Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Thursday March 28, 2024
Home Forums Images WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Miscellaneous > Off-Topic

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.







* As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. 
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads. 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-26-2003, 09:32 PM   #1
FunkerVogt
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 4585
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Northern NJ
Question Cosmetic Surgery vs. Therapy

Most of us want to look our best and that is usually a healthy thing. But obviously, some people take it way too far and get virtually every possible alteration know to man, done, in an attempt to become something that they really aren't.

As an example, many women today get breast implants simply because they think it will make them look better. But just thirty years ago, this wasn't possible. Does this mean that women in the 70's and before led tortured lives where they constanty were wishing for bigger boobs? I'd imagine that at some point in their lives, they would come to terms with the fact that they have what they have and that's that. And I think that is a good thing; to be able to accept yourself and your body for what it is.

Today, girls younger than 20 are getting breast implants. How well do they know themselves at that emotionally vulnerable age that they are making this decision? How many girls at that young age actually are happy with their bodies?

And it's not just women. Even worse are guys that get pec or calf implants, to 'beef' up their physique. For the love of God, go to the gym and eat right. Worse yet, is anyone that even thinks of getting a butt implant. Yes, this may well be the new fad, as thick booties shaking in videos grow exponentially, thus giving women a new physical trait to obsess over.

Personally, I can understand minor cosmetic surgery; say getting some wrinkles removed, hair removal, mole removal, etc. But when it comes to the point where you are putting things inside of your body to try to give it the appearance of a body you don't have, I think this might sometimes point to deep rooted insecurities that are the real problem.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
FunkerVogt is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Old 05-26-2003, 09:36 PM   #2
INTEGRAtoWRX
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 13931
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Ohio
Vehicle:
02 WRX
13 Boss 302

Default

You probably just saw that show True Life on MTV huh? It was just on about plastic surgery. I don't really agree with it either...... but my friend has fake boobies and they are absolutely perfect. Se said now she doesn't like the attention she gets from them really
INTEGRAtoWRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 09:43 PM   #3
awdity
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 27761
Join Date: Oct 2002
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: Sacramento, CA
Vehicle:
'08 kia rondo
olive oil silver

Default

I must admit that I was contemplating getting breast implants, but more for practical reasons then cosmetic. Damn boobs are stuck between cup sizes. Finding a bra SUCKS. I decided against it because it's just not worth the risk or the money.

I really don't understand the people that get addicted to it. Look at Lisa Rinna and her humongo lips. And Melanie Griffith looks so taut she hurts to look at. My favorite has to be the lion lady:



This was her before:

awdity is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 09:45 PM   #4
WRX-78
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 13300
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Moncton, NB, Canada
Vehicle:
2015 WRX
World Rally Blue

Default

Think of it as ricing out your body. It's just fo dekorashun!

P.S. I like bewbies. silicon, salene, or otherwise.
WRX-78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 09:45 PM   #5
FunkerVogt
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 4585
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Northern NJ
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by INTEGRAtoWRX
You probably just saw that show True Life on MTV huh? It was just on about plastic surgery. I don't really agree with it either...... but my friend has fake boobies and they are absolutely perfect. Se said now she doesn't like the attention she gets from them really
Actually no, though I have seen it in the past.
FunkerVogt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 09:52 PM   #6
nt5k
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 7933
Join Date: Jun 2001
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Vehicle:
2015 STI
DGM

Default

Quote:
Originally posted by WRX-78
Think of it as ricing out your body. It's just fo dekorashun!

P.S. I like bewbies. silicon, salene, or otherwise.
So true..

Cosmetics are like mods.. Theraphy is like driver school..
nt5k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 09:54 PM   #7
DubuRX girl
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 36096
Join Date: Apr 2003
Default

like everything else it is about moderation. it is your body and your choice. the self image issue i am sure does not go away after the surgery, i would guess that once one "flaw" is corrected your focus would move to something else. At that point it becomes an obession and you could turn into the freak above.
the whole thing scares me

sara
DubuRX girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 09:54 PM   #8
STiTuner
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5778
Join Date: Apr 2001
Chapter/Region: South East
Vehicle:
09 135i
Jet Black

Default

I personally think that plastic surgery may have become a little too.... available.

for certain things I think its a miracle, its refreshing to know that if you get into an accident or a dog gnaws the side of your face off. there is something people can do so you can lead a normal life. or another acceptable reason would be breast augmentation for those with breast cancer

however there are some perfectly gorgeous girls that go out and have it done for nothing or just because they don't feel comfortable with themselves. Its deffinatly overdone in some cases. Some people who opt for it really DON'T NEED it. I think there is something to be said for those who nit pick the size/shape of their nose or breasts.

I think that alot of sex appeal is not so much just in how you look but how you carry yourself and how well you maintain what you already have.

If you need new breast to fell better about yourself then you're using it as a crutch... personally I don't see how that is healthy.

Brad
STiTuner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 09:55 PM   #9
FunkerVogt
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 4585
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Northern NJ
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by WRX-78
Think of it as ricing out your body. It's just fo dekorashun!

And both usually look totally tacky. Notice how fake boobs just don't really move? Blech. Spaced too far apart, hang from under the armpit, don't feel soft, etc. You just can't replace the real thing. It's like trying to replace wine with carbonated Hi-C.
FunkerVogt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 09:58 PM   #10
DubuRX girl
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 36096
Join Date: Apr 2003
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by FunkerVogt


And both usually look totally tacky. Notice how fake boobs just don't really move? Blech. Spaced too far apart, hang from under the armpit, don't feel soft, etc. You just can't replace the real thing. It's like trying to replace wine with carbonated Hi-C.
when you are thirsty, Hi-C is damn good
DubuRX girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 09:59 PM   #11
FunkerVogt
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 4585
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Northern NJ
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by DubuRX girl
like everything else it is about moderation. it is your body and your choice. the self image issue i am sure does not go away after the surgery, i would guess that once one "flaw" is corrected your focus would move to something else. At that point it becomes an obession and you could turn into the freak above.
the whole thing scares me

sara
I agree that it is your body, your choice. But, I suppose I wonder why our society has gotten to the point where so many people are willing to dish out huge sums of money and endure the risk of surgery just for boobs, pec implants, or even a butt!

As StiTuner said, if you were mauled or injured, it makes sense so that you can continue to lead a normal life. But to just go do it because it's the "in" thing or because you think you will be a happier person is kind of short sighted. No matter how good you may think you look, if you're an insecure person, you will remain one regardless of plastic surgery.
FunkerVogt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 10:00 PM   #12
FunkerVogt
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 4585
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Northern NJ
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by DubuRX girl


when you are thirsty, Hi-C is damn good
True, but you can't fool anyone into thinking that Hi-C is wine.
FunkerVogt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 10:02 PM   #13
Brad Pittiful
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 34931
Join Date: Apr 2003
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Eagles are ****ing
Vehicle:
. Super bowl LII
Champions!

Default

i dont like fake boobs...i think chicks with fake boobs look better with clothes on...ill take small boobs any day over big fake ones...overall plastic surgery is great for injuries or birth defects
Brad Pittiful is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 10:03 PM   #14
Handsdown
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 29355
Join Date: Nov 2002
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: seattle
Default

i wasn't aware cosmetic therapy was an option...

"Doctor, I'm crazy"
"Doctor, I'm ugly!"
Handsdown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 10:04 PM   #15
FunkerVogt
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 4585
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Northern NJ
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Brad Pittiful
i dont like fake boobs...i think chicks with fake boobs look better with clothes on...ill take small boobs any day over big fake ones...
I agree on both points. And seriously, fake boobs look nice under clothes, but once you whip those Frankentits out...BLECH!!!
FunkerVogt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 10:09 PM   #16
DubuRX girl
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 36096
Join Date: Apr 2003
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by FunkerVogt


I agree that it is your body, your choice. But, I suppose I wonder why our society has gotten to the point where so many people are willing to dish out huge sums of money and endure the risk of surgery just for boobs, pec implants, or even a butt!

As StiTuner said, if you were mauled or injured, it makes sense so that you can continue to lead a normal life. But to just go do it because it's the "in" thing or because you think you will be a happier person is kind of short sighted. No matter how good you may think you look, if you're an insecure person, you will remain one regardless of plastic surgery.

Spend some time in OT as a girl and it will explain it all. I male NASIOC member actually posted one time that "bulemia is a gift". Your only worth in this country is wether or not a boy will hold up a "I'd hit it" sign. Enless you are a girl you have no idea what we deal with on a daily basis. Like most girls i have contemplated surgery due to the lack of acceptance in this country. The men in this country are turning beautiful natural women into nasty fake creations.
DubuRX girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 10:11 PM   #17
FunkerVogt
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 4585
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Northern NJ
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by DubuRX girl



Spend some time in OT as a girl and it will explain it all. I male NASIOC member actually posted one time that "bulemia is a gift". Your only worth in this country is wether or not a boy will hold up a "I'd hit it" sign. Enless you are a girl you have no idea what we deal with on a daily basis. Like most girls i have contemplated surgery due to the lack of acceptance in this country. The men in this country are turning beautiful natural women into nasty fake creations.
Well, have some faith. There are guys that do like natural women. Any OT guy that is in the GPSW will agree.

But yes, I hear the same thing over and over from women. While it is a shame that many men have such a narrow definition of beauty, all I can say is stop basing your self-worth on what men think of you.

Women don't need men for much other than families anymore. And when it comes time that you want a man for a family, you don't want one that will only love you with fake tits and a facelift.
FunkerVogt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 10:15 PM   #18
MattSEG
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 4603
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region: SWIC
Location: albuquerque
Vehicle:
2004 Lexyota LC470
black as my heart

Default

I really don't see anything wrong with it.
If it makes someone feel better, great. Be it an actual, or perceived flaw, if it mends their insecurity, big or small, it will help them let go of that insecurity and feel better. If you feel better about yourself, you will live a more complete life.

If my ears stuck out a lil bit, and I wanted to get that fixed, and by getting it fixed I would think people would take me more seriously, then why shouldn't it be ok for me to do that? If it helps me act as a more confident person, and opens me to be that much more...what is wrong with that?

-Matt
MattSEG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 10:21 PM   #19
STiTuner
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5778
Join Date: Apr 2001
Chapter/Region: South East
Vehicle:
09 135i
Jet Black

Default

Quote:
Originally posted by DubuRX girl



Spend some time in OT as a girl and it will explain it all. I male NASIOC member actually posted one time that "bulemia is a gift". Your only worth in this country is wether or not a boy will hold up a "I'd hit it" sign. Enless you are a girl you have no idea what we deal with on a daily basis. Like most girls i have contemplated surgery due to the lack of acceptance in this country. The men in this country are turning beautiful natural women into nasty fake creations.
touche'

HOWEVER the other side of the coin.

Lots of women ASSUME that all men like 1 particual body type, or are only interested in certain features, or certain styles. Women do this to their own demise. Atl least thats what I sort of understood at college.

All of the girls were flocking to and competing over the "cool" people, ie frat guys. If one of the girls was not excepted by the frat boy then she would get all depressed and think "god I'm ugly" when there were plenty of other guys who would tell her (and mean it) on a daily basis that she was beautiful. Perhaps though those were not the guys she would consider attractive though....

most women of certain backgrounds tend to flock towards a group of guys who is much less forgiving then other groups. As a sign of their own superficiality?
STiTuner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 10:22 PM   #20
DubuRX girl
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 36096
Join Date: Apr 2003
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by FunkerVogt


Well, have some faith. There are guys that do like natural women. Any OT guy that is in the GPSW will agree.

But yes, I hear the same thing over and over from women. While it is a shame that many men have such a narrow definition of beauty, all I can say is stop basing your self-worth on what men think of you.

Women don't need men for much other than families anymore. And when it comes time that you want a man for a family, you don't want one that will only love you with fake tits and a facelift.
it's nice to know that real men are out there. i have much respect for you.
DubuRX girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 10:24 PM   #21
FunkerVogt
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 4585
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Northern NJ
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by MattSEG
I really don't see anything wrong with it.
If it makes someone feel better, great. Be it an actual, or perceived flaw, if it mends their insecurity, big or small, it will help them let go of that insecurity and feel better. If you feel better about yourself, you will live a more complete life.

If my ears stuck out a lil bit, and I wanted to get that fixed, and by getting it fixed I would think people would take me more seriously, then why shouldn't it be ok for me to do that? If it helps me act as a more confident person, and opens me to be that much more...what is wrong with that?

-Matt
But does it really mend anything if what you are 'fixing' is not perceived to be a flaw by other people in the first place?

I think everyone would agree that dumbo ears might very well be a hard thing to live with. But I don't think that most people would see small boobs as a flaw.

As I stated earlier, there seems to me to be a line between what is reasonable and what is excessive. If a woman sees small boobs as a flaw, why does she see it that way?? Most likely, it's due to an external influence and not an innate disposition.

On the other hand, getting a few wrinkles removed is understandable. We all age, and although we say things like 'age gracefully' we don't really want to get old. Getting older is just a reminder of our mortality, and who wants that?
FunkerVogt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 10:28 PM   #22
Thumper23
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 11571
Join Date: Oct 2001
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: Park City, UT
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by STiTuner

Perhaps though those were not the guys she would consider attractive though....

most women of certain backgrounds tend to flock towards a group of guys who is much less forgiving then other groups. As a sign of their own superficiality?
nail on head

but this is the same for both sexes
Thumper23 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 10:28 PM   #23
WRX-78
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 13300
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Moncton, NB, Canada
Vehicle:
2015 WRX
World Rally Blue

Default

Is it ok if I insist that my girl get cosmetic surgery? Cause I think she looks kinda plain without it. Hell I've already spent a few grand on her!

I mean she looks alright and everything. When I first saw her I was attracted to her round eyes. Truth be told she has grown on me a lot. But in reality she's soooooo much better looking now.







...and by my girl I mean my car.
WRX-78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 10:31 PM   #24
DubuRX girl
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 36096
Join Date: Apr 2003
Default

check out the HOT CHICKS thread and you will see why the chick with small b00bs sees that as a problem
DubuRX girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2003, 10:33 PM   #25
FunkerVogt
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 4585
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Northern NJ
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by DubuRX girl
check out the HOT CHICKS thread and you will see why the chick with small b00bs sees that as a problem
I saw plenty of small chested women in that thread, especially small chested Asian girls.

But yes, often what is portrayed as 'hot' is a big titted, yet otherwise quite thin woman. Which is of course not at all common without breast implants.

Besides, ask most men what cup size they prefer, and it's likely they will a B or C. And this is what really confuses me, when a skinny, naturally small chested woman does get implants; instead of getting a B or C cup which might look somewhat natural onher, they go and get D or larger implants that just look comical.
FunkerVogt is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
OT men: what cosmetic surgery would you take if offered for FREE edkwon Off-Topic 41 03-25-2009 01:59 PM
when taking cosmetic surgery into your own hands goes dreadfully wrong nhat Off-Topic 37 11-13-2008 12:42 PM
Cheerleader dies after cosmetic surgery banman Off-Topic 85 03-26-2008 07:43 PM
Oral cosmetic surgery question...... The_Triton Off-Topic 5 06-03-2004 11:00 AM
WRX cosmetic surgery....Muwahahahaha ResQDawg3 Interior & Exterior Modification 8 04-20-2003 10:34 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:49 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2024 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2019, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.

As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.

When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission
Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.