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12-02-2010, 09:04 PM | #1826 |
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hey wayne I do not believe you have to anodize it for e85 since it is not as corrosive as some think now if you were running methanol then that would be another thing in itself.Also as cold as it is in canada right now I would run the stock heat range and switch to 1 colder when it gets to be warm(spring,summer) again.I believe driveability will be better in the winter with stock heat range.
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12-02-2010, 11:29 PM | #1827 |
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I wanna be part of the group!! Probably the only non-turbo running E85.
'97 Legacy L Engine- 2.5L/2.2L hybrid Compression- 11.3:1 Injector- '05 Sti sidefeed Pump- Walbro Plugs- NGK BKR5E Parallel fuel rail mod with stock FPR on each rail. No dyno yet. |
12-03-2010, 12:57 AM | #1828 |
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Can we include E100 cars in here. I have a car right now in Brazil that I am doing. If his stock clutch survives I'd like to throw up info on the car as well as fueling info since not many on her have dealt with this type of fuel. -Mikey |
12-03-2010, 08:14 AM | #1829 |
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^I'd be interested in the specifics. Do they add anything to the fuel to help with lubrication?
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12-03-2010, 08:30 AM | #1830 |
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"Compression- 11.3:1" whoa! for my e-85 conversion. new pump on the market. http://www.jayracing.com/index.php?m...oducts_id=2619 one pump for id 1000's, how would it hold up to say 1600's. i want to get bigger injectors, but don't think i need to go to id 2000's. i may step up to a 35r from the 30r. i haven't ruled a 40r out, but my car is 80% street car. when i say street, its more steet light to street light, not exit to exit. i drag the car, but may get into rally x next year, if i ever get another job. |
12-03-2010, 09:09 AM | #1831 |
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^I'll plug it into my injector spreadsheet and post back with the results a little later today.
I wish they would have included their amperage draw into that graphic so I could see exactly how much it draws to see how the stock fuel pump controller would handle it. What ended up happening with your car? |
12-03-2010, 10:03 AM | #1832 |
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Yeah dude, I need to update the first page of this thread, I been too lazy
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12-03-2010, 10:19 AM | #1833 |
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It'd also be nice if they would have done 3.5, 4.5, and maybe more pressures too...
But anyways, here's the data of fuel pump flow vs. ID1000 flow but first a few notes: *The ID1000 flow ratings have been disputed by many people, so if they really flow less than what Injector dynamics published then these fuel pumps will keep up with these injectors a little better than what is filled out in this spreadysheet. *The Bosch 044 and PT342 were tested at 3,4,&5 Bar and I made the sheet in 5 psi. steps, so I put those flow ratings with slightly higher pressures (for example 4 bar=58.8 psi. so I put that with the flow ratings for 60 psi.). This means that these fuel pumps will keep up with the injectors slightly less than what is filled out, but since the ID1000's flow less than what is stated this will ofset. *This obviously doesn't take into account any inefficiencies in your fuel delivery system, such as insufficiently sized fuel rails, lines, etc. https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?...thkey=CPOslc0I Last edited by 02RexWI; 12-03-2010 at 11:23 AM. |
12-03-2010, 11:09 AM | #1834 |
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we are still tuning hakt ecu. the other day she put down 369/370, but at high boost (22) i can smell fuel breifly and the car leans out a bit. looked for the leak by cranking up the fuel pressure to 80#'s but only found a very slight leak at one of the lines going into the pass side fuel block. tightened the clamp, pulled again and smelled it again. sometimes i dont smell it under full boost though...anyway gotta sort that out. found a bunch of air leaks, going over the car. its getting there. rons been real patient waiting out my problems. def e85 in the spring.
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12-03-2010, 11:12 AM | #1835 |
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my buddy's car just made 380whp at agile on 93..
he's got 960cc injectors and a walbro with a 49lb precision rotated kit.. would he have enough fuel for e85?? he wants moarrrr powarrrr |
12-03-2010, 11:15 AM | #1836 |
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I doubt it. What is his target horsepower?
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12-03-2010, 11:16 AM | #1837 | |
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Glad to hear someone else is coming out with a pump thats a easy intalk solution for more fuel.
Between this the the new DW300lph fuel pump im excited! Quote:
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12-03-2010, 11:19 AM | #1838 |
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12-03-2010, 11:24 AM | #1839 |
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^I need target horsepower not boost
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12-03-2010, 11:38 AM | #1840 |
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why??? who cares about the number???
Juan, whats you IDC on the 1200's with the green at 24-25psi?? <--- This is what I'm looking for, not inflated or deflated dyno numbers... |
12-03-2010, 11:50 AM | #1841 |
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Your fuel consumption is directly proportionate to how much power you are making that why I ask
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12-03-2010, 11:55 AM | #1842 |
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If you want to rally-x the car a giant turbo probably isn't the way to go. You'll need all your power down low, at least for all the courses around me.
I talked to a guy at a meet that was so happy that he was running 24psi on his stock turbo, probably blowing hot air like crazy and it was on pump gas. |
12-03-2010, 12:02 PM | #1843 |
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ok. let me re-ask my question. would 960's and a walbro provide enough e85 to run 22psi on a 49lb turbo? phatron, help, not these trolls wanting to know how many whorespowers |
12-03-2010, 12:08 PM | #1844 |
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^Too vauge of a question... If you could tell me how efficient the turbo is @ 49 lbs/min I might be able to tell you roughly.
You honestly dont know how much horsepower he expects to make? |
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12-03-2010, 12:27 PM | #1846 | |
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12-03-2010, 12:52 PM | #1847 |
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IDK much about the new subaru but the newer WRX turbo VF52 is about the same size of a VF39? correct.
-First, you can get the parts much cheaper from IMPORTIMAGE a vendor here, find him and PM him. -Second, I would get fiveO bosh EV14 injectors instead of DWs, they are easy to tune and they are smooth. As far as the size you will be fine with 850cc but just in case you want more power go with bigger injectors either 1000cc or 1200cc. I have the 1200cc and they rock, here is a link to the 1000cc http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-Sub...#ht_1542wt_939. Search their EBAY store for the 1200cc if you want them, they have 850cc EV14 as well. -Third, I would rather run a Hallman MBC than a EBC, you can control the boost setting at your leisure. I have been tune with both the car spool and make the same power with either one, but I like the feeling of the car with the MBC better. -fourth, get a Etune of a tune from Phatbotti Tunning TKR You will make good power about 330whp |
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For example: my "high" reading dyno (dynojet numbers minus 3-5%) has seen a VF39 make as much as 320whp in the dead of winter (40*F in my dyno room and <32*F outside) with every bolt on possible. The VF52 has made 360whp with every bolt on possible in the same climate. Bring those same two cars in the shop when it's 95*F and they make 295hwp on the 39 and 338whp on the 52. |
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12-03-2010, 01:06 PM | #1850 | |
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If the turbo flow's like a typical td06-8cm 20g and the injectors flow a true 900, 22 psi should not be a problem. On injectors that flow a true 900, i was able to run 19.5 psi on a 60lb/min turbo on E85 (99% IDC) -Mikey |
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