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02-05-2010, 12:43 PM | #1 | |
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Report: Next-gen Chevrolet Camaro to ride on Alpha platform, shrink in size
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02-05-2010, 01:08 PM | #2 |
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Smaller and lighter is not bad news, though it's interesting they will (may) abandon the V8 when the Mustang just moved back up to a 5.0. Hopefully they'll address the utter lack of useful visability inside the cabin.
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02-05-2010, 01:11 PM | #3 |
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Oh the hillbillies will be angry with this one...
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02-05-2010, 01:18 PM | #4 |
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I wonder how long it will take the masses to realize that similar fuel economy can be obtained using an 8. *Points to Corvette*
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02-05-2010, 01:27 PM | #5 | |
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A 600lb lighter curb weight would definitely give it better mileage assuming similar fuel consumption between the two engines. That's probably why the Vette gets better mileage, not necessarily the motor. If they decreased the curb weight of the next gen Camaro and gave it the TT V6, it'll get decent gas mileage. |
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02-05-2010, 01:31 PM | #6 |
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This! I've had this nasty car twice now as a rental, I hate it. Next time it gets assigned to me, I'm turning it in. I was more happy with my recent Nissan Versa rental than the camaro.
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02-05-2010, 02:12 PM | #7 |
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I actually have a hard time beleiving the no V8 portion.
If this was true, then why keep the Camaro name. Will it sell like this? |
02-05-2010, 02:19 PM | #8 |
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02-05-2010, 02:22 PM | #9 |
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02-05-2010, 02:32 PM | #10 | |
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02-05-2010, 02:48 PM | #11 |
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I can't imagine Chevy ditching the V8 for the next camero. It's is part of the Camero nameplate. They should at least offer it on a high performance model. If not, ditch the name and start a new model.
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02-05-2010, 02:49 PM | #12 |
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Only reason for this that I can see is if they are going to make the car lighter and smaller, the V8's heft would put too much weight over the front wheels making a horrible weight distribution ratio. It's not like a vette where since it's only a 2 seater they can make a long hood and place the motor's main weight behind the front axle.
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02-05-2010, 02:52 PM | #13 | |
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02-05-2010, 02:56 PM | #14 | |
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Regarding the V8 engine, maybe Chevy could take a hint from Ford and decrease the displacement of their engine while increasing specific output at the same time. Why displace 6.2L to only make 426HP? All this extra displacement is just contributing to pumping losses. Going back to a 5.7L or 5.2L and making the same 426HP out of it would already be an improvement. |
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02-05-2010, 02:59 PM | #15 |
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my guess is if they do this, Ford will need to ramp up production of the 2013 Mustang 5.0
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02-05-2010, 03:06 PM | #16 | |
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If they are going to shrink the platform and cut the wheel base by a whole foot. Then why not bring back the Vega, cutting the V8 out of the Camaro isn't the answer. Last edited by Wrxtuner251; 02-05-2010 at 03:11 PM. |
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02-05-2010, 03:09 PM | #17 | |
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02-05-2010, 03:13 PM | #18 | |
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02-05-2010, 03:38 PM | #19 |
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downsize in weight = good
downsizing 2 cylinder = meh i doubt they will make a v6 that come close to the godly LSx |
02-05-2010, 03:38 PM | #20 | |
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02-05-2010, 04:30 PM | #21 |
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An auto Vette gets 18 mpg combined. That's not particularly impressive for a small, relatively light car with rather long gearing. GTRs and 911 Turbos get 18 mpg combined too, despite the added power, weight and AWD.
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02-05-2010, 05:53 PM | #22 |
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This is all speculation, and this may be in part to the possibility of the Z28 coming out and still having the V8, I love the camaro. If they get the weight down and don't compromise the feel of the car I'd still be a fan.
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02-05-2010, 07:49 PM | #23 | |
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The point I was trying to make is that no matter how many cylinders, or what size engine, it still requires the same amount of power to haul the same weight and body (power requirement to overcome drag) regardless of engine size, i.e. a V8 can make as few ponies and burn as little fuel as a 4 cylinder that is working at a greater percentage of it's total output. V8's in general have greater frictional losses than smaller engines as there are more moving parts in them, but they work much less hard. The Corvette for example lopes around at 1100-1200 all day at 60 and uses very little fuel considering its max output, a V6 would spin closer to 2100 and a 4 banger closer to 2700. I love the idea of turbocharged engines, but, we have to remember that the when not in use, those turbos do make the engine work harder due to increased back pressure. Then, when they are summoned they use just as much fuel, if not more, than a larger NA engine due to power requirements. |
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02-05-2010, 07:57 PM | #24 | |
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Sure, those guys are getting 30 mpg, but that's a highway cruise in sixth gear(overdrive) at 60 mph and they're certainly not driving the car hard. |
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