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Old 04-30-2013, 05:14 PM   #1
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Hey guys! We have launched a class action lawsuit against Subaru for the 2008+ WRX models concerning the issue with the firewall breaking. Please go online at the link below and fill out your information if you have been affected by this issue. Thank you in advance for your help!

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A class action lawsuit? Really? If this truly is a saftey issue then have as many WRX owners as possible file complaints with the NTSB (https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/) and push for a recall. Otherwise, a class action suit will just cost Subaru money to fight it and drive up costs of future cars. And if for some reason your lawyers are successful they laugh all the way to the bank while WRX owners get pocket change.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:34 PM   #4
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^ This. class action lawsuits are nothing but money in the pocket of lawyers and jack **** in the pockets of the people.
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I think people experiencing the issue should both add themselves to the suit and also report to the NTSB.

IMO, it is a safety issue because the brake pedal is shifting and could compromise your ability to safely find the brake pedal in a braking event. Secondly, in the event of a crash, the clutch/brake pedal assembly could move in a direction not orginally designed causing injury to the legs/feet.

I'm surprised this issue hasn't gotten more attention.

I would like to see that data between stock clutches and heavier duty clutches. I believe a heavier duty clutch would likely increase the possibility of this happening. It still doesn't make it right though.
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HAHAHAHAHA.

as a current law school student this **** is hysterical.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:35 PM   #7
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HAHAHAHAHA.

as a current law school student this **** is hysterical.
Keyword = Student

I'm glad someone has the balls to do this. Hope it will open Subaru's eyes.
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Old 05-01-2013, 04:20 PM   #8
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Is this the lawsuit started by the guy with the aftermarket performance clutch?
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:12 PM   #9
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Is this the lawsuit started by the guy with the aftermarket performance clutch?
So what if an aftermarket clutch is used. There have been numerous instances of this occuring in WRXs with stock clutches. Even with than aftermarket clutch, the assembly shouldn't be tearing itself from the body of the car. I've never heard of such a thing in any other car. The clutch pedal movement is one thing, it's the fact that the brake pedal is moving and comprised which makes it a true safety issue on many levels.
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So what if an aftermarket clutch is used. There have been numerous instances of this occuring in WRXs with stock clutches. Even with than aftermarket clutch, the assembly shouldn't be tearing itself from the body of the car. I've never heard of such a thing in any other car. The clutch pedal movement is one thing, it's the fact that the brake pedal is moving and comprised which makes it a true safety issue on many levels.
So, by your thinking, I could go out and buy a shotgun with full choke, designed to shoot lead pellets with a 2.75" shell. I decide I want more performance, so I load a 3.5" magnum slug into the barrel. I pull the trigger and the gun explodes. Therefore, I should be able to sue the gun manufacturer.

Sorry, doesn't work that way.

The proper way to go about this (given stock components) is to file a complaint with NHTSA. They will investigate and determine if the failure rate constitutes a safety or design defect. If they find evidence to that effect, they will tell Subaru to issue a recall.

All this class action suit is about is some lawyer hoping to make a bunch of money. As someone has said before, the "complaintants" will end up with very little in the settlement. Come to think of it, is Armyofcase the lawyer advertising on here for clients? If so, I hope some of the settlement goes towards a vendor fee to NASIOC.
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:50 PM   #11
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So, by your thinking, I could go out and buy a shotgun with full choke, designed to shoot lead pellets with a 2.75" shell. I decide I want more performance, so I load a 3.5" magnum slug into the barrel. I pull the trigger and the gun explodes. Therefore, I should be able to sue the gun manufacturer.

Sorry, doesn't work that way.

The proper way to go about this (given stock components) is to file a complaint with NHTSA. They will investigate and determine if the failure rate constitutes a safety or design defect. If they find evidence to that effect, they will tell Subaru to issue a recall.

All this class action suit is about is some lawyer hoping to make a bunch of money. As someone has said before, the "complaintants" will end up with very little in the settlement. Come to think of it, is Armyofcase the lawyer advertising on here for clients? If so, I hope some of the settlement goes towards a vendor fee to NASIOC.
I have a fried firewall on my 08 wrx. Been like that since i bought it at 23k abd i had no idea. Stock clutch. Only mods is an intake and a TP tune. On the 08s. That's dynoed ~205 at the crank.

Spambot, quit your whining. Subaru needs to fix this.
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Spambot, quit your whining. Subaru needs to fix this for me for free.
I'm not the one signing up for a lawsuit.

Fixed. Whiner.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:03 PM   #13
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I'm not the one signing up for a lawsuit.

Fixed. Whiner.
For the record. I haven't signed this thing yet, hopefully I won't. I'm in the progress of peacefully resolving this with Subaru. Ill see where that goes first.

But For real? Get off your high horse. I actually never said for free. Sure that would be nice but real world here.

I don't however, expect Subaru to say the most they can do is charge me for a clutch + install to BEGIN to diagnose it. Then if its the firewall they'll cover it. If not I'm held responsible for outstanding costs.

Dealers have said in a few cases, they'll reweld the firewall If you do a clutch job from them. Granted not all dealers have even been that kind, but that's at least admitting fault.

My wrx is babied. I don't track, launch or any of that ****. Sure I drive spirited out here in NH, but should spirited driving cause a rip in the firewall, effectively increasing the risk to pedal failure >_<.

I love my Subaru. No issues with it other than this. Some have said its no big deal. I see myself having this car for a very long time, well over 100k. I simply expect the wall of the car not to fall apart at < 23k miles.. Rally car or not, I didn't buy a Kia.

Dear Subaru. Please love your customers as much as your commercials lead me to believe.
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Hey guys! It amazes me the hate on tryin to get something done here. I by no means want or need any money from or for this. I only want to have SOA own up to the problem and fix this for everyone. Stock clutches or aftermarket clutches are resulting in the exact same issue and problems. I posted on the federal safety site as well as hundreds of others and to date, where has that gotten anyone....Nowhere. Of course lawyers make money; why else do they spend years learning law? To end up doing pro-bono work? I don't think so....

I encourage people to have their voice heard and join this. We are not seeking fame nor fortune; only a recall of these cars and a fix from Subaru.

BTW, I am not a lawyer. I'm a Subaru enthusiast driving my second Subaru of many more to come.
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:08 PM   #15
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No hate here. I was just stating my position. Ill also give you Guys an update as things progress through SOA.
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A class action lawsuit? Really? If this truly is a saftey issue then have as many WRX owners as possible file complaints with the NTSB (https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/) and push for a recall. Otherwise, a class action suit will just cost Subaru money to fight it and drive up costs of future cars. And if for some reason your lawyers are successful they laugh all the way to the bank while WRX owners get pocket change.
yeah, some people dont look beyond their noses!
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:32 PM   #17
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If this were REALLY a problem, then we would have seen it on the Regular Imprezas/Outback Sports as well. There are far more of those in existance, with many millions more miles on the firewalls/stock clutches than there will ever be on 08+ WRX/STI's.
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...and how many of those are manuals? Not many. The WRX also uses a stiffer clutch.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:10 AM   #19
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Yeah..my 2008 2.5i has a cracked firewall. Was driving it one day and heard a pop noise, then got home and clutch pedal started feeling weird and squeaky. No mods on my car either but suspension and wheels.
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Yeah..my 2008 2.5i has a cracked firewall. Was driving it one day and heard a pop noise, then got home and clutch pedal started feeling weird and squeaky. No mods on my car either but suspension and wheels.
Have you heard of other 2.5i's doing this? I'm wondering if it is only manual transmissions and also wonder if it happens to the STI's also...
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:55 AM   #21
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FWIW, my firewall and pedal assembly cracked about 50k miles ago. Because of it the bottom of the brake pedal travel "squishes" and I lose some amount of braking. It also screwed my master and slave cylinders. Response from 2 Subaru dealers, "STI master and slave cylinders never go bad."
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:53 AM   #22
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Yes, it's pretty bad that they are not being so receptive to the issue or more so that they are denying that there is a problem.
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if your car is modded at all and you break the welds on that fire wall, they shouldn't cover it. how do they know you haven't done something to the car to damage it. good luck getting subaru to cover anything if they can tell the car has been modded. and their lawyers will look on NASIOC and other forums, it's happened in the past.

to the people with stock cars, call the NTSB. that's your best bet. go to your dealer, have it fixed, and if they refuse, call SOA and raise hell. they'll do it.

if you have an aftermarket clutch...seriously? lol thats just funny.
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if your car is modded at all and you break the welds on that fire wall, they shouldn't cover it. how do they know you haven't done something to the car to damage it. good luck getting subaru to cover anything if they can tell the car has been modded. and their lawyers will look on NASIOC and other forums, it's happened in the past.

to the people with stock cars, call the NTSB. that's your best bet. go to your dealer, have it fixed, and if they refuse, call SOA and raise hell. they'll do it.

if you have an aftermarket clutch...seriously? lol thats just funny.
Seriously, how in the world would "mods" have any impact on this issue? Please, elaborate on this basis.
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Seriously, how in the world would "mods" have any impact on this issue? Please, elaborate on this basis.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE MODIFICATIONS WILL OR WILL NOT DO.

if you think Subaru or anyone is going to warranty a modified vehicle that MAY or MAY NOT have put more stress on the firewall, you're flat insane.

they don't know if you've been pounding on the clutch, tracking the car, driving it like a complete idiot. but they do know that you've been modifying it. which means that you've likely driven the car hard, causing more stress on chassis components. it's the exact same as putting a big turbo on your car, blowing a ringland and they saying to subaru they have to replace the motor. they'll tell you to pound sand, as they rightfully should. they don't have the honor warranties on modified vehicles, it's written into the warranty contract you signed. you technically broke your contract with Subaru, which means they're no longer obligated to keep up their end of the bargain. it's that simple.
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