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Old 07-13-2015, 10:18 AM   #1
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Default 2015 Subaru WRX - P113A

There doesn't appear to be hardly, if anything online regarding this ECU code. I got this the other day. I am running full ETS (catless) turbo back along with ECBS/TGV and a Bren Tuning eTune.

The most I found was a post by someone on here who said they were a tech and pulled the code up on their site which said "O2 sensor circuit (open) (bank 1 sensor 2)".

I am trying to determine what the issue could be. I am pointing to a bad O2 sensor but trying to research it before ordering a new one. The car seems to be performing fine when monitoring it on the AP. Fuel trims are no higher than 3%, A/F doesn't show it running lean on WOT and FBNK, FBNKL look good.

Regarding the code, is Bank1 Sensor 2 the O2 closet to the turbo? The 2nd O2 sensor on the ETS catless is attached to the 90 degree O2 bung.
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Old 07-13-2015, 06:15 PM   #2
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Sensor #2 is the rear O2 sensor. The code you're experiencing is pretty common on the ETS hardware due to the unique placement of the O2 sensor in the "90 degree O2 bung" you're describing. You'll likely need to find a Protuner or grab a copy of ATR in order to address the DTC, assuming this is an offroad-only vehicle. Replacing the sensor will likely not change the behavior. Alternately, a J-pipe that keeps the O2 sensor in a "normal" position (IE, not with a 90 degree extension) should not cause the issue.

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Old 07-13-2015, 09:19 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply. I will research into your advice .
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Old 07-21-2015, 04:32 PM   #4
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Let tuner know, they sent me a new file which I assume disables the code. However, now I got a p2270... which is another post O2 code... LOL. It seems like it's going to keep throwing all the codes from that O2 until we just disable them all...? Why does the ETS pipe cause this issue?

I guess looking at the design, was it supposed to help limit the gases that reach the O2 sensors, instead of being directly in the stream, to give it lower readings from a non catted pipe?

Car runs fine, keeping an eye on everything. It just stinks losing cruise control... I wish I could get the file that actually loads into the Race software so I can disable them myself and not bother them.
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Old 07-22-2015, 02:12 PM   #5
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The actual map or file should be on your AP and can be easily transferred to your computer and loaded into Access tuner race. Be sure to fully understand the codes you are disabling or could lead to damage.
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Old 07-23-2015, 11:36 AM   #6
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I am aware of the software and risks. I used it for my 2012 WRX using TP maps. The files I am sent from BT do not load properly and receive an error when trying to load them into the software. All the codes are post cat codes. I am running the catless ETS pipe. I remember someone else getting this issue with this pipe and listed all the codes to disable. I will talk to BT and see what else they say. Not a huge issue being it's post emissions sensor. Car is running great aside from the codes.. no cruise... bleh!
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Old 08-03-2015, 09:37 AM   #7
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Let tuner know, they sent me a new file which I assume disables the code. However, now I got a p2270... which is another post O2 code... LOL. It seems like it's going to keep throwing all the codes from that O2 until we just disable them all...? Why does the ETS pipe cause this issue?

I guess looking at the design, was it supposed to help limit the gases that reach the O2 sensors, instead of being directly in the stream, to give it lower readings from a non catted pipe?

Car runs fine, keeping an eye on everything. It just stinks losing cruise control... I wish I could get the file that actually loads into the Race software so I can disable them myself and not bother them.

They will keep popping up even six months from now. I know, I went through it.

Delete these codes.
P0037, P013A, P013B, P013F, P0141, P113A, P2270, P0136, P0137, P0138, P0139, P0140, and P0141.
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Old 08-07-2015, 10:37 AM   #8
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They will keep popping up even six months from now. I know, I went through it.

Delete these codes.
P0037, P013A, P013B, P013F, P0141, P113A, P2270, P0136, P0137, P0138, P0139, P0140, and P0141.
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Old 09-01-2015, 07:23 PM   #9
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Just had the P013A code come up for the third time over the past 2.5-3 months. I just clear it with the ap and goes away for a few weeks and then comes back. I'm also on the ETS catless Jpipe but the newer edition without the 90 degree bend. Do you guys still think it just has something to do with the jpipe and what should I do to fix it?
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Old 12-16-2015, 07:55 PM   #10
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i also have the same pipe. im geting the p113A code. i bought a new sensor ..still comes back on. im going to see a tuner this month
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Old 12-16-2015, 10:57 PM   #11
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Just had the P013A code come up for the third time over the past 2.5-3 months. I just clear it with the ap and goes away for a few weeks and then comes back. I'm also on the ETS catless Jpipe but the newer edition without the 90 degree bend. Do you guys still think it just has something to do with the jpipe and what should I do to fix it?


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i also have the same pipe. im geting the p113A code. i bought a new sensor ..still comes back on. im going to see a tuner this month


They will keep popping up even six months from now. I know, I went through it.

Delete these codes.
P0037, P013A, P013B, P013F, P0141, P113A, P2270, P0136, P0137, P0138, P0139, P0140, and P0141.
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Old 04-07-2016, 12:41 PM   #12
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Thanks yall this helped me out. Wasn't the wiring and i am glad i did not purchase a new one hoping that would get rid of the issue. Looks like a Pro tune is in order. I am already stocking other parts for the tune in May we have here. Until then I will battle this code whenever it appears.

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Old 05-04-2016, 09:59 AM   #13
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So I have the ETS catted Jpipe and the P113A code popped up in me. It went away that day and hasn't come back. I messaged my tuner and he said if he disables the light then it won't pass inspection. I brought up the fact that certain things like TGV deletes would pop a code but are able to turn it off and still pass inspection so I'm confused. A buddy of mine said to install a O2 spacer but that just doesn't seem right. Any insight on this?
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Old 05-05-2016, 11:38 AM   #14
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So I have the ETS catted Jpipe and the P113A code popped up in me. It went away that day and hasn't come back. I messaged my tuner and he said if he disables the light then it won't pass inspection. I brought up the fact that certain things like TGV deletes would pop a code but are able to turn it off and still pass inspection so I'm confused. A buddy of mine said to install a O2 spacer but that just doesn't seem right. Any insight on this?
Sounds like your tuner is both lazy and ignorant.

You'll pass just fine with codes turned off.
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Old 05-06-2016, 01:50 AM   #15
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So I have the ETS catted Jpipe and the P113A code popped up in me. It went away that day and hasn't come back. I messaged my tuner and he said if he disables the light then it won't pass inspection. I brought up the fact that certain things like TGV deletes would pop a code but are able to turn it off and still pass inspection so I'm confused. A buddy of mine said to install a O2 spacer but that just doesn't seem right. Any insight on this?
So I just got pro tuned today with a Catted Depo Racing J-Pipe which is the same configuration as the ETS. After the pro tune got done about 50 miles in I got a P0137 and I went back to the pro tuner and they said the same thing. "We don't disable the emissions codes - your 2nd O2 must be broke" - so the solution they have offered is to have me replace the 02 then when that doesn't work they want me to pay for a new J-Pipe and then pay for a full re-tune. I am very skeptical of it working based on what I have seen. I am wondering if welding on a bung in a "normal" position would fix it. I would rather not pay $1000 to resolve this and have to retune.

What I don't understand is how TGV/EGR codes being deleted don't count as emissions codes when the secondary 02 does?

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Old 06-24-2016, 01:50 PM   #16
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Ask them kindly for a copy of their tune that is unlocked so you can turn the codes off yourself.

If they don't let you, tell them that you'll be happy to drive the car over to them, have them pull up your file, and you'll click the buttons to turn off the O2 codes.

If they STILL don't do this, chargeback and find a real tuner.
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Old 08-18-2016, 02:51 AM   #17
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So I just got pro tuned today with a Catted Depo Racing J-Pipe which is the same configuration as the ETS. After the pro tune got done about 50 miles in I got a P0137 and I went back to the pro tuner and they said the same thing. "We don't disable the emissions codes - your 2nd O2 must be broke" - so the solution they have offered is to have me replace the 02 then when that doesn't work they want me to pay for a new J-Pipe and then pay for a full re-tune. I am very skeptical of it working based on what I have seen. I am wondering if welding on a bung in a "normal" position would fix it. I would rather not pay $1000 to resolve this and have to retune.

What I don't understand is how TGV/EGR codes being deleted don't count as emissions codes when the secondary 02 does?
Bro how did you fix your problem? Let me know plz cuz we have the same MODs and same problem,and im having thise prob for 5 months already, thank you
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Old 09-03-2016, 03:54 AM   #18
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They will keep popping up even six months from now. I know, I went through it.

Delete these codes.
P0037, P013A, P013B, P013F, P0141, P113A, P2270, P0136, P0137, P0138, P0139, P0140, and P0141.

I've had the exact problems but with P0137.. By everything that I've been reading I'm throwing the CEL due to the design of the ETS catless J-pipe. Cause I'm not getting any leaks happening anywhere.. Am I just going to have to keep clearing the code? Cause it come on about an hour after driving or so. And since the exhaust is Catless does it really matter if the 02 censor is shorting low? Thanks
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Sensor #2 is the rear O2 sensor. The code you're experiencing is pretty common on the ETS hardware due to the unique placement of the O2 sensor in the "90 degree O2 bung" you're describing. You'll likely need to find a Protuner or grab a copy of ATR in order to address the DTC, assuming this is an offroad-only vehicle. Replacing the sensor will likely not change the behavior. Alternately, a J-pipe that keeps the O2 sensor in a "normal" position (IE, not with a 90 degree extension) should not cause the issue.

Cheers

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I have the ETS Catted JPIPE on my protuned '16WRX and occasionally getting the CEL P0137. Are you saying it is safe to have my tuner disable the code? I had read somewhere that the second 02 sensor provides feedback for fuel trims and looking for clarification. Thank you.
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