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Old 12-02-2002, 01:33 PM   #1
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I'm coming up for the xmas break. Was wondering if anybody would like to hold an impromptu meet somewhere to chat and take a look at ur rides.

We could probably meet @ MXC Racing. I'm sure Brad wouldn't mind.

Gimme a msg or post.

Chris
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Old 12-03-2002, 09:21 AM   #2
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What are the dates that you are looking at? I would be most definately be interested if I am still in town.
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Old 12-03-2002, 10:23 AM   #3
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Probably around between Dec 22 to Dec 28th........then i'm coming back to Etown for New years.

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Old 12-04-2002, 06:53 PM   #4
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Old 12-05-2002, 06:07 PM   #5
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hey... Fort McMurray. I grew up in Fort Mac.

Nice to hear there's some sort of Subaru following up there. There definitely wasn't any when I was there.

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Old 12-08-2002, 01:30 PM   #6
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Cool! Let me know when
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Old 12-09-2002, 10:08 AM   #7
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I have lots of memories of Fort McMurray. I worked there building Syncrude in the summer of 1977. Back then, the area was pretty rough as boomtowns are; lot's of drinking, gambling, whoring and crime. I lived in a bunkhouse on the work site. I have never eaten as well, before or since. After work, I would lie on a cot outside (in summer of course) and enjoy the incredible variety of dramatic cloud formations for miles in every direction. A LOT of money was made in a short time. Some who worked there gambled their money away in RCMP supervised card games at the rec halls while others saved their money and bought houses, started business, invested, etc. I made enough in a short time (2 months) to live on for a year while I went to art college. The night before he was to stop working at Syncrude, one unfortunate guy lost a huge amount of money gambling while drunk and drugged. When he came to the next day and realized what he had done, he blew his brains out with a shotgun. I hope to get back there sometime to see what Fort McMurray is like now.
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Old 12-09-2002, 01:39 PM   #8
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It's expanded tonnes! I lived there for the first 18 years of my life, and there has been so much change in such a little amount of time that the City hasn't dealt with it well. Lotsa overcrowding, especially on the roads, heck, i'd rather drive in edmonton then drive in Fort Mac. That has to say something.

What if we were to meet on Dec 23rd? or if people can't make it b/c it's a Monday, then the 22nd. I'd prefer the daytime, and as i said before, we could meet in front of MXC....hopefully they'll be open at the time.

Post a time that u could make it. 1:00pm?

Chris
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Old 12-10-2002, 02:50 PM   #9
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Old 12-10-2002, 03:57 PM   #10
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I will unfortunately be gone as of the 20th. Got a offer for a 4 day contract in Red Deer, pays to well to turn down. Sorry.
Hopefully we can get together another day. Maybe in Edmonton on the 27th.
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Old 12-12-2002, 04:07 PM   #11
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anybody? helloooooooooooooooooo?
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Old 12-12-2002, 11:01 PM   #12
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It's expanded tonnes! I lived there for the first 18 years of my life, and there has been so much change in such a little amount of time that the City hasn't dealt with it well. Lotsa overcrowding, especially on the roads, heck, i'd rather drive in edmonton then drive in Fort Mac. That has to say something.

What if we were to meet on Dec 23rd? or if people can't make it b/c it's a Monday, then the 22nd. I'd prefer the daytime, and as i said before, we could meet in front of MXC....hopefully they'll be open at the time.

Post a time that u could make it. 1:00pm?

Chris
I remember traffic jams back when Syncrude was being built. At the time I was there, there were 5,000 electricians, of which I was one, on site. I live in Toronto now so I won't be making it out to Fort Mac in the forseeable future.

I don't think that the Kyoto thing will be a problem there. Although some companies are threatening to shelve development projects now, the remaining undeveloped tarsands will eventually be developed regardless of Kyoto because Canada and the U.S. will be too desperate to have it to leave it in the sand. Alberta's future is secure.
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Old 12-14-2002, 01:15 PM   #13
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I don't think that the Kyoto thing will be a problem there.
WITHOUT PREDJUDICE

With all due repsect, I think you're dead wrong.

Kyoto has nothing to do with saving the environemnt and everything to do with the transfer of wealth to poor countries via penalties and taxes to those companies that do not abide by the required targets. Of course, we're all smart enough to figure out who all end's up paying for all of this don't we??? That's right...you and me.

Kyoto is going to change people's lives dramtically 10 years from now, in terms of the money we will have to pay to simply get by. It's just going to be another tax that we pay just so we can heat our homes, drive our cars, transport goods, etc. And since the US isn't part of it, our primary trading partner will continue to have an even more significant advantage over Canadian people and companies. If our cost to produce and ship goods increases, do you think the Americans are going to simply pay more??? Not a chance, they'll buy from another country (like Mexico for example) to maintain their profit margins.

Kyoto is another example of misguided Liberal Social Engineering, and a vivid example of Jean Poutine's arrogance and incompetance.

The only thing I can even remotely see as a positive in the Kyoto protocol is that maybe for once, it will get those p--h--u--c--k--i--n--g SUV's off the roads.

Sorry for the rant.
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Old 12-14-2002, 02:11 PM   #14
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kyoto willl be huge for everywhere!!!!!! don't be fooled.
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Old 12-15-2002, 01:10 PM   #15
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Kyoto is not just about climate change, it is about economics and politics too. The Europeon Econominc Union/Market, China, and other economies have ratified Kyoto. Their markets will be harder to sell to for countries which have not ratified Kyoto. At the point when the economic and political costs of excessive energy consumption and pollution are unbearable, the U.S. and Mexico will ratify Kyoto too. The whole world will be better off.
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Old 12-16-2002, 01:50 AM   #16
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lets see when russia signs up too! you need 75% of participating countries b4 it's really in effect.......besides there will always be pro's and con's to the issue.....but in the long run it will create more work for canadians, cuz george w want's our oil cuz we are non opec anyways.....and not to be fooled, alberta is american in alot of ways......we will be the first province with privatized health care and we already have a tory government which is basically republican...
my shot at the issue
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Old 12-16-2002, 11:13 AM   #17
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The oil companies are b*ll*****t*ng us that they are shelving further development of the tar sands ONLY because of Kyoto. The real reason is there is an overproduction of oil now and the world is heading for a recession. Easily extracted liquid oil is becoming scarcer and the longer the tar sands are undeveloped, the more they are worth and the more profitable the oil they contain becomes. The oil companies also don't want to spend money on building plants using existing extraction technology because it generates a lot of greenhouse gases. New technology has to be developed (guess where?) before they build the next generation of tar sands oil extraction plants. The new technology R&D will generate more high-tech, well-paid, jobs. The new extraction technology will be more efficient and the environment will be polluted less per liter of extracted oil. Alberta will potentially benefit economically and environmentally a lot more because of Kyoto than without it.
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Old 12-16-2002, 08:43 PM   #18
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Anyways, BACK to the topic.....do the Fort Mac guys wanna meet?

C
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Old 12-18-2002, 07:31 PM   #19
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Yes chris......but what day and time cuz i'm working most of the time,
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Old 12-18-2002, 11:29 PM   #20
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what about Dec 22nd? or the 23rd? sometime in the afternoon.

I can work to ur schedule, so u just pick a time that is best for u and i bet i can make it.

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Old 12-26-2002, 12:21 PM   #21
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Sorry chris, i wasn't availabe those days cuz i was workin, I really only get the stat holidays off, I do have to go to work on friday, but i could meet you on the weekend if you are still here
well let me know and sorry for the late reply
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Old 12-26-2002, 07:44 PM   #22
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To late buddy, maybe next time.
I'm leaving the fort tmrw (Dec 27th). Maybe in the spring we can try to get a meet together.

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