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Old 01-26-2014, 03:12 AM   #1
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Default Boys, I think Im gonna buy a BRZ

Well guys, I think I will be buying a BRZ soon. As you know, my unit will be deploying soon and my 2012 WRX should be paid off this year, I think I will be buying a BRZ soon. The lure of the beautiful body and less hp is so attracting (sarcastic on the hp). I would of loved buying the 2015 WRX with the new FA20 motor but to me it's pointless since I already have a WRX. I finally test drove my friends FRS and I am in love with the handling and styling.

The only question I have is this. Any FRS/BRZ owners regret not buying a WRX instead of a FRS, besides the power difference? Should i get a 2015 STi instead?

This is coming from a guy who has own a Integra, Civic, RX-7, STi, WRX, 3000GT. Driven a Supra TT, 300zx, FD RX-7, FC.
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Old 01-26-2014, 03:15 AM   #2
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Get it. Supercharge it. E85 it. Tune it.
Be happy.

I know i would be
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Old 01-26-2014, 03:40 AM   #3
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Get it. Supercharge it. E85 it. Tune it.
Be happy.

I know i would be
Obviously he hasn't ever gotten gas in Alaska.
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Old 01-26-2014, 04:37 AM   #4
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Get it. Supercharge it. E85 it. Tune it.
Be happy.

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Obviously he hasn't ever gotten gas in Alaska.
No granny, I don't think he has any idea.

Get the STI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:44 AM   #5
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The new sti is just the same old sti with new sheet metal. No thank you. Not to mention brz are faster on the track then the wrx with less power.
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Old 01-26-2014, 02:47 PM   #6
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Import a r32 if you got $$$. Finally legal and would be bad ass lol
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Old 01-27-2014, 11:47 AM   #7
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The new sti is just the same old sti with new sheet metal.
It isn't, although if I was moving somewhere else I'd probably be looking into a brz too.
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Old 01-29-2014, 05:42 PM   #8
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Buy mine. :-D

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Old 01-30-2014, 11:02 AM   #9
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It isn't, although if I was moving somewhere else I'd probably be looking into a brz too.
What's different besides it looking like an Evo.
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Old 01-30-2014, 12:39 PM   #10
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What's different besides it looking like an Evo.
Well, it has an entirely new, substantially stiffer chassis and finally updated modern interior.
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:38 PM   #11
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Potentially long reply here, so bear with me:

I have owned a 1992 Loyal Sedan, 2001 2.5 RS Coupe, 2005 STI, 2008 Forester Sports XT and a 2011 WRX Limited Sedan. To most extents, I have thrashed all of them. The STI took the abuse the best while the WRX was straight up sissy. The Forester did what it could, but you have to mod the heck out of it to make it more car-like and thrashable. The 2.5 RS was the most fun to drive, but since I was about the 7th known owner, it had nothing but issues the entire time I owned it. Whenever it was fixed it was a hoot, though. Something about small coupes that's just a blast to drive.

My favorite car has been the BRZ. I pretty much drive it 10/10ths everyday and every opportunity I get. I get called out a bit because of it since I use the car's stature to become leader of the pack in traffic flows. Any hard turn I can make to get the car a little sideways I will take it. It's just a rewarding car to drive because the handling is predictable, it shifts smoothly and I feel like I'm actually learning how to be a better driver with this car.

The reason the BRZ works for me is because I live in Anchorage. Anchorage isn't that big of a city and traffic really isn't that fast, even on the highway. I know a lot of my FR-S and BRZ buddies have taken issue with the available power because a chunk of their driving experience is on the highways in the Lower 48. Having taken the BRZ on a near 10k road trip to the Lower 48 and back, I can definitely see their complaints. Doing 85MPH from San Diego to New Mexico, the BRZ couldn't get out of it's own way to save its life. Especially since I was in the middle of the desert and it was well over 100 degrees. The BRZ hates heat and it doesn't help that my car is black.

Anyways, here in Anchorage it works because the BRZ is a cornering beast and Anchorage has plenty of corners to explore. Roundabouts are now some of my favorite locations! It's very punchy of day to day life, plenty of power. You have to have a higher level of anticipation with it compared to an AWD performance car like the WRX or STI. Those cars have power to help compensate for any unseen issues that might come up (like a sudden gap in traffic that someone might use to overtake you and cut you off). With the BRZ, I can generally prevent from being overtaken and cutoff, but it still does happen every once in a blue moon. An extra 20HP wouldn't hurt, for sure. Although with a drop-in filter and some bolt-ons, apparently that helps bring the car to life a bit, so I'm most likely going to go that route.

Which brings me to another point: I love how simple this car is. Very spartan. Maintenance is simple. And because it's a Subaru it's familiar despite being "brand new". Top that with good gas mileage (I can still pull off 20 mpg city after a bit of aggressive driving), for my circumstances the BRZ is perfect. The looks are a bonus, I get a lot of stares wherever I go, but the WRX got looks, too. I laugh when people online say these newer Subarus look worse that Subarus from 10 years ago or so. The comments and compliments I receive are almost daily, from friends, family and strangers at stores and gas stations, etc.

I will put in my $0.02 about the 2015 WRX: I think it's a game-changer. It's the next best step up from any WRX previously and great for anyone that can't commit to the BRZ due to space or the STI due to price and lack of "new hotness" engine. I still think the FA25DIT should exist and be put in the STI, but who knows if that's coming. That would have changed the whole game. The WRX has all the STI bits that people have wanted (5x114.3 and 6-speed manual), plus improved gas mileage and much, much improved handling (sorely needed, the stock WRX handling really does suck if you know that any other performance car exists) and a roomier and nicer interior help complete the package.

Because I got burned so bad on my last WRX purchase, I'll never go back to a WRX. Unfortunately, the new STI isn't new enough for me, either. I think it's a great upgrade for anyone that hasn't upgraded to an STI before or in a while. I think the power and handling capabilities will finally compliment each other well. Another factor that deters me from the 2015's is the design. I'm just not into it. It doesn't look BETTER than my BRZ. It doesn't look as purposeful or complete. It looks compromised, and that was my big tiff with my WRX. Driving that car felt like a compromise all the time, like everything could have been more. Even dealing with Subaru (SOA or the dealership), there's just this hatred that comes with owning a WRX. I felt like I was being told, "You should have got the STI since we actually build that car to be good."

My BRZ feels purposeful. It feels like its price point. Wanting anything beyond stock is more of a preference. Heck, even the crappy tires are awesome since at least they handle predictably and are fun! Obviously you upgrade those if you're not into sliding sideways. The new WRX definitely has much more focus. So much focus that they actually decided to nix the hatch! Now if that's not commitment, I don't know what is! haha

Obviously there are going to be people that totally disagree with me, and that's fine. This is all just my experience since I've pretty much owned every model Subaru. The BRZ feels like the best parts of my STI and 2.5 RS, without AWD, if that can make any sense at all. I don't need turbo lag and 300HP to have fun. There weren't many places for me to use that much power and it just gets dangerous when you try. The BRZ, though, lets you use the (lack of) power it has without getting into too much danger. "It's more fun to drive a slow car fast."

Plus there are SO many pieces out for the FT-86 at this point that you can make them unique to your right away. For reference: How long has the 3rd Gen Impreza body style been available and their STILL is no alternative taillight option for the hatchback? The BRZ has about 25 different taillights options and it's not even two years old yet!

Okay, done ranting for now, but hopefully I provided decent food for thought. I do try to be open and honest with my experiences. I'm making plans to actually drive my own car in autox this summer so I can put my money where my mouth is finally!
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