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02-04-2013, 01:22 AM | #6901 | |
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I run ACT XTSS on everything. Love that clutch.
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02-06-2013, 11:44 PM | #6902 |
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I went from the ACT HD and 4 puck sprung disk on a 5 speed to the ACT XT and solid 6 puck on a 6 speed. I find the unsprung 6 puck to have a lot less chatter. You have to keep the rev's low and let the clutch out quick, but if you do it right it's smooth. The XT has a lot firmer pedal feel.
Anyways, what are the practical power limits for each of these pumps (on E85, Dynojet WHP): Walbro255 DW300 Aero340 Walbro405 Walbro465 Curious for both stock wiring and hardwired to the battery. Also wondering if anyone has gotten the Walbro405 or 465 to fit into the 08+ plastic housing? |
02-07-2013, 12:13 AM | #6903 | |
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I'm hoping that the 465 can be stuffed into the plastic housing because I want to upgrade to this pump on my 11 STi when I go bigger but I'm afraid it might not be possible without some pretty significant modification to the housing. |
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02-07-2013, 01:11 AM | #6904 |
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Also wondering if anyone has gotten the Walbro405 or 465 to fit into the 08+ plastic housing?[/quote]
Yes... it fits for a fact... I have a walbro405 installed in stock housing... The only thing I had to do was shave two tabs that I didn't need when I had a 255 in there. It fits just fine with room to play for the slightly wider 465. |
02-12-2013, 11:10 AM | #6905 |
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Finally on E-85. Its a super soft tune at only 17.8 lbs of boost to clean out the motor and get all the residual 91 craptastic out of the system
Mods are Dom3 xtr 8cm with 2.4 inlet and IWG ID 1000 Walbro 255 Turbo xs FMIC hybrid motor with thicker head gasket cosworth 272 cams Drive train is a JDLM v7 6 speed with a competition clutches unsprung 6 puck. I made around 330 hp and 300ft lbs I will be getting my final tune next monday and will post up the plot.We are going to stay super conservative as I am on a low mile OEM 2.5 ltr hybrid with cosworth 272's A built long block is in the works. I will put it all in the proper format just wanted to welcome myself here, and give a little teaser. I think we are on to somthing with those power numbers at such low boost. Funny how I say we when all I did was spend the money. GST motorsports has done all the wrenching and tuning. I am super happy. |
02-12-2013, 11:14 AM | #6906 | |
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Maybe you're power goals are pretty low but I suspect you'll run out of fuel before you get very far. Good luck with it though and let us know how it goes. |
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02-12-2013, 11:47 AM | #6907 | |
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I've just scheduled a touch up tune with Jr at PnL for the 26th now that we have the injectors sorted out and have bumped the rev limit to 8K. I ran a quick pump gas log yesterday, not a full pull in any gear but it's feeling very strong. I'm seeing 22 psi in both 3rd and 4th gears by 3600-3800 rpm and that equates to 380-400 WTQ. I may put some E85 in the car this week and see if I can get a good log down and see what the IDC's are! |
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02-12-2013, 12:23 PM | #6908 |
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How much power do you think FiveO 1200's could support with a hardwired 465 and increased fuel pressure?
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02-12-2013, 12:26 PM | #6909 | |
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I'd ask whoever is tuning it to be 100% but I feel like I've seen setups similar hit mid to high 500's depending on the dyno Last edited by SubieLuvin; 02-12-2013 at 12:55 PM. |
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02-12-2013, 01:02 PM | #6910 | ||
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I think you'll get a little over 500 whp at base pressure and could get a little more with an adjustable FPR and a bump up towards 50 psi. If what manitou is saying he can get with 1000's is true then you might be good for more than that but there could be a difference in how you're dyno reads whp vs his. I'll post up my findings when I'm done with the 35r STi I'm tuning right now. He has 1400 cc injectors and the 465, stock wired. We were out of fuel at 24.5 psi and showing 490 whp on VD. He bumped the base pressure to 47 and we gained some headroom. He is going to hardwire the pump soon to see how much that helps. |
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02-12-2013, 01:14 PM | #6911 |
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I'm just bustin his balls haha he just went back to stage 1 from a much more powerful setup I've followed his build.
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02-12-2013, 01:26 PM | #6912 |
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02-12-2013, 01:29 PM | #6913 | |
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He'll be good for plenty of power with the rewire and 59 psi base! |
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02-12-2013, 01:37 PM | #6914 | |
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Your numbers make a lot more sense seeing that you've opened things up a lot. I've done a couple tunes with the Killer B header and I have to agree, it rocks. I've seen pretty impressive gains even on a stock turbo setup. Its on my personal list of future mods. Have you noticed any drivability issues with such high base pressure? |
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02-12-2013, 02:05 PM | #6915 | |
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The Killer b HH I believe improves the VE enough to maximize everything. Jr made 360WHP & 450WTQ with a vf48 on e85 with my XTI this past summer. This car drive great right now on pump, idles perfectly at 800 AFRs at 14.5-6. Pulls smooth, drives like stock.....until ya give'r....then hold on |
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02-12-2013, 02:24 PM | #6916 | |
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02-12-2013, 06:30 PM | #6917 | |
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I like that VF48, too bad the turbine oil seals SUCK ASS. I know there are rebuild kits for VF's but someone should improve the oil seals on the hot side of them! You sure can make a lot of torque and quickly with E85 and the VF's! |
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02-12-2013, 06:39 PM | #6918 | |
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Yeah, I've been following the SD patching work closely and I'm anxious to get my STi switched over to it. I'm switching my wife's Spec C over to SD as soon as I get an IAT sensor into the intake manifold and wired up. |
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02-12-2013, 06:52 PM | #6919 |
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probably too much timing. People seem to think that e85= 7 more degrees of timing when it only means 2.5 to 5.
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02-12-2013, 07:28 PM | #6920 |
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Put the IAT in the IC tubing or on the IC right in front of the throttle body. If its in the intake it will most likely be exposed to more heat soak.
It probably lasted 2k miles after that. It was making 300 WTQ by 2800 and 450 WTQ by 3200 rpm. Just too much torque for the 126k miles on the motor. If it was a SD tune and the IAT was near the TB it may have pulled timing because of the more accurate IAT temps and prolonged the motor a bit longer. No worries though it was going to happen sooner or later. I like my build now! |
02-12-2013, 08:24 PM | #6921 | |
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On the next motor we will throw more parts at it as the goal then will be high to mid 10 second 1/4th miles in full street trim. I do alot of research on what I think I want but for the most part I leave part selection in the hands of my tuner. Thank you guys for your input. Last edited by Shayhan27; 02-13-2013 at 01:22 PM. |
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02-12-2013, 08:40 PM | #6922 | |
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In hind sight I really should have done a SD tune but the stock motor had 126k on it and 80k at stage 2+ |
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02-12-2013, 11:48 PM | #6923 |
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02-13-2013, 07:46 PM | #6924 |
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wait...so you made 450wtq on a stock ej255 with 126k on it, and you blame the IAT compensations?
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02-13-2013, 08:36 PM | #6925 | |
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Yes, I blame myself and the location of the IAT on the MAF based tune because it does not read correct IATs for proper compensation of timing! Especially whe you push them hard with fuel like E85! You think that's flawed? I knew pushing the SB and the VF48 on E85 at 126k was a risk but I said let's see what she can do! Maybe I was really wanting the block to go so I could do my built motor??? Last edited by manitou; 02-13-2013 at 08:58 PM. |
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