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Old 11-04-2012, 01:18 AM   #1
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Hi everyone, did some searching but I couldn't find any with the same noise but maybe my description is slightly different from others. A little background even though it might be irrelevant but I did all these within the last 2 weeks.

I have a 2002 WRX with about 108000 miles. I bought the car with about 89000 miles on it. I got my 105 timing belt service done at 105. I think the clutch started slipping at around 100 at higher rpms in like 3rd or 4th gear but lately it hasn't slipped much. I don't drive the car hard at all and I pretty much only have an axle back. It's just a daily and I don't track.

2 weeks ago I got some rims and coil overs. Last week I added a used front 2004 STI Brembo brake kit with used rotors and used brake pads.

This is when all the weirdness started to happen. Mechanic told me that the rotors and brake pads were pretty worn so there's no point of resurfacing them. He said they'll make a little bit of noise but it shouldn't harm the car since I told him I'll be replacing the rotors and brake pads this upcoming week. He said to drive it and it'll be fine.

After I left his shop a week later(which is about 2 days ago) I was reversing out of a parking lot when I heard a weird whrrrrr whrrrrrr noise. It then went away so I ignored it. Next day it happened again, so I thought it was the brakes since it made similar noises. This only happened in reverse at first when I slowly released the clutch and not even applying gas. However, it's starting to get more weird because it started to make that whrrr whrrr noise when I put it into reverse and release the clutch slowly but the car wasnt even moving yet. So I really don't think it's the brake any more plus the noise seems to be coming from the middle front of the car now since it's louder.

Now the car started to make the same exact noise when I shift into first but it goes away once the car is moving. It happens majority of the time now. There was one time today when I was driving and I tried to shift to 3rd gear but I couldn't put it into gear. Pumped the clutch a couple of times and it worked. Scared the crap out of me since I was in the middle of driving. 30 minutes ago when I pulled into the drive way the check oil light turned on for like 1 second and went away.

I'm planning to take it to a Subaru Specialty shop on Monday but do you guys have any ideas on what it is? Is it a simple transmission oil replacement or do you think I need to replace the entire transmission? Is this a clutch issue? Any thoughts or tips would be greatly appreciated before I take this car in. Also do you guys know the cost associated with this (worse case scenario)? Debating if I should just sell the car if it's going to cost me like 4000 to fix when I bought this car for 6000. Thanks for reading my ramble.
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:54 AM   #2
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wow... can't read the 2 bricks of words... you had the right idea when you hit enter that ONE time... but I still can't read all of that without ending up bouncing all over the place..
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:11 AM   #3
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Lol sorry tried to be as detail as possible. Summary: I hear a whrrrrrerr whrrrrrer noise when I reverse and in 1st gear from stop. Also had trouble shifting into 3rd one time.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:18 AM   #4
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Your car doesn't have a check oil light. It has a no oil pressure light. Usually when that light comes on is because you have no oil in the car and damage to engine has already begun.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:19 AM   #5
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Hmm I checked my oil level after and it was okay still. It was towards the low side but still some there
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:05 AM   #6
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I used mobile 1 5w30 high mileage oil for my last oil change.
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:17 AM   #7
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Much better... Thanks

My thought is clutch, or throw out bearing more specifically... You already said it was slipping

I would just keep an eye on it, check fluid level in the trans...
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:15 PM   #8
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Should I be driving on it though.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:27 PM   #9
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It's up to you, the clutch isn't going to get any better, I can promis you that..

If you don't have any chunks in the fluid or on the plug, then I'd be looking at the clutch, I mean it IS supposed to wear out and die...

So, first I would check the fluid level, make sure that's not a factor, if it's low, could be a factor, if not, move on...

Then, I'd drain it into a clean container and see what you find in the oil and on the plug... that's a good indication of what might be happening inside... if you find chunks then you know things are amiss.. and the trans will be coming out at some point...

However, my feeling based on what you posted is that simply the clutch is on it's way out, and/or the fluid needs a changing.. one is obviously a lot cheaper than the other..

Start cheap, move towards expensive...
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:44 PM   #10
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Thanks a lot. Ill give it a shot.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:20 PM   #11
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Went to a specialist yesterday and they told me it was my clutch. The throwing bearing is going out along with the rest of my clutch since it was slipping. Hopefully that'll be it.
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Went to a specialist yesterday and they told me it was my clutch. The throwing bearing is going out along with the rest of my clutch since it was slipping. Hopefully that'll be it.
How did they check the clutch? I thought you would have to take apart the whole tranny pretty much to get to those bearings since they are enclosed inside O.o??
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:41 PM   #13
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He pretty much drove it around, listen to where the sounds coming from. I guess it's a some what common issue. I think those bearings are a part of the clutch and flywheel? Not sure though but he didn't mention anything about opening up the transmission.
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He pretty much drove it around, listen to where the sounds coming from. I guess it's a some what common issue. I think those bearings are a part of the clutch and flywheel? Not sure though but he didn't mention anything about opening up the transmission.
Ohh I see. I have some clutch issues (I think) and I'm trying to figure it out.
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:12 PM   #15
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yea i got the exedy oem clutch replacement on Amazon for like $190 shipped with sales tax included. Just gotta install them. I'll let you know if it fixes the issue.
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yea i got the exedy oem clutch replacement on Amazon for like $190 shipped with sales tax included. Just gotta install them. I'll let you know if it fixes the issue.
The kit comes with pressure plate, disc, throw out bearing and pilot bearing, make sure they ALL get installed and make sure your FW gets resurfaced on a Blanchard grinder NOT a brake lathe (like some shady shops pull)
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:06 AM   #17
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The kit comes with pressure plate, disc, throw out bearing and pilot bearing, make sure they ALL get installed and make sure your FW gets resurfaced on a Blanchard grinder NOT a brake lathe (like some shady shops pull)
Thanks for the heads up. Ill be sure to ask.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:05 PM   #18
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New clutch kit solved all the issues.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:08 AM   #19
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Awesome, congratz
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