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11-12-2012, 09:21 PM | #1 |
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2011,2012,2013 WRX, ringlands still an issue?
had an 06 sti and thinking about getting back into a subie. How's the stock tune on the MY11+ WRX's and rate of ringland failure? I've read about a few 2011 STi's blowing, but not seeing many wrx's having ringland issues. staying stock
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11-13-2012, 02:16 AM | #2 |
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I Wouldnt worry if staying stock.
stock tune does get pretty lean entering boost however. |
11-13-2012, 02:53 AM | #3 |
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How about if applying a mod, for example, exhaust?
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11-13-2012, 03:53 AM | #4 |
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If you staying stock, or just putting on a catback exhaust then don't worry at all about ringlands.
I would do a stage 1 tune though. |
11-13-2012, 04:57 AM | #5 |
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the FIRST thing id do with any new fi subaru is get it tuned to get rid of the bad factory tune
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11-13-2012, 06:58 AM | #6 |
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Search, there is an ENTIRE thread about this in 2.5L
The instance of ringland failures will always be there, how played out it is depends on how many members are actually saying anything and how many owners are members. |
11-13-2012, 08:45 AM | #7 |
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IF you buy one don't do anything that Subaru can even remotely point to as a possible cause for the failure, because they will!
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I have read this to be true. Not all cases, but some where warranty was denied on a stock vehicle if tire wear or something else indicated abuse |
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11-13-2012, 09:42 AM | #9 |
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Wait for whatever engine comes in the next WRX/STi. Chances are, they won't have to run a dangerously lean tune to comply with modern emissions requirements like they have to do with the EJ255/7.
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11-13-2012, 09:57 AM | #10 |
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In my experience, I've seen noticeably more STIs experience ringland failure than WRXs. As far as the tune, you nailed it when you said it's a catch 22. I personally plan on keeping my WRX far past the weak-ass warranty period, so dropping a safer tune was a no-brainer for me. Knowing my luck, I'd run the stock tune for 3 year/ 36,000 miles, THEN have a ringland failure and lose my money anyways. No thanks. I have zero regrets I did my tune immediately.
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11-13-2012, 10:01 AM | #11 |
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Just put a stage 1 on it and enjoy the car. Properly modded, and not driven like an asshat, these cars are very reliable. I have 100k on my 08, bought it new, but I junked the factory tune during breakin due to the lean issues with it. Yes the factory tune is horrible. Yes it is a 'catch 22' because you technically void the warranty. Then again, if you follow sentence number 2 above, you shouldn't grenade your motor with a safe tune unless you're completely retarded, so it's not like you will need it anyway.
I used my extended warranty for all 100k of my car. I had minor things here and there changed out UNDER warranty, with the dealership fully aware of my modifications. If the modification isn't responsible for the failure, the warranty is still good. My .02 cents. |
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11-13-2012, 10:15 AM | #13 |
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I've had full bolt on's and a protune since 3k miles on my 2011 STi. im at 17k miles and the car has seen almost 20 passes at the track and boost almost every time i drive it. runs strong as ever.
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11-13-2012, 11:08 AM | #14 |
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Driving aggressively before the car is fully warmed up, using oil that doesn't belong in the car, doing modifications without researching, high-rpm clutch drops and banging gears at every stoplight are not what Subaru designed this car for. Many people have learned the hard way by doing those exact things, then trying to blame Subaru when they won't repair it for free.
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11-13-2012, 11:24 AM | #16 |
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good discussion guys
I guess it comes down to...a very small % sees these failures. But these failures can and still do occur with current models. It does suck if you happen to be one the few with a bad one. I'm sure if subaru had some way remedied the issue more, sales would be better. They have a good product i.e. AWD, boxer rumble, great aggressive exterior looks, fast, fun to drive, under $30k (WRX) Buy it stay stock, no tracking, no autoX and if something happens, it should be covered. OR buy it mod it stg1 or 2, safe tune, most likely nothing will happen and probably runs better than stock, but if it something were to fail, be ready to pay Last edited by yenny; 11-13-2012 at 11:33 AM. |
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1) the oil used meets the standards as outlined in the owner's manual 2) you changed it according to the recommended intervals from Subaru 3) can provide receipts for every service performed then you'll be fine. If you don't, you run the risk of getting denied. |
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11-13-2012, 01:04 PM | #21 |
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11-13-2012, 01:28 PM | #23 |
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They didn't...
I haven't seen enough data to build a trend on the failures with regards to miles. That may very well be true. I've read plenty of failures at low miles. Tough call. Anyone has to just weigh out the risks and benefits and make the right choice for them. It sucks that it's even a question. Oh well. Still have mad Subaru love. Last edited by Decipher; 11-13-2012 at 02:08 PM. |
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To answer your question, yes the pistons are still crap.
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11-14-2012, 01:31 AM | #25 |
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I love how everyone blames this initial lean condition at the on-set of boost yet no one has been able to confirm that it truely is the culprit.
It also has nothing to do with emissions. Ford manages to get their Focus ST (turbo) to run a 13:1 or less AFR at 3500rpms. When I've logged my 2012 WRX with the Torque App, it shows an AFR at ~13.5:1 at the on-set of boost and the richening up into the 12s shorterly thereafter (~4200rpms). |
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