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10-14-2013, 01:43 PM | #276 | |
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And I did organize this thread because of the widespread issues many Subaru owners, including myself, have been facing regarding dealerships denying fixing a manufacturing issue. BTW, do you think a lawyer would even look at this case if they didn't see that there was a huge issue with this? Why is it that there are now multiple firms across the country that are on board with this and it's already been filed as a class action in CA? Hmmmm.... Also, I hate to say it but you lost credibility trolling in a Subaru community when you don't even own a Subaru anymore. Last time I checked NASIOC stands for North American Subaru Impreza OWNERS Club....just saying....
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10-14-2013, 02:06 PM | #277 |
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Guys just ignore Supraru. He's simply trying to get this thread sidetracked and locked as he's one of those extreme fanboys that doesn't want his favourite company put in a bad light. If nobody responds to his posts his attempts are rendered useless but if you continue to respond he wins even if we all know that he's trolling here. Mods won't do a thing about it as he's a longtime poster and mods give those guys lots of rope so just ignore him.
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10-14-2013, 07:17 PM | #278 |
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Not taking sides, but that has got to be the dumbest comment I have read over the years on these forums. Yeah I got rid of my car so I am just going to stop posting and delete my account because I do not own a car that is the name of a forum
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10-14-2013, 07:32 PM | #279 | |
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Btw, it's "NOW go figure out...", not "NOT go figure out..". Seems like you are the one lacking the education, KID. That's twice I have burned you and you still can't get me. Dumbass OK, I am done with you now. Please don't go and commit suicide over this. Let's stop getting sidetracked guys. |
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You sound like a little bitch that needs attention. Dude seriously get a life. Last edited by 04furesterXT; 10-14-2013 at 08:08 PM. |
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10-14-2013, 08:07 PM | #281 |
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Yeah---that's why I was suggesting contacting Subaru if you are having the prob. Or, I'm sure a dealer can contact someone for you?
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10-14-2013, 08:09 PM | #282 |
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I'd open a file with Subaru first to avoid the dealer jerking you off.
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10-14-2013, 08:34 PM | #283 |
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^^I so want to play around (in a good natured way) with what you wrote, but considering my earlier rant...I'll stay on topic. If anyone does take these steps, maybe let us all know how it goes?
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10-14-2013, 08:38 PM | #284 |
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It went fine but seeing as I posted it a few times already it's obviously futile. Maybe Suparu knows something...
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10-14-2013, 11:29 PM | #285 | |
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Others (they know who they are) attempt to get this thread off course. The fact remains that a faulty design is resulting in the fracture between the firewall and clutch/brake pedal assembly brace. Denial of fault, both in factory and modded cars alike, by Subaru is unacceptable. As Bicyclewreck stated before, everyone needs to file a complaint with the NHSB website to help force a recall. Unfortunately, after that failed to yield a response this suit was the ultimate reaction. I personally had the ability to remove my dash twice and form a permanent fix to the issue where as others may not have the time, money and/or resources to fix this issue; one issue that could have potentially detoured them from purchasing the car in the first place. After all, how many people would buy a car if they knew that part of the firewall would fail due to cost cutting and weight reduction. Doesn't safety matter any more? |
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10-15-2013, 07:29 AM | #286 | |
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I just don't believe you're not getting a kick back. I would try to do that too since the lawers are the only people who make bank in something like this. I lost my credibility? I owned my Rs for 12 years....yeah it's totally gone. You don't even have a clue what I-club was I'm sure. Not to mention I work on and fix then every day. Last edited by Supraru; 10-15-2013 at 09:28 AM. |
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10-15-2013, 07:50 AM | #287 | |
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10-15-2013, 10:29 AM | #288 |
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Anyone else think we should be wary/concerned that the two guys that work at Subaru dealerships are trying to knock this down?
Last time I tried to bring up one of these known issues with the service department at my local Subaru dealership, they tried to act like they've never heard of it, know nothing about it, haven't serviced any vehicles with that problem and then started asking me if I heard about it on an internet forum to which they then tried to discredit it even farther. Then a couple techs wonder why people are thinking about bringing forward a lawsuit. I don't know, maybe think about the situation as a whole without helping the CYA of the parent company... |
10-15-2013, 10:44 AM | #289 |
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Actually - I honestly think that some dealers may not hear of things and maybe not even SOA---
Once something is out of warranty, how would they know unless people call them? And dealers? We're a group sharing info on-line with a more global perspective. Some dealers may have never seen one of these failures... |
10-15-2013, 12:02 PM | #290 | |
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10-15-2013, 12:08 PM | #291 | |
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In this case, again, there is likely to be little to no monetary payout. The primary relief that the class is seeking is an equitable remedy called an injunction. They are looking for a judge to issue an order forcing Subaru to recall/repair/extend the warranties on the vehicles that are out there. Anyone who does get ANY money out of this (other than the attorneys of course) will have to prove to the Court/Subaru/whoever holds the purse strings on the settlement that they had out of pocket costs based directly on the firewall issue. If there were to happen it is also likely that the NTSA and their various affiliates will be keeping an eye on the 2015 Impreza/WRX/STI for issues with chassis rigidity and construction, although I doubt Subaru will make the same mistake again on an all new design. Even if they do change the design for the 2015s the design change isn't something that can be used as evidence of an issue with the prior design though. |
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10-15-2013, 12:13 PM | #292 |
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10-15-2013, 12:14 PM | #293 | |
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10-15-2013, 12:27 PM | #294 | |
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Here is an interesting read about how often complaints lodged against attorneys actually result in sanctions or discipline: http://www.iardc.org/annualreport2011.pdf |
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10-15-2013, 12:34 PM | #295 | |
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10-15-2013, 12:48 PM | #296 | |
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10-15-2013, 12:54 PM | #297 | |
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You saying "it's called real life dude" is worth as much to anyone who knows that they are talking about as me, or anyone else who doesn't work for Subaru, instructing you on Subaru's internal warranty practice. Something you have take great offense to in the past. From the eyes someone who has no dog in this fight (other than to try and dispel common negative myths about attorneys), and is waiting for the 2015s to come out to make another purchase, the OP is doing a great thing for the community. EVEN IF HE DID GET A HUGE KICKBACK (which he wont). He is helping people who were sold a sub-standard, under-engineered, and arguably unsafe vehicle to get what they paid for. The best analogy here that I can think of is this: You got a hip replacement that started releasing toxic metal shavings in your body 5 years later after the surgery. The doctor (dealership) says sorry, it's not our problem, we just sell these things and install them, all the work that we did is 100% up to industry standards you need to contact the manufacturer (SOA). The manufacturer tells you, sorry, the hip is fine, we don't know what you are talking about, thousands of them out there, haven't heard of any problems, you need to go pay the doctor $10,000 for new parts and another surgery if you want it. What do you do? Go pay the $10,000 or try and seek a legal remedy? You're not a doctor, and not a hip manufacturer, so you better believe you try and seek a legal remedy. Same concept here, while you ARE a tech, have claimed you can fix this issue in 2 hours, etc. etc. etc. MOST of the other people here are not. They are just people in a tough spot between the "doctor" and the "manufacturer" who want to "be made whole". By sitting on here and calling everyone out for "being poor, being whiny, and whatever else," you are doing the exact opposite of what enthusiast communities are meant for, and frankly making auto techs, and more specifically Subaru employees look bad. Why not instead be positive part of the community, use whatever connections you have at Subaru to make them more aware of the situation? Why not contact your district service manager, SOA, and whoever else, explain to them that you have seen this issue and you just wanted to make them aware that its a real issue and that customers will likely be contacting them about warranty/post-warranty repair compensation. I just don't understand what you stand to gain by being a roadblock to having these repairs covered by warranty. TL;DR: Keep up the good work OP, you can't please everyone. Last edited by SkullV; 10-15-2013 at 01:39 PM. |
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10-15-2013, 01:33 PM | #298 |
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On point, SkullV.
However, I worry that you're wasting your time on this one. Supraru is the kind of guy who, with a straight face and all the confidence in the world, would instruct a grown woman on the proper use of feminine care products--something we presume he knows nothing about. He knows everything. Just deal with it. |
10-15-2013, 01:55 PM | #299 |
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10-15-2013, 04:47 PM | #300 |
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Skull - 1st, I apprec. you sharing what appears to be 1st hand experience. The flip side? I was directed to an issue of People Mag. I was amazed at the number of 'ads' related to class action lawsuits/settlements. What the consumers got as a remedy in these, in every one I read, was a disgrace. The lawyers? Outrageously high $$'s. I honestly feel that lawyers are killing our country. There are some good ones but for the most part--when I see 'class action' fishing ads, it's very telling where the money goes...(just my opinion...but I'm a regular consumer, so I count!)
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