at 02:45 PM. |
03-12-2008, 04:25 PM | #58 |
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well sorry i dont know you, or your "super funny humor". next time ill be on top of it! ....riiight
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03-12-2008, 04:29 PM | #59 |
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This thread makes baby jesus cry.
But he'll be happy to see that Master's ROMs are being collected HERE. However, we're having trouble finding the NA tunes we know he did. If anyone had an NA car tuned by Master (including the OP of this thread), could you please get me the ROM plus a description of your cars mods, ROM ID, what you tuned for, etc? |
03-12-2008, 06:11 PM | #60 |
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Thats pretty badass thats his girl has time in her grieving to think... "oh hey, i bet those subaru guys want this info off his PC to tune their cars with..."
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03-12-2008, 09:50 PM | #61 | |
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03-13-2008, 12:48 AM | #62 |
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watchunglava - you are on super thin ice.
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03-13-2008, 01:26 AM | #63 |
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are you kidding me
are you guys kidding around with me ?so its cool for moderators to just be like insulting people and stuff? cause this guy callin me a tool is just uncalled for .
i mean if you want to kick me off your site then do it , i dont know what your problem is with me subie gal , but ever since ive had any contact with you , even in different forums you have not been very cordial with me. you in fact constantly give people like really false information , its painful to watch in fact.i guess you need to make your boss money at the dealer or something. but in saying that you give alot of good advise as well. i just wish you would stop being so self ricious . im sure youll get all like angry or something because ohh no im challenging you or something .But to the contrary i am just engaging in a discourse about your campain against my character. i see how it is though ,your buddies can stoop to name calling to insult me but when i stand up for myself i am now on thin ice? and recieved 8 points? listen everyone doesnt live in oregon ok, so most people arent like so toucy feely. i can tell that you are a little toucy feely so whats up ? seriously this is major b.s. so either kick me off or stop bustin my balls. i didnt do anything wrong . |
03-13-2008, 01:34 AM | #64 |
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watch, shut up and do your teenage drama queen bull**** in OT where it belongs. It has no place in this thread.
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03-13-2008, 02:47 AM | #65 |
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^ goes and microwaves a bag of popcorn for the finale.
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03-13-2008, 02:48 PM | #66 |
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ohhhh
this gonna be good subiegall where are youuu *grabs some popcorn* |
03-13-2008, 03:22 PM | #67 |
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03-13-2008, 03:45 PM | #68 | |
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Back to the topic in the thread, does anyone know if the '07 2.5i maps are the same as the '06 2.5i ones? |
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03-13-2008, 03:47 PM | #69 |
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O wait, its long past that point |
03-13-2008, 03:48 PM | #70 |
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No, there were some changes. As a safety percaution, everyone should always pull their own ROM from their own car and then modify that (even if you're just mimicking what someone else did to their ROM), rather than downloading someone else's ROM and flashing it in.
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03-13-2008, 03:49 PM | #71 | |
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03-13-2008, 04:16 PM | #72 |
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Wow at the drama and the info on tuning for N/A. Might have to steal my gf's car for a weekend and let my tuner take a look lol. Crap, I hope she doesn't see this.
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09-10-2008, 05:12 PM | #73 | |
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09-10-2008, 08:20 PM | #74 |
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Actually, yeah. I've just been starting to really examine the stock map in the last few weeks, and would LOVE the map which used to be available at the beginning of this thread.
Anybody have a copy of it? I'd like to see how things were changed. On a side note: Why does the stock map appear to be WOT, depending on the conditions, with as little as 35% on the TPS? |
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The original Link to get the maps is coming up unavailable to me. Is there a different link I can get them from?
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