Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Thursday March 28, 2024
Home Forums Images WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC General > News & Rumors > Non-Subaru News & Rumors

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.







* As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. 
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads. 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-11-2013, 11:03 AM   #126
Donzo
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 95337
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Putnam/Westchester NY
Vehicle:
2018 WRX Limited

Default

* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Donzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Old 09-11-2013, 11:13 AM   #127
Dex
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 163775
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Somewhere spilling coffee
Vehicle:
2023 BRZ
CWP

Default

Wow, I forgot all about this thing. Funny, when it first showed up we were are like

Now, I gotta admit, it works. It makes the one it replaced look super dull.
Dex is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2013, 11:15 AM   #128
justincredible
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 83633
Join Date: Mar 2005
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: The Mountains
Vehicle:
2012 bright green
box

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Donzo View Post
I don't get it... what's wrong with the video?
The video is fine. Puting articulation in in the title when the car spends the entire video with 1 or more wheels in the air is why I said "Ha!"
justincredible is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2013, 11:22 AM   #129
Donzo
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 95337
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Putnam/Westchester NY
Vehicle:
2018 WRX Limited

Default

Ooooh ok. Then yes, I agree.
Donzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2013, 11:36 AM   #130
quentinberg007
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 7887
Join Date: Jun 2001
Vehicle:
2023 Tangerine
2023 3 Cylinder

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by justincredible View Post
"Articulation" ha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_eH_HnHSpQ
This is video 7 of 10 of the Trailhawk going offroad.

The Cherokee Trailhawk does seem nice as far as CUVs go, but why Jeep is trying to pass this off as an offroader instead of another Compass/Patriot is beyond me.


While it is pretty capable for a CUV, 100% agreed about the "articulation". The Cherokee definitely relies on the computer a ton because it spends very little time with all 4 wheels even having the option of traction.
quentinberg007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2013, 10:02 PM   #131
MikeNH
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 244821
Join Date: Apr 2010
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Michigan
Vehicle:
2011 Chevy Silverado

Default

Came across a M-plated Tailhawk a month or so ago in Ann Arbor. Exterior is ugly as sin- the red tow hooks remind me of ricers who leave track day recovery points in all the time. Interior is sharp looking and I do like seeing the terrain control trickling down to commonly priced models.
MikeNH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2013, 02:30 PM   #132
b4wantab
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 21293
Join Date: Jul 2002
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Oak Park, IL
Vehicle:
05 OB Black Bean
1969 W-30

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by quentinberg007 View Post

The Cherokee definitely relies on the computer a ton because it spends very little time with all 4 wheels even having the option of traction.
AWD is becoming more and more a question of computer controller brakes. As long as it reacts fast enough it will still work.

Peace,

Greg
b4wantab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2013, 08:01 PM   #133
FaastLegacy
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 11671
Join Date: Oct 2001
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Default

No V6? I'd rather have a RAV.
FaastLegacy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2013, 08:50 PM   #134
arghx7
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 232940
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: cold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FaastLegacy View Post
No V6? I'd rather have a RAV.
It has a 3.2 liter V6 available.
arghx7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2013, 11:13 PM   #135
Donzo
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 95337
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Putnam/Westchester NY
Vehicle:
2018 WRX Limited

Default

A fully loaded Trailhawk is close to $40k. That's a few grand more than a fully loaded Forester XT Touring. I'm hesitant to spend that kind of loot on a crossover that may be worth crap in a few years. Especially a new model.

Might be better off with a used Grand Cherokee Limited. Only downside is mpg in GC is 19/24 while Trailhawk is 22/29.
Donzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2013, 10:08 AM   #136
Donzo
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 95337
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Putnam/Westchester NY
Vehicle:
2018 WRX Limited

Default

http://www.cars.com/jeep/cherokee/2014/expert-reviews

Quote:
The release of an all-new Jeep model is not an everyday occurrence. The radical-looking 2014 Cherokee, which replaces the Liberty, has a simple formula: It looks crazy on the outside and upscale on the inside, makes the most of its interior space and has perfectly acceptable on-road performance and mileage.

The fact that a version of the 2014 Jeep Cherokee can handle extreme off-roading is a bonus, but everyday drivers will find the well-rounded new model a tough crossover to pass over.

For a photo gallery, click here.

While the Cherokee's price puts it up against the entire compact crossover class, at 182 inches in length it's sized between the likes of Honda's CR-V and Ford's Escape, both of which come in at roughly 178 inches in length, and Chevrolet's Equinox, at 187.8 inches. See the Cherokee compared side-by-side against key competitors here.
Performance

During a day of testing, I drove the new Cherokee on twisty mountain roads and pockmarked streets, as well as a brief highway stint, and it performed about as well as any SUV in the class. Sandwiched between that testing were a few hours of slow-speed rock-climbing and off-road trails in Moab, Utah, renowned for its adventurous terrain.

There are two engine options: the standard 184-horsepower, 2.4-liter four-cylinder and an optional 271-hp, 3.2-liter V-6. Both are teamed to a nine-speed automatic transmission, a first for Jeep and its Chrysler parent.

I tested both in a variety of trim levels and found the 2.4-liter to be competent but a bit slow, while the V-6 was impressive and had me pushing it as fast as allowable.

Unfortunately, it will be the four-cylinder that most shoppers settle on. I was able to test the engine only in the off-road-focused Trailhawk trim level, which is the worst-case scenario for acceleration. The Trailhawk's extra equipment adds significant weight, even compared with an all-wheel-drive non-Trailhawk trim, let alone a front-wheel-drive model.

Weight was definitely an issue during my test on surface streets. The four-cylinder Trailhawk lumbered from a dead stop and had trouble accelerating up inclines, uttering unpalatable groans as it went. At highway speeds, however, passing maneuvers were adequate, and the Cherokee didn't seem underpowered.

The V-6 is another story entirely. The Trailhawk V-6 accelerated through the mountains with little struggle, kicking down a gear aggressively when needed, and didn't make me think the added all-wheel drive and off-road equipment was a hindrance.

Once I shed the Trailhawk's heavy equipment for a Limited and its simpler all-wheel drive, low-rolling-resistance tires and lower ride height, the V-6 Cherokee felt like a different car - sporty and exceptionally fast on the open road.

The nine-speed transmission felt relatively ordinary, certainly not extraordinary versus a continuously variable transmission or more common six-speed automatic. Shifts weren't whip fast in the four-cylinder model, and with the V-6 I wasn't able to shift among the higher gears manually. Jeep representatives say that the manual feature only allows for shifts within a threshold of maximum efficiency.

All versions of the Cherokee I tested handled well in corners, with crisp steering. There was some body lean on the tightest corners, but nothing beyond what the rest of this class exhibits in similar scenarios.

The Cherokee is nevertheless heavier than most other compacts by 200 pounds in some cases; it is nearly 100 pounds lighter than the Equinox.

So while the four-cylinder engine's specs compare favorably with smaller crossovers, it is definitely at a disadvantage due to its weight. The four-cylinder Equinox similarly lacks thrills in the acceleration department.

Fuel ratings for the entire Cherokee lineup have not been released yet, but the all-wheel-drive version of the four-cylinder is rated at 21 mpg city, 28 mpg highway and 24 mpg combined. Those numbers come in behind all-wheel-drive versions of the CR-V, Subaru Forester and RAV4 but ahead of the Equinox.

There aren't many V-6 options in the class, and the Cherokee surpasses the Chevy with a more fun-to-drive experience; it's neck and neck with the Escape's sprightly, turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder.

All-wheel-drive versions of the V-6 Cherokee are rated at 19 mpg city, 27 mpg highway and 22 mpg combined. Again, that bests the V-6 version of the Equinox while coming in behind the turbocharged four-cylinder options of the Escape and Forester.
Off-Road Performance

This being a new Jeep, the company wanted to make sure journalists put the Trail Rated Trailhawk version through a trail worthy of the badge. That we did.

I took both the four-cylinder and V-6 Trailhawks through more than an hour of trails made of sand, rock and obscenely large rocks that were unlike any off-roading I had done before. Incline grades of well more than 30 degrees were common, and the Trailhawk handled them just fine as long as I exhibited deft control of the accelerator.

There aren't rock rails on the Trailhawk, which would add even more weight, and a few "crunches" were heard. They can be added as a dealer accessory. Some journalists' vehicles showed slight signs of damage along the front lower bumper.

The fact that an automaker's vehicles can take on such challenges to earn a "trail rating" isn't that significant. It's when a relatively untrained driver can step into a Cherokee Trailhawk, drive it for just an hour or so on the road and then simply take it up the side of a giant boulder without any alteration to the vehicle, even tire pressure, that I sit in awe.

The Cherokee is available with three all-wheel-drive systems (which Jeep calls 4x4 in traditional fashion): Jeep Active Drive I, Jeep Active Drive II and Jeep Active Drive Lock for the Trailhawk models. All three feature selectable terrain modes, and the Active Drive Lock adds more modes for off-road situations, like sand and rock.

It's likely that serious off-roaders will still frown upon the Cherokee. They see nothing wrong with the Wrangler and its even more capable nature. The Trailhawk Cherokee will likely be sold to outdoorsy types looking for a little extra capability. And let's be honest; some people are going to buy it just for the looks.
Interior

There's no denying the Cherokee is a polarizing car to look at from the outside. It has stirred debate on our site for months. But inside there's nothing that should cause controversy.

If anything, the Cherokee's interior is perhaps Chrysler's best-executed one to date. The materials in even the second-tier Latitude trim level were top-notch for the class. The look and padding of the dash are beyond what you find in a Honda CR-V or Toyota RAV4, while the overall design of the interior is stylish instead of rugged.

Touches of metallic flash exude luxury, and in fact nothing inside really speaks to this being a Jeep in the traditional sense. There was no attempt to make the inside look like it belongs in a military vehicle.

Beyond the design, the seats are comfortable, the backseat roomy for the class at 40.3 inches of rear legroom, and all the controls are laid out in the straightforward fashion we've come to appreciate in other new Chrysler products, like the Dodge Dart and the latest Jeep Grand Cherokee.
Cargo

Where the Cherokee comes up short against the competition is in cargo space. Even with the sliding second row moved to its forward-most position, cargo volume is rated at 29.7 cubic feet. That's less than the Equinox, at 31.5 cubic feet, as well as the Subaru Forester at 33.5, Escape at 34.3, CR-V at 37.2 and RAV4 at 38.4 cubic feet.

With the rear 60/40-split seats folded, the Cherokee's cargo volume extends to 54.9 cubic feet, again slightly behind the Equinox, at 63.7 cubic feet, but farther behind the rest of the field.

I still think most shoppers will find the cargo area spacious enough for most needs, and there is enough space for a full-size spare tire under the floor on Trailhawk models. The 4x4 versions of the other trims get a compact spare, while the rest get a large storage compartment underneath along with a tire inflator kit.

There's also a standard cargo management system that features a rail installed on the side of the cargo area that serves as an attachment point for hooks and other items shoppers can buy through the dealer, like removable grocery bags, a cargo bin, a cooler, a first aid kit and an off-road accessory kit for Trailhawk models.

I'm not sure many people will take advantage of this system, but I have de facto "storage" bags in my own wagons at home that prove invaluable. The Cherokee's look much nicer.
Features & Pricing

The 2014 Cherokee comes relatively well-equipped at a starting price of $23,990, including destination, for the 4x2 and $25,990 for the 4x4. That gets you the base Sport trim with cloth seats and 17-inch steel wheels, as well as a six-speaker stereo with a 5-inch touch-screen, Bluetooth and USB.

Most buyers will opt for the Latitude model, which is next up the chain at $25,490 and adds more content. The Limited has even more convenience features, while the Trailhawk is the "performance" model. You can see a detailed explanation of features and trim prices here.
Safety

As an all-new model, the Cherokee has not yet been crash-tested by either the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety or the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

The Cherokee comes with 10 standard airbags including driver and front passenger knee bolster airbags. The rear seats also have side, seat-mounted airbags as well as curtain airbags.

There are a number of optional active safety systems, like lane departure warning, forward collision warning, blind spot monitoring and rear cross-path detection.
Cherokee in the Market

The ability of the Cherokee to scale a small mountain/very large boulder won't be tested every day, but it does cement the slick crossover as a Jeep in capability as well as in name.

Ignore that ability, and you're still left with one of the most competitive crossovers on the market in terms of price and features. We'll see how many people fall for the looks, because that's one of the few X factors on one well-executed car.

Vehicle Overview

The 2014 Cherokee marks the return of a mothballed name for an all-new SUV that replaces the discontinued Jeep Liberty. The Cherokee is, at maximum, 265 pounds lighter, and it's expected to be up to 45 percent more efficient than the Liberty, which was a guzzler to a degree few SUVs match anymore.

Along with staggering new styling, the Cherokee introduces major new hardware: a nine-speed automatic transmission and a smaller version of the Pentastar V-6 that powers many Jeep, Chrysler and Dodge models.

As a true off-roader, the Cherokee arguably competes with models like the Nissan Xterra, Toyota FJ Cruiser and 4Runner, as well as crossovers like the Chevrolet Equinox and Subaru Outback.

Exterior
Automakers tend to choose evolution or revolution when they introduce or redesign models, and this Cherokee qualifies as a revolution. Apart from the seven-slot grille, not much resembles either the boxy or rounded models Jeep also produces. The Cherokee is distinguished by high-mounted running lights atop the fenders. The headlights reside just above the bumper.

The Cherokee's trim levels include Sport, Latitude, Limited and Trailhawk. On all Cherokees, gray molding runs from the lower bumpers along the wheel arches and rocker panels. In the Trailhawk, which is the off-road-optimized "Trail Rated" version, the molding is more prominent, and the front and rear bumpers hold tighter to the body to increase the Cherokee's approach and departure angles. It has front and rear skid plates, and its ride height is raised 1 inch for a running ground clearance of 8.7 inches. The Trailhawk eliminates chrome and adds red tow hooks to the front bumper.

Wheel selections begin with 17-inch steel on the Sport and 17- or 18- inch aluminum rims on the middle trim levels. The Trailhawk comes with wider 17-inch wheels and all-terrain tires.

Interior
The Cherokee's modern design theme carries over to the cabin, which has room for five people in two rows of seats. Cloth upholstery is standard; Nappa leather is available. Heated and ventilated front seats and a heated steering wheel are also available. The 60/40-split folding backseat can slide forward or rearward to benefit passenger or cargo room. With the backseat in its fully forward position there's 29.7 cubic feet of cargo room, which is a little less than some compact crossovers offer. Jeep calls the Cherokee midsize, but it's not much roomier than Jeep's own compact Compass and Patriot.

Jeep offers as optional features a choice of a panoramic glass moonroof or a full-length power-sliding canvas roof.

Optional features include a wireless charging pad for portable devices, a reconfigurable 7-inch screen in the instrument panel, an 8.4-inch touch-screen entertainment system in the middle of the dashboard and a self-parking system that automatically steers the Cherokee into a parking space while the driver controls vehicle speed. Enhanced adaptive cruise control can bring the Cherokee to a complete stop if traffic necessitates.

Under the Hood
The Cherokee's base engine is a 2.4-liter four-cylinder that makes 184 horsepower and 171 pounds-feet of torque. Finding its first home in the new Cherokee is an optional 3.2-liter V-6, a smaller version of the Chrysler group's ubiquitous 3.6-liter V-6. The new V-6 makes nearly as much power as its larger sibling: 271 hp versus 290 hp for the 3.6-liter V-6 in the Grand Cherokee, and 239 pounds-feet of torque instead of 260. Both engines work with a nine-speed automatic transmission, and models with the 2.4-liter four-cylinder get an estimated 31 mpg on the highway according to Jeep (complete EPA fuel economy estimates haven't been released as of publication).

Front-wheel drive is standard but three four-wheel-drive systems are offered. Jeep Active Drive I has a single-speed transfer case while Jeep Active Drive II has a two-speed transfer case with low range. It locks the front and rear axles together for a 50/50 split. The most capable system, Jeep Active Drive Lock - which is standard on Trailhawk - is a low-range system with a locking rear differential. The maximum crawl ratio, with the four-cylinder, is 56:1.

The four-wheel-drive systems incorporate Selec-Terrain, which has five selectable modes like Snow and Sand/Mud, to make it easy to match the drivetrain's responses to driving conditions.

Safety
Standard safety features include 10 airbags, antilock brakes and an electronic stability system. Optional active-safety provisions include enhanced forward collision warning, which readies the brakes and emits audible and visual warnings when a crash is possible. If the driver doesn't react, the system can tap the brakes to warn the driver and supplement the driver's braking effort.
Donzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2013, 10:24 AM   #137
Donzo
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 95337
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Putnam/Westchester NY
Vehicle:
2018 WRX Limited

Default

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...breakdown.html

2014 Jeep Cherokee: Trim Level Breakdown



Prices for the all-new Jeep Cherokee were recently released, highlighting its competitive place in the segment when it goes on sale later this summer.

The crossover is similar in size to the Chevrolet Equinox. That makes it larger than the Honda CR-V and Toyota RAV4s of the world, but smaller than midsizers like the Ford Edge and Jeep Grand Cherokee. It's priced similarly to the smaller crossovers as well.

Like most new models of any stripe introduced lately, there's a fair amount of standard equipment on base Cherokees. However, base Cherokees will have items like black door handles and side mirrors that could force many to move up a grade.

Find out what each trim level delivers for the price below. All prices include a $995 destination fee.



*Jeep Cherokee Sport 4x2: $23,990
*Jeep Cherokee Sport 4x4: $25,990

Basics:
The Sport comes with a 184-horsepower, 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine, nine-speed automatic transmission, 17-inch steel wheels, cloth seats, height adjustment, power windows with one-touch down for driver, armrest, cruise control, vanity mirrors with lights and those black door handles and side mirrors.

Interior & Tech: A six-speaker stereo is standard along with Chrysler's Uconnect system with a 5-inch touch-screen, Bluetooth connectivity, USB input and SD card reader.

Misc: LED running lights in front and taillights in back are also standard. A cargo management system with a tote is an unusual standard item included in base Cherokees.

Options: You need to pay extra for a backup camera, 17-inch alloy wheels and Cold Weather or Trailer-tow packages.



*Jeep Cherokee Latitude 4x2: $25,490
*Jeep Cherokee Latitude 4x4: $27,490

Basics:
You get everything from the Sport model plus niceties like body-colored side mirrors and door handles. Roof rails, tinted glass, fog lamps, 17-inch aluminum wheels and a compact spare tire are also lumped into the Latitude grade.

Interior & Tech: A leather-wrapped steering wheel and ambient LED interior lighting liven up the interior.

Misc: The nifty in-seat storage compartment found in other Chrysler vehicles is also included in the Latitude's fold-flat front passenger seat.

Options: More power can be added to the Latitude with the optional 271-hp, 3.2-liter V-6. Other options include an upgraded multimedia system with an 8.4-inch touch-screen and a 506-watt nine-speaker stereo with a subwoofer. A panoramic sunroof and the Cold Weather, Comfort/Convenience and Trailer-tow packages also will cost extra.



*Jeep Cherokee Limited 4x2: $28,990
*Jeep Cherokee Limited 4x4: $30,990

Basics:
The Limited is the high-end version, so standard equipment includes everything from the Latitude plus heated power leather seats, a heated steering wheel, 18-inch aluminum wheels, automatic headlamps and dual-zone climate control.

Interior & Tech: Keyless entry and push-button start, 7-inch digital gauge cluster, 8.4-inch touch-screen stereo with six speakers, a backup camera and remote start are a healthy group of features for this amount of money.

Misc: Puddle lamps, auto-dim rearview mirror, universal garage door opener and even a cargo net are nice to have, too.

Options: The Limited trim's available features are similar to the Latitude's offerings in almost all respects, including the optional 3.2-liter V-6. Navigation can be added to the standard 8.4-inch touch-screen as can the 506-watt nine-speaker stereo with a subwoofer. A panoramic sunroof and Cold Weather, Comfort/Convenience and Trailer-tow packages will still cost extra.



Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk 4x4: $30,490

Basics: The Trailhawk is an off-road trim level that adds equipment to the Latitude list, but not the Limited model. Standard items for off-roading enthusiasts include a 4x4 system, off-road wheel flares, red tow hooks, skid plates, off-road suspension, a 1-inch increase in ride height, heavy-duty engine cooling, hill start assist and hill descent control, 17-inch aluminum wheels with black pockets and all-terrain tires.

Interior & Tech: A leather-trimmed cloth interior, 7-inch digital gauge cluster, 8.4-inch touch-screen stereo with six speakers, backup camera and remote start aren't forgotten.

Misc: Because the Trailhawk is for off-roading, Jeep revised the front and rear bumpers to allow for more aggressive approach and departure angles of 29.8 and 32.1 degrees, respectively. Total ground clearance is 8.7 inches.

Options: Extras are the same as the Limited's offerings with the optional 3.2-liter V-6. Navigation can be added to the standard 8.4-inch touch-screen as can the 506-watt nine-speaker stereo with a subwoofer. A panoramic sunroof and Cold Weather, Comfort/Convenience and Trailer-tow packages will still cost extra. The matte black hood decal you've seen in many photos is also an added extra. And if you like to off-road in style, there's a Leather Interior options package.
Donzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2013, 08:45 PM   #138
79letour
*** Banned ***
 
Member#: 302570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: dear old dixie
Vehicle:
2013 XV
DGM!

Default

Oh my God. What horror...
79letour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2013, 10:18 AM   #139
SCRAPPYDO
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 873
Join Date: Feb 2000
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: www.testdrivemylife.com
Vehicle:
2020 JEEP / RAM
Datsun 71 240Z & 68 2000

Default

I still think it is pretty cool
SCRAPPYDO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2013, 10:35 AM   #140
FaastLegacy
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 11671
Join Date: Oct 2001
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Default

I like it better than the Crosstrek and people around here seem to go gaga over those.
FaastLegacy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2013, 10:45 AM   #141
79letour
*** Banned ***
 
Member#: 302570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: dear old dixie
Vehicle:
2013 XV
DGM!

Default

While I do like my XV, my old 89' Cherokee with 4.0 was sold with 400,000 miles on it and still running. It was a damn nice little 4x4. This new fwd-based thing, well, its just sad. I've had way more jeeps than subaru's, but it looks like Jeep are just digging their own grave to me.
79letour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2013, 09:45 PM   #142
MikeNH
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 244821
Join Date: Apr 2010
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Michigan
Vehicle:
2011 Chevy Silverado

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FaastLegacy View Post
No V6? I'd rather have a RAV.
They dropped the V6. It's just another useless mom mobile now.
MikeNH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2013, 10:42 PM   #143
The Duke
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 264877
Join Date: Nov 2010
Default

Initially I thought it was absolutely horrendous, however a few months later I acutally think it looks pretty good (mostly the TrailHawk).

I've learned to give new cars a few months to sink in before I judge. Especially any exposure in person usually helps.
The Duke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2013, 09:01 PM   #144
corvid
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 300097
Join Date: Nov 2011
Default

it looks like milhouse without his glasses


corvid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2013, 09:04 PM   #145
wrx2ndregime
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 86707
Join Date: May 2005
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Bradenton, FL
Vehicle:
2012 WRX
DGM

Default

Return of Aztec
wrx2ndregime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2013, 10:12 PM   #146
Donzo
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 95337
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Putnam/Westchester NY
Vehicle:
2018 WRX Limited

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeNH View Post
They dropped the V6. It's just another useless mom mobile now.
Where did you hear this?
Donzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2013, 11:29 PM   #147
shikataganai
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 92634
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Donzo View Post

Where did you hear this?
Toyota.com
shikataganai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2013, 03:41 PM   #148
4S-TURBO
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 67807
Join Date: Aug 2004
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Default

Hoping for stonking fast SRT version for under $40K. Especially if it tows 4500 lbs and has some sort of torque vectoring in the rear! Give me that, JEEEEP!
4S-TURBO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2013, 05:37 PM   #149
Donzo
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 95337
Join Date: Sep 2005
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Putnam/Westchester NY
Vehicle:
2018 WRX Limited

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shikataganai View Post
Toyota.com
Oh ok. Thought you meant the Jeep. Carry on.
Donzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2013, 04:40 PM   #150
denskies
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 260554
Join Date: Oct 2010
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: austin, texas
Vehicle:
2013 XV Crosstrek
Tangerine Orange Pearl

Default

This isn't even a Dodge. Its a F*cking Fiat(literally)...... I was very interested in the trailhawk when they announced it until I did the proper research and found that this isn't even close to being a "real jeep". I have to say its so ugly that its awesome looking though.
denskies is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2024 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2019, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.

As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.

When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission
Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.