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04-06-2014, 12:48 AM | #1 |
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Flex Fuel option from Cobb
Is there any updates if Cobb will be coming out for a Flex Fuel option for Subaru like they are working on for GTR?
Thanks
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04-06-2014, 02:37 AM | #2 |
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Would also love to see this. I believe we can use our TGV position inputs for 0-5v reference for the linear scale for the E85 content...I think the RomRaider guys have been playing with this for a bit.
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04-07-2014, 12:07 AM | #3 |
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04-07-2014, 01:40 AM | #4 |
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04-08-2014, 04:04 PM | #5 |
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This is something we do want to look into once we get a few bigger projects knocked out. I don't have any details at this time, but check back with us in a couple months and we'll see where we are at.
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04-08-2014, 04:32 PM | #6 |
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Hey, if you ever need someone to product test, I would be practically beating down your door to test this. Easy access to E85 in Houston, educated as an engineer and always tinkering with the car, and I can provide great feedback. It would be great to see true flex fuel instead of this "put in E85 and hope it actually is 85% ethanol" crap.
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04-13-2014, 05:24 PM | #7 |
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I would also be willing to Beta test a flex fuel option if it becomes available. Thanks for the response back Chris.
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05-28-2014, 03:34 AM | #8 |
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"Thirding" the offer to beta test with this. Also posting in all of the threads regarding Cobb & flexfuel to subscribe.
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08-18-2014, 01:36 AM | #9 |
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Any updates on this? I'm very interested in running flex fuel.
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08-20-2014, 06:00 PM | #10 |
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Nothing new to report quite yet. We are getting to the tail end of some of those big projects I mentioned earlier. Once those are busted out, we will be looking into a couple new features including flex fuel.
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08-23-2014, 09:54 PM | #11 |
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Shouldn't this be a fairly easy feature to tackle? With realtime tuning currently available it would seem fairly simple if the accessport was connected to the car 24/7 and an e85 sensor was connected to the accessport that the accessport could make timing corrections at any time due to the current ethanol percentage.
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08-28-2014, 12:44 AM | #12 |
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It would also be fuel delivery volume as well. Maybe even allowable boost...I'm not a tuner, unless it's a su carb or a motocross bike...so I'm just presuming. I would love to have flex fuel
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08-28-2014, 03:37 AM | #13 | |
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10-01-2014, 10:40 AM | #14 |
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Well now that it's October I'm curious if you guys have seen any progress (or the end of most of the projects). Oh, sign me up for the testing also, I'm about 3 miles from Cobb Tuning Plano.
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10-01-2014, 03:28 PM | #15 |
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I switched over to EcuTek with Bill at Delicious Tuning. I've been running (testing) his setup (sensor/controller) since 2014.09.12; so far so good, not a single issue and I've run all sorts of combinations (E70/E90/91Oct/etc). He'll be releasing his Flex Fuel setup in the near future.
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10-01-2014, 06:56 PM | #16 |
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Just checking in on this for an update from COBB.......I am VERY interested.
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10-01-2014, 07:43 PM | #17 | |
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Don't hold your breath, Cobb is undoubtedly corporate now - pushing hardware and components hard. Very money oriented decisions being made (can't fault them for this), and there is far more money in the GTR world (per part) than the Subaru* world. The only saving grace for the latter is that we have a larger base. I still don't think we'll be seeing this from Cobb any time soon though. |
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10-01-2014, 08:21 PM | #18 |
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I'd love this to happen. I want to run e85 again on my new build, but would like the friendliness of flex fuel.
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10-02-2014, 11:08 AM | #19 | |
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Comparing the datasheets and the UOAs Redline runs a HT/HS of 4.4mPa.s, whereas Motul X-Cess is 3.7 mPa.s (both good, but a .7 increase is massive for the same price), and the NOACK volatility isn't even listed for Motul. Oh, the real shocker, 300V is still lower at 4.1mPa.s than Redline (and possibly Rotella T6, but no official published numbers exist, speculation is 4.0-4.2). Also, if you're wondering about zinc content (or others) my UOA is linked at the bottom. I wonder if when Cobb responds they'll touch base on this, I hate it when I'm given wrong information by a shop, and I hate it even more when I try to explain and they don't understand a word I'm saying. Educate your sales team! Sources: Redline Oils datasheet Motul X-Cess 5w-40 datasheet Motul 300V Power Redline 5w-40 UOA Last edited by Trae32566; 10-02-2014 at 11:24 AM. |
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10-02-2014, 12:14 PM | #20 | |
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Subaru is still our biggest vehicle platform and still the most dominate car in our parking lot at HQ. Flex Fuel and other GT-R like features are on the Subaru to-do list. Keep in mind that with our Realtime map switching (nobody else has Realtime tuning), you can create different maps for varying ethanol content and quickly flash to any of those maps as needed (store up to around 100 maps on AP). That is certainly a useable solution that you can currently take advantage of in the meantime. We also just got a brand new car in our shop called the 2015 Subaru WRX. Turns out it has an all new engine and ECU, so all of our engineers are working pretty hard on that. In some ways, being a "huge corporate" company would be awesome because then we'd just throw $100 dollar bills at the problem and it would fix itself. Instead, we're using our current bad ass engineering team and the only trade-off is a little extra time. We have retail locations with tons of experience using different oils in different climates and regions. There will always be varying opinions on the classic "What is the best oil?" question, but I'll pass along the info sheets to our Retail sales guys and our CSR team at HQ for their info and use. We're working on Flex Fuel and more for Subaru and it will be easier to use and available through more Protuners than anything available right now. No ETA and probably not by the end of this year, but keep asking and we'll keep answering with as much info as we have. Ian Last edited by Cobb Tuning; 10-02-2014 at 12:27 PM. |
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10-05-2014, 11:58 AM | #21 | |
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Also, you're not the only one with realtime tuning (granted, it only works for 01-04): http://www.ecutek.com/Products/Featu...er-Tuning.aspx Last edited by Trae32566; 10-06-2014 at 12:51 PM. |
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10-07-2014, 01:14 AM | #22 |
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I am very much hoping this will happen. I have hopes for this by the first quarter of next year
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10-16-2014, 11:27 AM | #23 |
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I'd love to see this as well. I'm from MN so we get all 3 blends of E85 here, I'm looking to convert over to E85 after I'm done with stage 2 and it would be nice to not be paranoid about the SIX changes of ethanol blends in a year.
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10-18-2014, 08:18 AM | #24 |
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I spoke with Neil at Cobb Plano the other day, he actually mentioned that flex fuel is in the future, I diddnt even bring it up.
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10-18-2014, 08:40 AM | #25 | |
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I believe you won that argument. You guys do a great job. I could only imagine how much work has to be done to stay on top of the new vehicles as well as the not so new. I can't wait for the E85 platform . Keep us posted please. -Robert Sent from my iPhone using NASIOC |
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