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10-10-2009, 08:23 AM | #1 | |
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'Cool' car rules could affect radios, phones
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10-10-2009, 12:44 PM | #2 |
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10-10-2009, 12:51 PM | #3 | |
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sounds like whining from suppliers. where there's a will there's a way, but in this case they feel that it's cheaper to put out whiny press releases instead and hope that the regulation gets changed.
if they don't like the rule then they can forgo the california market, the size of many european countries. Quote:
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10-10-2009, 01:25 PM | #4 | |
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10-10-2009, 01:56 PM | #5 |
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AFFECTED.
There will be a slowing effect on solar heating of the interior. They will be affected by being required to have reflective glass. I don't think the regulation distinguishes between NEV and highway-capable vehicles. |
10-10-2009, 02:01 PM | #6 |
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And how does regular tint not help with heat?
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10-10-2009, 02:08 PM | #7 |
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Good theory, but again the execution of it screws everything.
Thanks for ruining automotive fun again law makers. Then again, if this goes into effect country wide there might be less drivers talking on their phone when they should be watching the road. |
10-10-2009, 02:27 PM | #8 |
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There's no reason passive antennas can't work in cars just like they did 10 years ago when analog cellphones were weak.
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10-10-2009, 02:46 PM | #9 |
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Actually, modern phones will perform worse than the old analog units. The old "brick" cell phones broadcast at 3W. The newer digital units broadcast at .6w. The reason why the signal is clearer is because the cell phone uses a digital signal, and is far smarter about choosing a clear frequency that the old analog stuff. You can get boosters that will boost the signal of your cell phone to 3W which is the max a cellphone can broadcast at, according to the FCC, I think.
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10-10-2009, 02:54 PM | #10 |
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Regular tint absorbs infrared, heating up the glass and causing it to re-radiate heat out both sides, so half the IR blocked still goes into the interior as heat. And there is a limit of how much visible light can be blocked on the windshield.
Using a reflective coating, the amount of reduction of heat entry is much higher, even on the windshield. |
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10-10-2009, 04:53 PM | #12 |
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A8's with the warm weather package for example already have all metal-coated glass.
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10-10-2009, 04:59 PM | #13 |
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I feel for the people of california or "Kalli4nia" as the govenator says it.
I dont know how anyone could put up with the taxes and laws they have thier, plus it seems like they are getting tougher every month! Pretty soon all that will be allowed on the roads will be hybrids, or golf cart style electric cars. |
10-10-2009, 05:23 PM | #14 |
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What bunch of FU#%ING retards we have making rules and laws... * * EXHALE * *
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10-10-2009, 05:38 PM | #15 |
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I certainly hope that they do it nationwide so my car is cooler when I get in during the summer. It is actually quite easy to do and it is also incredibly easy to make it so that cell phones and other gadgets work. In fact it is already dealt with for the luxury cars that have the feature.
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10-10-2009, 06:27 PM | #16 |
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Yeah. I know. What does that have to do with passive antennas allowing the signal to pass through the car? Nothing. |
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10-10-2009, 07:16 PM | #18 |
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Ok so this reflects the suns ray and your car doesn't get so hot inside. That is great, but there is no way the car is going to be cooler then it is outside, correct? Or am I missing something here?
So it's 80 outside and 80 in you car, I'm pretty sure the a/c will still be turned on. What is the point then? Until it starts to get into the low 70s I'm almost certain people will still be putting on their a/c. Even if they didn't turn it on they would open a window and gas mileage would fall. Plus when your in a car with the windows up your own body heat eventually will make you either turn on the a/c or open a window. Honestly just how much good is this law going to do. Maybe because I'm from VA and it gets in the high 90s in the summer over here. Even if my car wasn't over heated from the sun, it's still hot as balls outside and I would still turn on the a/c. |
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This may be a good idea. It will stop people from talking/texting on cellphone while driving. You will have to stop and go out to make a call.
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10-10-2009, 07:42 PM | #21 |
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^^ I think people will just start demanding the passive antennas BeaverBoy brought into the discussion and the price of a new car will climb more.
Yay for my plans to keep the 07 until it is a classic. Or I die, which ever comes first. |
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ehh.
i leave on the ac just to remove humidity from the air. Even if the fan isn't blowing full speed, you're still putting the same drain on the engine to compress the refrigerant. winter time as well. I can't stand being in a humid car. i really don't see this as making any impact... oh and taking 10 years to payback 200 bucks, umm.... pointless. It'd make more sense to outlaw black interiors then mandate that some stupid metal coating be put on windows. |
10-10-2009, 08:33 PM | #23 | |
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10-11-2009, 12:18 AM | #24 | |
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They still need to provide the same amount of compressed refrigerant in order to cool down 100+ degree 85% humidity air to 65-70. The only thing it would change is the amount of time that you could use the compressor, but NO ONE actually shuts off their AC when the temp goes low, because then you're blowing in hot air. These law makers had their head in the right place, but just don't quite get it. |
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10-11-2009, 01:17 AM | #25 | |
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The less heat that enters the cabin the less duty cycle the A/C compressor runs and therefore the less energy spent on extracting the heat. I know you're talking about cooling fresh air, but you have to realize that the cool air from the A/C is displacing hot air in your cabin when you use the vent. The less hot air that exists in the cabin the less cool you need the air that's blowing in. If you were to actually measure your vents you'd see that they're blowing out 40-50° air in order for the temperature in the car to reach 65-70°. The cabin will never be 40° inside just because the A/C is on because the sun is always adding more heat. One of the biggest problems with cooling down a car is that it sits in the sun all day and every interior surface, as well as the air inside, gets to be 140° when you get out of work or the supermarket.. or your house. Now the A/C has to use it's 40° air to displace a massive amount of heat that could be partially avoided with minimal effort. I don't get all the hate for this. Anti-tint laws are pure BS and this will make cars safer and nicer to drive at a minimal cost. Last edited by Calamity Jesus; 10-11-2009 at 01:23 AM. |
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