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Old 10-13-2013, 09:04 PM   #251
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Remember when Toyota started replacing frames on Tacomas and Tundras? They were out of warranty. Would you tell someone that it is tough **** that their truck is out of warranty, and swap the frame themselves? No.. it is called customer service and being an upstanding company to stand behind your product.
Actually Toyota recalled those. The 96-00 Tacomas got the frame sprayed w/ anti-corrosion material if it was ok. Those that were not, were bought back. The Tundra's received the same recall as did the Sequoia, but no buyback program. There are still about 2 or 3 recalls out for the Tundra's and Sequoia's(SSC- BXD,C0D,D0D) for that. However, the recall can not be performed because the chemicals used for the spray are not working. So they now have put a recall on the recall.

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Funny, it is Sunday, and just found the issue. Haven't contacted anyone about this yet, but I'm letting this go?

Troll on man...
Read my post again and do it slowly, then try and comprehend it a little.

Funny, I never mentioned anything about when you found it and you ignoring it. I mentioned about fixing it first because it is a safety issue and then seek compensation and not waiting for SOA to decided a few weeks or months later to goodwill it, as people have waited quite a bit of time and you mentioned it is a safety concern.
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Old 10-13-2013, 09:05 PM   #252
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Once again, you don't read. I found the problem today, roughly 3pm this afternoon. The past 5 hours, I'm suppose to magically find someone to fix it or fix it myself?

Whatever man. The car is parked, and she will be driving something else until it is resolved. You make it seem that I've know about this for months and risking her life, but it has been a matter of hours. Try reading before commenting. It might not make you look like such a jackass.

I'm not on this thread to follow some lawsuit to get money. I'm on this thread because it was the largest thread for the issue that was relevant. I'm sharing my experiences to show that there is a problem, and hopefully prevent someone from getting seriously injured by alerting others of the issue.

I'm glad you could fix the issue in 2 hours. I suppose this is your job, which you should be proficient at. Did I say I couldn't fix the issue? Nope.. failure to read. Pursuing the proper channels, and if they deny me, no big deal, I'll fix it myself.
Shouldn't be hard for a guy with 15 years home garage skillz. Do they have some sort of garage mechanics union that you could borrow a welder? Could have been fixed by now. I like that you tried to make it sound like you were in the business then turned your own comment against yourself. Good luck getting it fixed. I know that our guy is approving them if they are broken so maybe your guy will. If not it's not a difficult job at all. Someone with your experience should be able to do it no problem. If not maybe you could start working at the dealer with the experience you have and get it done for free.
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Old 10-13-2013, 09:12 PM   #253
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Don't suppose we could just get Supraru banned from this thread?

I can't remember the last post of his in here that was productive.

Perhaps the real question is, why are you so butthurt over people wanting Subaru to fix an obvious manufacturer design flaw that has real safety concerns?
You have this same reaction to the people with the fuel line issue that took Subaru years to own up about and resolve?
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Old 10-13-2013, 09:18 PM   #254
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Don't suppose we could just get Supraru banned from this thread?

I can't remember the last post of his in here that was productive.

Perhaps the real question is, why are you so butthurt over people wanting Subaru to fix an obvious manufacturer design flaw that has real safety concerns?
You have this same reaction to the people with the fuel line issue that took Subaru years to own up about and resolve?
Is it my fault that people try to argue with me when I say if you're not in warranty don't expect it? I don't really care if it's a safety issue or not. If it bothers you pay to get it fixed or do it yourself. If Subaru ever makes it a recall then you can be compensated for the money spent on it. Otherwise stop complaining. Life goes on.
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@ Supraru, hop off and go do something better with your life than criticize and start arguments with strangers over the internet .
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Old 10-13-2013, 11:38 PM   #256
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Supra: not trying to attack you, but I don't see why you are attacking the guy for the intake manifold gaskets. They were leaking and the car was out of warranty, so he fixed it himself. Yet you are bringing it up like he did something wrong?

Also... you seem to know quite a bit. But, you don't seem to realize that a flex plate is used on an automatic transmission, and a flywheel is used for an automatic transmission. Sorry, but you are full of **** if you are trying to pass yourself off as someone who knows something about cars. FLEX PLATE VS FLYWHEEL are two different things. IF YOU CANNOT distinguish between the two, then you cannot expect me to believe tnat you know the difference between a flex plate "squeek" and a firewall flex. Actually, how would a flex plate "squeek" on an automatic and how would a FLYWHEEL squeek?

Wait... don't bother to answer those questions... I have no time for wannabes. You don't even know the difference between the two to begin with, chump.

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Old 10-13-2013, 11:44 PM   #257
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It's not really difficult to understand. If you're out of warranty then you have to pay for it. It's not rocket science. Not sure where you've been but I know subaru hasn't been turning a blind eye to it. I've seen plenty done both under warranty and out of warranty. Maybe people getting denied has to do with people attitudes/excessive mods on the vehicle. Not to mention the fact that 3/4 of the people in this thread can't distinguish the difference between a flex plate squeak and a cracked fire wall.

In drunkguy's (gee what a fitting name) case he is out of warranty. He claims he's a veteran tech. He didn't like his gasket not getting covered so he did it himself. His excuse is the gaskets were cheap and it only took a couple hours. Not sure how long he thinks pulling a dash takes. And there isn't any parts you have to buy, just borrow a friends welder which shouldn't be hard for a 15 year tech.
http://www.ehow.com/facts_7557163_fl...te-engine.html

figure I find the easiest way for you to know what a flex plate is. You're welcome. Enjoy. Don't bother trying to rebuttal, because you have no credibility with me. Oh.. and IF you are a technician, or trying to be one.. well, I think you should consider doing something else.
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Supra: not trying to attack you, but I don't see why you are attacking the guy for the intake manifold gaskets. They were leaking and the car was out of warranty, so he fixed it himself. Yet you are bringing it up like he did something wrong? Also... you seem to know quite a bit. But, you don't seem to realize that a flex plate is used on an automatic transmission, and a flywheel is used for an automatic transmission. Sorry, but you are full of **** if you are trying to pass yourself off as someone who knows something about cars. FLEX PLATE VS FLYWHEEL are two different things. IF YOU CANNOT distinguish between the two, then you cannot expect me to believe tnat you know the difference between a flex plate "squeek" and a firewall flex. Actually, how would a flex plate "squeek" on an automatic and how would a FLYWHEEL squeek? Wait... don't bother to answer those questions... I have no time for wannabes. You don't even know the difference between the two to begin with, chump.
This^^^^ lololol yesssss
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Old 10-14-2013, 05:58 AM   #259
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Also... you seem to know quite a bit. But, you don't seem to realize that a flex plate is used on an automatic transmission, and a flywheel is used for an automatic transmission. Sorry, but you are full of **** if you are trying to pass yourself off as someone who knows something about cars. FLEX PLATE VS FLYWHEEL are two different things.


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Supra: not trying to attack you, but I don't see why you are attacking the guy for the intake manifold gaskets. They were leaking and the car was out of warranty, so he fixed it himself. Yet you are bringing it up like he did something wrong?

Also... you seem to know quite a bit. But, you don't seem to realize that a flex plate is used on an automatic transmission, and a flywheel is used for an automatic transmission. Sorry, but you are full of **** if you are trying to pass yourself off as someone who knows something about cars. FLEX PLATE VS FLYWHEEL are two different things. IF YOU CANNOT distinguish between the two, then you cannot expect me to believe tnat you know the difference between a flex plate "squeek" and a firewall flex. Actually, how would a flex plate "squeek" on an automatic and how would a FLYWHEEL squeek?

Wait... don't bother to answer those questions... I have no time for wannabes. You don't even know the difference between the two to begin with, chump.
You know I felt you were attacking me but the. I retread the first line where you said you aren't trying to attack me and your attack is totally ok now because of your disclaimer. If you read correctly my question to him when he tried to pass off that he was a technician was why not just fix it when he had.

Second to deal with your wasted breath. I meant to say pressure plate not flex plate. It's rare that we deal with manual trans problems compared to auto's and typing fast my mind was in the wrong box. There's my excuse, so what's your excuse for not knowing how to spell squeak? Spell check broken?

That was a nice attempt at an attack and I appropriate your effort, oh wait it wasn't an attack, I forgot already about your disclaimer!
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figure I find the easiest way for you to know what a flex plate is. You're welcome. Enjoy. Don't bother trying to rebuttal, because you have no credibility with me. Oh.. and IF you are a technician, or trying to be one.. well, I think you should consider doing something else.
If you can't spell just use spell check. If that doesn't help and you're not sure you can try this.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/_/d...=1&word=squeak

I was going to start looking up posts of yours to actually see if you are an intelligent person but I stopped at you trying to figure out if then engine in an sti was an sti engine or not. Good day sir, try to pay attention in English class today pumpkin.
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You know, I really hate when we have post that are pure attack and not relevant to the topic. Seriously? And this is to all involved in the last 8 or so postings. As I recently shared with my brother...you better be damned sure all if your spelling and grammar is correct if you are going to comment on someone else's on the interwebs. Kind of makes you look foolish if you don't. Now, can we knock it off and stay on-topic?
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Interesting
He was in attack mode. It happens. Lol
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:12 AM   #264
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Well when someone says something like this. ^^^^^^



And some drunk guy responds with this in reference to what I said anyone who's been in the business would equate time working as a mechanic for a profession as "turning wrenches". Therefore your statement to me was you have been in the business for 15 years so you know how warranty claims work since my question was if they explained to you when your car is covered under warranty or not. That is how I took it anyway. The fact that you tried say that you know how warranty work is dealt with because you've been recreationally turning wrenches in your garage makes your statement a little silly.



Considering I could fix your car in aprox. two hours and you can't does that make me an idiot or you? Does the fact that you complain it's a big safety issue and you haven't paid to get get it fixed or fix it yourself says a lot about your character. Wife have a good life insurance policy? Crossing your fingers?

Not sure how I haven't been helpful. I stated my dealer has covered the weld under warranty even if it's out. I also stated 3/4 of the people here couldn't tell the difference between a clutch squeak and a firewall squeak. I think it's hilarious when all the kids (and I guess you're old?) come in all pissed off blaming everything on subaru. I originally started in here because I thought it was funny the original poster is trying to get things rolling to get a kick back from lawyers and still deny's it.
Trolls are going to troll....And I'm not getting a kickback from the lawyers. I'm the one of the five that filed the suit because no one else would. I told you before, I'm not in it for the money. You can "bank" on that. Speaking of bank, I'm sure SUPARU is just a disgruntled teller at some bank in Collegeville, PA. Although he says things like "our dealer," a statement that implies ownership means that he wishes he worked for Welsh Subaru of Limerick. I'm probably wrong in my thinking that he's a teller though and more likely the security guard who stands in the bank who works for Top Flight Security....



Just food for thought...
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I actually have sometimes heard a squeek on my wife's 08 FXT. Today I'll take a look and see if it is the same issue everyone is having on the impreza. If the weld is the issue, then I'll have to get in touch with Supraru so he can fix it for me.
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:23 AM   #266
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Is it my fault that people try to argue with me when I say if you're not in warranty don't expect it? I don't really care if it's a safety issue or not. If it bothers you pay to get it fixed or do it yourself. If Subaru ever makes it a recall then you can be compensated for the money spent on it. Otherwise stop complaining. Life goes on.
I don't have a dog in this fight, since I don't own a newer WRX. But this attitude is pretty annoying. I'm not sure why you feel it necessary to go to such great lengths to support SOA's extremely poor handling of this issue.

Warranty or not, the firewall on a car should never fail under normal use, period. If it has had so much reinforcement removed that normal use of the clutch flexes it to the point of failure in the normal expected lifetime of the car, it's a design defect, plain and simple. People shouldn't have to pay over $1000 to repair the firewall to keep their car driveable just because it doesn't happen to fail until after 36,000 miles. We're not talking about some expected wear issue, like clutches wearing out or shocks. This is a structural failure of the body structure. That just shouldn't happen, ever, unless the entire body rusts apart. And there's no way on earth it should happen at well under 100,000 miles.

Plenty of other manufacturers cover design defects outside of the normal warranty. It shouldn't take a NHTSA investigation or a class-action lawsuit to make SOA admit that there's a latent defect in manual transmission WRX's and fix it on their nickel.
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... I retread the first line...

...There's my excuse, so what's your excuse for not knowing how to spell squeak? Spell check broken?
How about you do something useful and go spend your time in threads that actually concern you.


Knotsure. I'm right there with you, if the one useless instigator didn't post in this thread, there wouldn't be any issue.

Subaru needs to issue a recall and fix this problem regardless of the vehicle still being in warranty.
Even if this is a significantly cheaper issue to fix by yourself then other issue they are trying to ignore with the bearings in the early '09 wrx's.
But I'm sure Supraru will just tell me that I should shutup and fix it myself when their manufacturing defect causes my motor to need to be replaced costing me $6000+ because I'm 2000 miles out of warranty...
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Trolls are going to troll....And I'm not getting a kickback from the lawyers. I'm the one of the five that filed the suit because no one else would. I told you before, I'm not in it for the money. You can "bank" on that. Speaking of bank, I'm sure SUPARU is just a disgruntled teller at some bank in Collegeville, PA. Although he says things like "our dealer," a statement that implies ownership means that he wishes he worked for Welsh Subaru of Limerick. I'm probably wrong in my thinking that he's a teller though and more likely the security guard who stands in the bank who works for Top Flight Security....



Just food for thought...
Yes I worked as a teller manager in 2002 when I made this profile. I also don't own my Rs anymore so you can see how often I update my profile. That is cute though in googling the closest dealer to collegeville. Maybe you are the lawer soaking up then money instead of the guy getting the cut. I did however use to take my car to welsh for warranty work since it was down the street. It is nice that you started two threads trying to get class action suits started....no you're not getting a cut at all.you can say it till you're blue in the face. If you're not the lawer or getting a cut then you've got to be the dumbest person ever organizing the thread for the actual lawer. Actually we could easily solve it with your name. We'll at least know if you are the lawer or not.
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I don't have a dog in this fight, since I don't own a newer WRX. But this attitude is pretty annoying. I'm not sure why you feel it necessary to go to such great lengths to support SOA's extremely poor handling of this issue.

Warranty or not, the firewall on a car should never fail under normal use, period. If it has had so much reinforcement removed that normal use of the clutch flexes it to the point of failure in the normal expected lifetime of the car, it's a design defect, plain and simple. People shouldn't have to pay over $1000 to repair the firewall to keep their car driveable just because it doesn't happen to fail until after 36,000 miles. We're not talking about some expected wear issue, like clutches wearing out or shocks. This is a structural failure of the body structure. That just shouldn't happen, ever, unless the entire body rusts apart. And there's no way on earth it should happen at well under 100,000 miles.

Plenty of other manufacturers cover design defects outside of the normal warranty. It shouldn't take a NHTSA investigation or a class-action lawsuit to make SOA admit that there's a latent defect in manual transmission WRX's and fix it on their nickel.
So until that happens you hope that they cover it, if not fix it yourself or pay to have it done. Complaining about it until they do release something isn't going to keep these people worried about safety safe.
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Lol... u mistook a flex plate from a pressure plate and your best comeback is to attack me with a spell check?! Wow.... awesome man. Squeek vs squeak...that's YOUR BEST COMEBACK?!?!

Lets see... do you mistake a dead pedal from a clutch pedal?

Poor supraru.... all sad that he can't tell the difference between a car with a manual and automatic transmission... boo hoo hoo.

Btw... a car with an automatic trans has TWO PEDALS... a car with a STANDARD (AKA: MANUAL TRANS) has THREE pedals. In an automatic transmission vehicle, the brake pedal is horizontal and is wider than the gas pedal. JUST IN CASE if you end up diagnosing a FLEX PLATE SQUEEK (I will spell it with an extra E just for you). Obviously, UNLIKE YOU, I do not NEED a spellchecker.. but hey, check the recent posts and you will see someone else using SQUEEK.

Do you... "BORROW" your friends WD40 and squirt it around the starter as it engages the teeth of the FLEX PLATE??

I am curious.. just what are your credentials? I SURE HOPE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AUTO INDUSTRY. Oh wait.. you are a teller?!?! Thats all that you are?!! You sit and count other people's money?? You have NO involvement in the auto industry but say things like you "have seen" many claims and "our dealer.."?!?! Wow... so are you a teller or just a mall cop? Maybe you work at a food court and you consider working the till as being a teller of sorts?

You have been to a dealership to fix your car, but you come on here telling drunkguy to just rip out his dash and borrow a friend's welder to fix the firewall. YET YOU, cannot even fix your own car! Oh wait... thats because you cannot even tell the difference between an auto and a standard trans.

Keep eating the crumbs off my plate, you don't deserve to be in any technical discussion.

OH.. and are you going to get on me for using btw vs BY THE WAY?

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Trollllololololol ... These posts are making my workday so much better.
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Acura tl.
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Lol... u mistook a flex plate from a pressure plate and your best comeback is to attack me with a spell check?! Wow.... awesome man. Squeek vs squeak...that's YOUR BEST COMEBACK?!?!

Lets see... do you mistake a dead pedal from a clutch pedal?

Poor supraru.... all sad that he can't tell the difference between a car with a manual and automatic transmission... boo hoo hoo.

Btw... a car with an automatic trans has TWO PEDALS... a car with a STANDARD (AKA: MANUAL TRANS) has THREE pedals. In an automatic transmission vehicle, the brake pedal is horizontal and is wider than the gas pedal. JUST IN CASE if you end up diagnosing a FLEX PLATE SQUEEK (I will spell it with an extra E just for you). Obviously, UNLIKE YOU, I do not NEED a spellchecker.. but hey, check the recent posts and you will see someone else using SQUEEK.

Do you... "BORROW" your friends WD40 and squirt it around the starter as it engages the teeth of the FLEX PLATE??

I am curious.. just what are your credentials? I SURE HOPE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AUTO INDUSTRY. Oh wait.. you are a teller?!?! Thats all that you are?!! You sit and count other people's money?? You have NO involvement in the auto industry but say things like you "have seen" many claims and "our dealer.."?!?! Wow... so are you a teller or just a mall cop? Maybe you work at a food court and you consider working the till as being a teller of sorts?

You have been to a dealership to fix your car, but you come on here telling drunkguy to just rip out his dash and borrow a friend's welder to fix the firewall. YET YOU, cannot even fix your own car! Oh wait... thats because you cannot even tell the difference between an auto and a standard trans.

Keep eating the crumbs off my plate, you don't deserve to be in any technical discussion.

OH.. and are you going to get on me for using btw vs BY THE WAY?
Wow, good job! I guess you can't read. I was a teller in 2002. I am a Subaru technician. I'd run circles around you kid. Not go figure out how to tell if a car has an sti block in it or not.
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I don't think a few people understand the full extent/severity of this issue.. and it's because these people either don't have these models that are affected or just don't understand logic. This is an issue that will eventually happen to EVERY 2008+ WRX/IMPREZA/STI. It will creep up on you and will creep up fast. I would classify this issue one step below what's been happening with Jeep and the exploding gas tanks with rear collisions. Please don't feed the trolls in this thread. They're hungry and will ruin your day. Back on topic.
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