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Old 09-02-2004, 07:17 PM   #1
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At the Track Took the STi to the track.

It was my first time in anything except an FWD Cavalier. So these were the (2 best) runs for my stock (besides an RFL BOV with no washers ) BOV.

First run of teh night (also of teh evAr):

R/T: 1.154 (I know)
60': 1.723
330: 5.499
1/8 : 8.617 @ 79.15
1000: 11.292
1/4: 13.575 @ 99.11


Last run of the night:

R/T: .898
60': 1.937
330: 5.619
1/8: 8.701 @ 80.37
1000: 11.342
1/4: 13.596 @ 100.43

So yep, that was my experience, I'm lookin forward to going again and improving as much as I can.

I'd like to pick up a nice TBE and MBC and then see how I can do.
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Old 09-02-2004, 07:43 PM   #2
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The 60' are good, you probably need to lerarn to shift faster, with a 60' of 1.7 you should be right around 13.0. Also, unless you are bracket racing, dont concern yourself with the R/T since it has no bearing on your run.
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Old 09-02-2004, 07:56 PM   #3
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I would say thats damn good for a first time ever AND with a turbo too Took me forever to learn to launch it and I am still learning to go faster. Those are some real good 60's for a first timer
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Old 09-02-2004, 07:59 PM   #4
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I would say thats damn good for a first time ever AND with a turbo too Took me forever to learn to launch it and I am still learning to go faster. Those are some real good 60's for a first timer
I agree, I didnt mean to sound like it was a bad performance, especially for the forst time, but just trying to siggest where you might be able to improve your times.
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Old 09-02-2004, 08:16 PM   #5
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nice job for your first outing. with an intake and tbe, you can get to 12.60's. I wouldnt get a boost controler until you get some sort of engine managment. You can max out the stock fuel system pretty easily on these cars.
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Old 09-02-2004, 08:16 PM   #6
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not bad times.
u should try and go run again w/ stock BOV.
i know someone who ran 13.2@100 consistently w/ stock STi and worse 60ft..
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Old 09-02-2004, 08:17 PM   #7
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total opposite of me. I can shift but cant launch

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Old 09-02-2004, 08:40 PM   #8
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i was spectating the better of those two, the first run i believe and it was awesome. the launch was very smooth and fast

nice job again man, glad to see you ran another nice one after I left
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Old 09-02-2004, 08:59 PM   #9
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nice job for your first outing. with an intake and tbe, you can get to 12.60's. I wouldnt get a boost controler until you get some sort of engine managment. You can max out the stock fuel system pretty easily on these cars.
Hey thanks guys! I'd die if I could do a 12.6 with just intake and TBE. As far as engine management goes, I'm not sure I'd spend the money on that. It's hard enough to just pay for the car, lol. If I got an MBC I'd use it safely, and probably just spend whatever other money I have on some exterior work, and just leave the performance at TBE/MBC, or just TBE, whatever funds allow for at the time.

But thanks alot again!
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Old 09-02-2004, 09:15 PM   #10
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screw the exterior work, get the UTEC. better to be safe than to look better.
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Old 09-02-2004, 09:18 PM   #11
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screw the exterior work, get the UTEC. better to be safe than to look better.
Yeah what he said
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Old 09-07-2004, 10:17 AM   #12
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screw the exterior work, get the UTEC. better to be safe than to look better.
Well, I'm all about looking good AND going fast.

A nice lip kit and a little drop would make me happy, and then I'd get deeper into performance than just a TBE/MBC.
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Old 09-07-2004, 11:05 AM   #13
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nice 60ft times

I agree with JewPac, your shifting is what is slowing you down according to those numbers

should be 13 flat with a little work !
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Old 09-07-2004, 11:11 AM   #14
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Heck your doing better 60's than I do and I'm in the mid 12's You have a 13 flat at the least it would seem to me
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Old 09-07-2004, 12:08 PM   #15
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Nytmare

What is your launch technique ???? I just got a STI & the long 1st gear makes launching much different that my 93 Talon AWD.

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Old 09-07-2004, 12:12 PM   #16
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It was my first time in anything except an FWD Cavalier. So these were the (2 best) runs for my stock (besides an RFL BOV with no washers ) BOV.

First run of teh night (also of teh evAr):

R/T: 1.154 (I know)
60': 1.723
330: 5.499
1/8 : 8.617 @ 79.15
1000: 11.292
1/4: 13.575 @ 99.11


Last run of the night:

R/T: .898
60': 1.937
330: 5.619
1/8: 8.701 @ 80.37
1000: 11.342
1/4: 13.596 @ 100.43

So yep, that was my experience, I'm lookin forward to going again and improving as much as I can.

I'd like to pick up a nice TBE and MBC and then see how I can do.
Your first launch is excellent, but just like JewPac said, you need to start shifting faster, and probably at a higher rpm. I have a WRX with TurboXS Stage "2.5" (Stage 2 + uppipe), and i ran a 13.550. So with an STi, you should be able to do a lot better than that.
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Old 09-07-2004, 12:15 PM   #17
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Damn...well as I said, I'd love to be in the low 13's, I guess if I can get my shifting to be faster, I might have a chance at that, lol.

Micropro: My launch is actually a hybrid of many different techniques I've read. On my 1.7, I held the RPM's at (I think it was) about 5500, no bouncing back and forth on the RPM's, I did that on my last run, did a 1.9, but still got a 13.5 (maybe shifting was better ???) So yeah, I held the rpm's steady, and lifted off of the clutch really quickly. Not a dump, but what I've read as the pace paralleled by that as if "you just stepped in dog ****" Just a really quick liftoff. Apparently it worked really well, lol.

I'd heard from V6TurboTA that he wouldn't suggest powershifting (leaving your foot on the gas the whole time), does anyone agree or disagree with this? I'd try it out if it might help out my times.
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Old 09-07-2004, 12:49 PM   #18
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He (V6), is basically being nice to his car as he see's it as an investment and does not want to hurt it. I however broke my 5MT so I did a JDM swap EJ207 6MT and have been beeting it to death almost.

I was flat shifting it and it was doing quite well but you have to keep up on the trans fluid changes. I had taken it to the drags and it was flat shifting beautiful but as I put miles on the trans things went bad. Well actually I had about 10,000 miles on the trans and fluid at the time. The track was letting me hot lap witch is just as soon as you get to the staging lanes you drive threw and race immediately, no sitting and cooling down.

As I flat shifted into 5th it ground and I forced it after three try's on 1 run. Needless to say 5th always grinds now as I seem to have broken the 5th syncro. I went and picked up another 6MT with DCCD now but haven't put it in yet as 9/11 is to close to possibly disable my car?

So I would say if you want to try flat shifting the 6MT make sure it has new fluid and do not hot lap it. That and if 5th(seems to be the week link) does not want to go, lift the gas on that gear. My only thoughts on this for now
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Old 09-07-2004, 05:25 PM   #19
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Yeah I really don't wanna start having issues with the tranny. I never launch the car except for on the track. In fact, I think that first run I listed was the third time I ever launched the car.

I've only flat shifted it once or twice, so maybe it'd be worth it to try it out on the track. Did you see any differences in your times when you flat shifted as opposed to the usual techniques?
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Old 09-07-2004, 05:42 PM   #20
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Yes so to speak. My last 2 runs were a 12.61 I think @ 109 lifting the gas while shifitng. Last run I flat shifted to a 12.51 @106 but that was missing 5th 3 times cause I had hurt the syncro last time I was at the track.

I was running old oil and I did 3 hot laps to agravate the situation when I hurt 5th gear. My problem is when it doesn't go and I'm racing I just try to force it Now I know to use good oil and if it don't go, don't force it just lift off the gas and shift normal...quick but normal
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Old 09-07-2004, 05:48 PM   #21
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Hmmm...so it sounds like flat shifting might help a good bit. Also, wouldn't that eliminate the theory of the BOV slowing me down? Because that way, no pressure is even being released. Hmmmm, this definitely sounds like it's worth trying. Maybe I can get into the low 13's in stock form afterall.
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Old 09-07-2004, 06:01 PM   #22
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Yeah between every flat shift you feel the car pull a bit harder when you release the clutch. Prolly cause of the flywheel inertia and all but also no spool down
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Old 09-07-2004, 06:25 PM   #23
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I ran 13.068 bone stock w/ a 1.699 60' w/o flatshifting so it's definately possible. I never had a an air day like that day again but i've gotten 13.0 flat shifting in hotter humid weather so i feel it helped alot also i bracket race and it made me a lot more consistent.
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Old 09-07-2004, 08:31 PM   #24
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I ran 13.068 bone stock w/ a 1.699 60' w/o flatshifting so it's definately possible. I never had a an air day like that day again but i've gotten 13.0 flat shifting in hotter humid weather so i feel it helped alot also i bracket race and it made me a lot more consistent.
Goddamn, now THAT is fast lol.

Hopefully I can pull a time like that next time.

You, sir, get a banana.
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Old 09-10-2004, 09:05 PM   #25
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Nytmare,

What were the weather conditions? Elevation of that track?

Is that a "corrected" time or the timeslip time?

Nice for first time if that was your timeslip times
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