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Old 12-06-2005, 04:33 PM   #201
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TypeC - right. I had it like this because sometimes there was a glitch where the utec sent crazy info and it caused a "false knock" to trigger, even though there wasnt one. I think i've probably made it so this doesnt happen and i bet I can undo that safety feature so that users can see knock in the 0% column. Would that make everybody happy?

fatray - glad to hear your problem, sucks that its that bad. Can you just use the 3rd usb port instead?

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Old 12-06-2005, 05:26 PM   #202
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Update: Version 1.8 is finally out. Check out the site for all the updates. There are some good ones in there. I hope everything works, I havnt actually road-tested it yet. I am working on the map editor so thats why UTI has been slow to update in the past week.

http://www.dezignduo.com/UTI/

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Old 12-06-2005, 05:28 PM   #203
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Jeff,

I know you specified this for UTEC V5.0. I tried connecting with the older 4.3c software and it connected and the data looks correct. Is it OK to use with that version firmware?
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:04 PM   #204
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Yea, its safer to use the logger-1 mode instead of dashboard but you can try both and if they show up ok then its fine.

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Old 12-07-2005, 01:01 AM   #205
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Update: Version 1.8 is finally out. Check out the site for all the updates. There are some good ones in there. I hope everything works, I havnt actually road-tested it yet. I am working on the map editor so thats why UTI has been slow to update in the past week.

http://www.dezignduo.com/UTI/

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Setting alarm 15 minutes earlier.... you bastard!... I mean thanks!
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:56 AM   #206
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I have already found a few hiccups with 1.8 and i'll address them today. You will probably notice that the tables dissapear every 10 seconds...thats because they are being saved. Well I told the code to figure out which one you were looking at and to make it re-appear when its done saving and apparently its not doing that so i gotta take a look at why its not doing that properly. The reason I hide them when saving is because when you tell a flex-grid(table) to change cells at an extremely fast rate like when trying to read every cell in the table one by one, row by row, then it is slow to do that if you can actually see the table. If you hide it first then it literally takes place instantly. So by hiding it I can read the entire table in like 1/1000000 of a second, as opposed to 3 seconds if I leave it visible.

I'll post the update this afternoon.

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Old 12-07-2005, 04:49 PM   #207
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Ok, the bugs have been addressed and everything is ok. 1.8B is now available on the site. This is probably my last version for about 9 days. I have to go underway from this friday until the next friday. When I get back though I might have some nice things for you all, it depends on how much I feel like coding while out at sea.

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Old 12-07-2005, 09:59 PM   #208
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I am still seeing some goofy activity when opening/saving/resetting tables. I dont know quite what is going on yet but im trying to figure it out. If you have similar problems keep calm, im work'n on it!

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Old 12-07-2005, 10:37 PM   #209
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Well it seems to have gone away...if you have a hard time getting the tables to reset, just delete the tables.csv file and that should do the trick. Do it when the program is not open though.

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Old 12-07-2005, 11:41 PM   #210
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You know, a feature I'd really appreciate is to separate each pull log with an empty line. That way I can glance at it and determine which block is from what run. How it is now, if I have more than 2 runs, I have no idea what I'm looking at.
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:34 PM   #211
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I thought about doing that, it would be really easy to impliment. If that is what the general consensus is then I can make it happen.

While im gone for a week im going to code the cool stuff like MPH,feet/second, and G's, HP, and TQ. It will all be real-time so while crusing on the highway you can see approx. how much horsepower you are generating just to maintain speed. I dont know how accurate it is going to be but i've done some experimental math and it appears to be doable.

Would anybody like the tables in UTI to be color-coded, like the afr table will have each cell change color depending on what value is inside it? It wouldn't be hard, i've practically already written the code for the map editor program I wrote. Let me know and i'll see what I can do.

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Old 12-12-2005, 11:00 AM   #212
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After using it a lot the last week I noticed that for some reason my knock report stopped working. It'll show a pull report that contains knock, but the knock report shows nothing.

Also, if I open a pull report and clear it, UTI stops generating any further pull reports until I close and reopen.
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Old 12-12-2005, 10:31 PM   #213
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Well over the past couple days I've spent probably 20 combined hours coding. The program has seen several HUGE upgrades. I dont know If I could even list them all off the top of my head but basically, everybody's dreams have come true...Here are a couple things just to get you an idea....

1. Program is skin-able. You can now create your own skin in PS and use it.
2. Tables now are backed by arrays that store the data to .000001 accuracy.
3. Tables are now colored to represent the value in each different cell
4. Tables include MAFv and TPS
5. You can now choose where you want to save logs, the afr table, and the persistant tables.
6. Persistant tables are re-organized and better created.
7. Playback now goes up to >100 lines a second
8. CPU usage dropped dramatically during playback
9. Real-time graphing of boost, just like greddy E-01 boost controller, afr and others soon to come
10. AFR delay has been upped to 8 lines instead of just 4.
11. Playback now has "Play", "Pause", and "Stop" commands.
12. Telemetry: Real-time display of MPH, Feet/Second, Horsepower, Torque, and G's.
13. Several code enhancements that operate faster and more efficiently.

That is all I can think of off the top of my head, I know there is more but I hope this pleases many of you guys out there.

TypeC - I'll take a look into the code and see if I can find anything to support those problems.

I should be back on thursday so perhaps a new version will be out on friday. Have a nice night!

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Old 12-13-2005, 02:50 PM   #214
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If there was a Heisman Trophy for UTEC-related contributions, Jeff would get my vote for 2005.

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Old 12-14-2005, 11:08 PM   #215
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Type-C: Check your knock threshold in your settings panel. Also, make sure the dropdown Knock Autologs is checked. I tested the pull report and it works just fine for me, I can reset and it will still work just fine; all clicking on the "clear log" button does is erase the text in the box, thats it. I am back in town and I am going to comb through and continue to work on the program and aim for a friday release of version 1.9.

Zola: Thanks for the compliment, glad you like it!

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Old 12-16-2005, 06:49 PM   #216
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any chance for a release today?
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:09 PM   #217
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I pushed back the release to tomorrow. I am trying to squeeze in some features at the last minute. I still have a few hurdles and ideas im tossing around. Here are some ideas that I havnt implimented but want to:

1. Pull History: This saves info like duration, start/stop rpm, peak boost, any knock, etc. This will just be something you can quickly look at and see the overall details of a pull without having to read the entire pull.

2. Multiple Realtime graphing items: right now I just graph boost, but to graph AFR and ignition would be nice. The graph flickers when it is updated and im trying to find a way around that but so far I have had no luck.

I dont know how to make a dialog box(open file/close file) allow you to select a folder as the appropriate item; it only lets you select files. Well I need to make a way for you to select what folder to save your logs in. Im sure i'll figure it out soon.

Ok well thats it, this version is worth the wait, trust me!

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Old 12-17-2005, 12:01 AM   #218
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Ok gang, here's a nice tidbit:

I Just updated the warnings sounds to something better than the generic "beep". The rpm warning can/should be used as an audible shift indicator. I am going to use an old laptop hooked up to my head unit via an aux->Stereo line cable for audio so that I can actually have UTI tell me when to shift. It is the Kenwood CA-C1AUX cable from crutchfield. Anyways, The sounds also have protection from being played too soon after just playing; RPM is 2 seconds, Overboost is 2 seconds, and overheating is 8 seconds. I am probably going to code in something that looks to see how fast your rpms are climbing and play the sound in advance so that by the time it plays, you will be at the rpm. This also makes it easier for you to shift on time; if it waited until 7k to sound off, then in first gear you would be screwed because it revs waaay too fast, but in higher gears, it takes a lot more time for you to rev from rpm A to rpm B. I have to check how fast you are logging, the time delay, and guestimate when the perfect time to do it is, but that wont take maybe 20 mins. to code in there. Because of this, you wont have to set your rpm warning prematurely just to hear it in time; the program auto-adjusts for you! Does your STi's stock shift indicator do that? I dont think so...............

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Old 12-17-2005, 10:10 AM   #219
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Does your STi's stock shift indicator do that? I dont think so...............
My ears do

The easiest effective way of calculating lead time on RPMs is a learning algorithm. You can do guesses based on RPM delta but without a very large and linear sample rate (which the UTEC does not give) your prediction line will need some serious smoothing. Its possible to make it work "ok" easily, to work perfectly the UTEC doesn't give you enough info. Speed is pretty much all you need if the user tells the program what the final drive ratios are....

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If you are fast-logging then the sample rate is quite high(20 lines/second). Speed, as you well know, is directly proportional to your rpm, so to use one or the other is basically the same. UTI does have user input for gear ratios, so it does know how fast you are going, just not what gear you are in so it shows it for every gear. For the program to calculate horsepower and torque, I already have a very effective method of smoothening the rpm values, so I can use that to make good predictions as far as future rpm values. I am expecting an early afternoon release of 1.9, I am still working on it and was all night last night.

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Old 12-17-2005, 03:25 PM   #221
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Alright, the rpm-prediction is done. It uses a semi-advanced method of filtering the rpm values and smoothening them out. Then it uses those values to predict what rpm you will be at in 0.5 seconds, then if its >= your warning rpm, it will sound the alarm. I figured that 1/2 a second was a good amount of time for someone to react, so it should suit most people. Perhaps in the future i'll make it adjustable but for now its stuck at .5 seconds.

I'll be releasing this new version very soon, probaby under an hour from now.

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Old 12-17-2005, 04:45 PM   #222
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UPDATE: Version 1.9 is OUT!

If there are any serious issues i'll release a 1.9B tomorrow. I hope it works for everybody!

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I guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow. No data is populating in any of the fields. Tables, Info, Nowhere.
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Also, I'd really like to include a timing map in the "tables" view.

The tables view is the MOST important thing in UTI IMO. It saves TONS of time when analysing logs and tuning because I don't have to read a 2D log and convert it to a 3D UTEC type plot. I can just open the log and UTEC at the same time and edit the maps.

Also, I think all of the windows should be resizable. The log window just barely doesn't fit in 800X600 and I can't resize it at all. This means if I want to see the data, I can't see the "save, clear, close" button at the button. It's hard to move the screeen around while driving

Lastly, +1 for the logging with a blank line between pulls. I can't see why anyone wouldn't want this. If you had this, then you wouldn't need that log summary you talked about.

Oh, and my knock report just plain doesn't work anyway. I have defaults for everything. Also the gauges don't work either. Both worked on a previous version, but not lately.

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rainmanjam - Did you follow the directions in the readme file? I have used it and so far it works fine for me. apparently Type-C can get it to work ok.

If the gauges dont work then you probably need to install macromedia flash on your computer. I dont know why the knock report doesnt work for you...i know it works on my computer just fine. I'll double-check the code again.

What do you mean by having a timing map?

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