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Old 01-24-2001, 07:54 PM   #1
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Talking how to disable daytime running lights in WRX?

as we all know, there will be day time running lights for WRX..any one know how to disable them? and turn them on manuelly? thanks u guys
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Old 01-24-2001, 08:00 PM   #2
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I dont think anyone can awnser that unless they live out side north america. But when they come out i will bet my life on it that some one will figure it out with in the first month. The subie dealer will know how to do it. but will they tell u how is the question.
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Old 01-24-2001, 08:04 PM   #3
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Wondering that myself, I also want an on/off switch for the ABS.

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Old 01-24-2001, 08:06 PM   #4
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I'm just curious, why do you want to turn off the lights? I personally run with mine on all the time.

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Old 01-24-2001, 08:06 PM   #5
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The ABS switch is easy. I have one on my RS.
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Old 01-24-2001, 10:09 PM   #6
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jus curious...what r the advantages of turning ABS off?
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Old 01-24-2001, 11:53 PM   #7
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Many DRL's systems disengage when the handbrake is used. I'm sure one could tap into that circut to make the DRL's stay off.
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Old 01-25-2001, 12:32 AM   #8
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Is it more cool to have the day time running light disabled?

I don't see the benefit...

[This message has been edited by Imprezard (edited January 25, 2001).]
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Old 01-25-2001, 12:36 AM   #9
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If one has upgraded headlight bulbs then using the DRL results in shorter bulb life, and more drag on the charging system. I'll be eliminating mine within days of getting the car. Or at least within days of getting the wiring diagrams.
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Old 01-25-2001, 11:13 AM   #10
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DRLs have never been proven to work effectively to prevent accidents. Mostly they are annoying...most are mounted in a high beam position, thus when people are driving in low light conditions and forget to turn on their regular beams, they end up blinding the driver in front of them. They also end up shortening the life of the high beam, because they are on all the time.

For a nice article on this, <A HREF="http://www.motorists.org/stealthis/lightsoff.html">click here</A>.
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Old 01-25-2001, 11:45 AM   #11
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Im confused now...ABS refers to the Anti-lock Braking System, correct? Hence my original question, why turn it off? Unless subaru uses some obscure name for headlights (Always Beaming Safety!?).
Safety? Bah. DRL's are for sissys who care about things like safety.
Personally, i could care less about them, except that short bulb life factor...has this actually been an issue with anyone?
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Old 01-25-2001, 01:18 PM   #12
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Correct me if I'm being completely ignorant, but for the WRX, wouldn't disabling the DRL's be a simple matter of pulling the bulbs out?

The WRX's light cluster is made of 3 parts. In the picture of the WR Blue sedan in the 2002 brochure, it looks like the DRL is the small, clear bulb at the outside edge of the cluster. Surely you should be able to get to it - or would the whole assembly be sealed to keep out moisture?

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Old 01-25-2001, 01:37 PM   #13
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I just think people with DTRLs are the nerdest things on the planet. I mean dammnn,
you cant even see in the daytime. I live in california man. When I want them on during the day I will turn them on.
ABS sucks, bad feel..
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Old 01-25-2001, 02:32 PM   #14
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I'm not sure you can really tell at this point what is required to disable the DRLs. From what I have read, most cars use the high beam bulbs at 80% of full brightness for DRLs.

I know on the Lexus IS300, when the DRLs are active, the normal voltage running to the high beam is dropped across a resistor that is located near the fuze block. In the IS300, all you have to do is pull out that socketed resistor and you are in business.

Some other cars either have a fuze that can be pulled or have a dealer programmable software "switch" that can disable them.

If the WRX does have a dedicated bulb for the DRLs then it would be just as simple to disconnect the bulb like previously mentioned. After people start getting their cars, I'm sure it will be just a matter of time before one of the members on this board figures out how to disable them and will hopefully post that here on the board (that is what happened with the IS300 over on IS300.net).

Now that DRLs are more ubiquitous, they don't bother me as much. I figure they would probably help people notice me more so hopefully they won't hit me. I have heard that silver is an especially bad color for visibility so I might keep my DRLs for that reason.

I just hope that the Imprezas turn on the headlights on automatically so we don't have people driving around at night with no tailights and 80% high beams blinding all of the other drivers. That is what I found most offensive in the early days of DRLs. Most cars with DRLs these days seem to have auto on/auto off headlight systems.

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Old 01-25-2001, 03:03 PM   #15
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No ABS and locked wheels will stop you faster in the dirt or snow than ABS. This is providing that you react properly so you don't spin the car.
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Old 01-25-2001, 03:20 PM   #16
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Disabling the DRL's on my Cherokee was essential because I have tinted headlight covers and I didn't want the light to shine through them in the daylight. I also did this cause I installed blue and clear strobe lights in the headlight housing so... I need the headlight bulb to be off to reduce any light interference. To do so on my truck and most new cars now you can either pull a fuse if the DRL's are the only thing on that fuse, or pull the plug from the DRL control unit like I did. The only bad part was that I lost my High beam indicator light on my dashboard. I plan on doing this to my WRX (on-order) so I can put the same strobe lights in it.
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Old 01-25-2001, 04:29 PM   #17
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I have no objection to DRLs. I do object to having the factory decide that I always want them on.

If the conditions warrant and I want my lights on, I will turn them on. I was smart enough to buy a Subaru, trust me to know when I should have my lights on (or off).
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Old 01-25-2001, 05:20 PM   #18
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Just ground the E-brake pin wire to chassis! This will turn them off. You WILL see the idiot light on all the time, but who cares? Better than bein' an idiot with DRL's!!
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Old 01-25-2001, 06:18 PM   #19
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Who cares they are just lights. Sure there is no proof that they make you more visible to other drivers, but what do you have to loose. Burnt out lights you say? If you can afford a 24k dollar car I would assume you could afford to replace burnt out lights every couple of years.

I find it really funny that people complain about not having side markers like it renders the car invisible to other drivers. Yet they talk about disabling DRL's and putting eyelids over the forward turn signals. Both of which are designed to improve your visibility to other drivers.
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Old 01-26-2001, 12:07 AM   #20
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Sometimes its nice to be able to disable the ABS when autocrossing, rallying, etc.

At autocrosses and the low-ish speeds therin, it would sometimes be advantageous to be able to lock the wheels briefly to achieve specific effect. The ABS interferes in a wierd way since you're not doing the freeway-dead-panic-stop action that ABS is optimized for. You can do it by pulling a fuse, but many prefer a switch.

Personally, if I were to take that approach, I'd do it with a one-shot that had to be re-triggered to turn off the ABS every time you started the car, that way I wouldn't forget and be out on the freeway with disabled ABS.

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Old 01-26-2001, 09:00 AM   #21
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Here's a good pic of the headlight: http://www.mnsubaru.org/wrx/TN_IMG_0292.JPG

If the outer corner is the DRL, then no worry about it being the annoying high-beam, nor about it burning out a bulb upgrade.

I think extra lights in dim conditions is a good thing--I have been hoping the new Subarus would have them. And in sunlight I would guess they don't change the look of the car at all.

DRLs definitely make you more visible in borderline situations--going under some overpasses, in shaded city blocks, dawn/dusk, overcast day, etc.--quite a few situations, actually. Many of them short-term, when you would never bother to turn them on manually. Who would ever bother to flick the lights on every time they went down a block of tall buildings, and then turn them off for sunnier streets? But DRLs keep you more visible in all those cases--whether it's for 5 seconds, 5 minutes, or just until you remember that dusk has fallen! (We all make that mistake and turn our lights on later than we should, nothing to do with stupidity.) In any case, the split-second during which someone sees you or doesn't is not very long.

All the crashes and near-deaths on this forum make safety features sound kinda nice!
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Old 01-26-2001, 09:03 AM   #22
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While I'm thinking of it, is that separate orange rectangle on the side just a reflector or an extra turn signal? If it's just a reflector, can you see any turn signal at all when pulled up next to a WRX that's about to turn in front of you? The main turn signals look like they are only visible from the front, but perhaps that's not true.
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