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09-01-2005, 12:31 AM | #51 |
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Any comments on Edit 2 above? Am I just not understanding where the seals go?
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09-01-2005, 12:47 AM | #52 | |
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...31&postcount=5 Guru P.S. I edited that portion of the directions, thanks. These are the proper steps during assembly. Assembly of Hub Press the following items in this order. 1. Bearing (inside out) 2. Seal (outer seal, before inserting hub) 3. Hub (outside in) 4. Seal (inner), the seal with the lip is the outer seal, lip goes pointing towards the wheel and acts as a dust shield) |
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09-01-2005, 03:30 AM | #53 |
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Good stuff, thanks, Guru.
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09-03-2005, 12:00 PM | #54 | |
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09-09-2005, 02:00 AM | #55 |
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I need help with the bearings...
Are the Koyo OEM? or just aftermarket replacement? WHich one's better? |
09-09-2005, 05:42 AM | #56 | |
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09-09-2005, 11:51 PM | #57 |
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replacing my wheel bearings this weekend. already disassembled, just need to take the knuckles to a machine shop to get them pressed, unless i can find a friend with one. thanks for the write up.
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09-10-2005, 06:51 PM | #58 | |
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pat, i went to pep boys and picked up the bearing, and the inner and outer seals. the bearing is in a blue box marked skf, part no fw176. the seals are in green boxes marked CR(chicago rawhide) part no's 22038 and 22026. well, that pepboys didn't have a working press so i took the knuckle to another one on the southside. i just got a call from them saying that "it's done, but that was the wrong part(gonna figure this out when i get there) and you still need a front seal " |
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09-11-2005, 01:33 AM | #59 |
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you guys happen to know how much the hub cost? I took it to my bro's shop and realized that my hub is pretty much gone too.
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09-11-2005, 02:10 AM | #60 | ||
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09-23-2005, 08:02 AM | #61 |
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Anyone know the part number for the hub?
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09-23-2005, 08:21 AM | #62 | |
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i don tknow if its something anyone stocks normally unless you want to go junk-yard hopping for a rex. and jack the knuckle off for now lol. |
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09-23-2005, 08:22 AM | #63 |
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09-23-2005, 08:33 AM | #64 | |
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09-23-2005, 01:09 PM | #65 |
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Hey Everyone, I've been keeping up with this tread and thanks for the awesome write up and all the input! I have an 02 WRX wagon with ~85K miles and for the last.. say 6K+ miles... I've started hearing the "whrrrrrrrrrrr" sound and am pretty sure it's the bearings. Thing is, it's gotten louder over the last few months and I still can't tell which wheel it's coming from. I've put the car on stands and tried to jiggle each wheel to see if there is any play, but I couldn't find anything noticeable. Also, after driving, I put a temperature probe to each hub to see if any one was hotter than the others and I still came up with nothing. As I'm driving, it seems like it's coming from the front left but how can I tell for sure which wheel it's coming from?
Also, tho I'm mechanically inclined, I'm afraid that I'd mess something up by changing out the bearings myself. I don't know who'd have a press and has experience with pressing in/out bearings. Also, this is my daily driver so I can't have it out of commission for more than a day. Any thoughts? Should I just take it to the dealership to get them replaced? Or if I do it myself, anybody know of a reliable shop in the SF Bay Area (preferable easy bay) that can press out the bearings? Your advice is much appreciated. |
09-24-2005, 12:58 AM | #66 |
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when you jiggle it, you're suppose to jiggle it vertically 12 and 6 o'clock. push in on top and pull out at bottom and vice versa. if it moves, that means your wheel bearing is bad and possibly the hub as well.
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09-30-2005, 11:58 AM | #67 |
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Just thought I would add to this thread since my passenger front wheel bearing was done last night.
We did my wheel bearing without taking the two lower strut bolts off. This way, my alignment did not get compromised by moving the top camber bolt. I unbolted the strut top bolt and left the two bottom strut bracket bolts bolted to the hub. It takes a little bit of creativity to get it to fit in the press with the strut still attached, but it can be done rather easily. Chris |
09-30-2005, 02:48 PM | #68 |
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Chris- it's still possible w/ the removal/reinstall of the knuckle that toe could still be thrown off- might not be a lot, but definitely possible. Just something to consider.
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10-01-2005, 02:43 AM | #69 |
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I just max out my camber anyway, so it's a no-brainer to throw the eccentric bolt in there and rotate it until the marks are lined up properly.
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10-01-2005, 03:48 AM | #70 |
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10-04-2005, 11:32 AM | #71 |
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I have located the higher speciffication bearings through www.bearingdepot.com. They are original NTN and are not even expensive. My question though is that even though they have a higher load rating, they could have a lower RPM rating or a lower heat rating.
Call and ask for George, they even have them in stock, they are less than $50/unit. I even managed to receive a call back from a gentleman from NTN that showed sympathy towards the suby cause and promised to call back with more info, but was cautious in terms of the higher spec bearings using terms like "performance envelope" about them. Any volunteers to try these on? Vlad Last edited by Vlad; 10-04-2005 at 11:40 AM. |
10-04-2005, 01:09 PM | #72 |
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As discussed in this thread - http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=837916 (which perversely enough refers to this thread ) - I never got a definitive response from SKF Seals on whether the bearings were interchangeable or not. Just based on the application, though, I can't imagine there'd be a lower RPM rating. I wouldn't expect any difference in heat/thermal rating either, as that part was intended to be a front wheel bearing on FWD cars, so it's not going to be seeing any more stress than it would have in the intended application.
If you had posted this news a month or so ago I would have been happy to try them out. However, I've already replaced both of mine, so it looks like it's up to you to be the guinea pig. Pat |
10-07-2005, 10:46 AM | #73 |
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I've ordered the CRI 0823. My Pep Boys did not have anything available. I am looking to source the best replacement for the Subaru seals, anybody know who originally makes them?
And it's interesting, because the the 0823 are definitely heavier than the originals. |
10-07-2005, 02:44 PM | #74 | |
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10-07-2005, 03:29 PM | #75 |
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I'm reading the weight. I want to see them physically before I make up my mind regarding the grease.
Also, I need to do some more reading on the forum, because I was following a tread about a Subaru TSB that advised clearly against packing bearings with grease. I need further details as far as the part number it refers to. I thought it refers to front bearings or maybe all wheel bearings. Or maybe it refers to replacement with Subaru genuine part which now is not anymore the curently discussed series, but something sealed. If packing is necessary, I want to do some more reading about what's available, temperature wise but also pressure wise and see what exactly is Subaru using with that upgraded 114 mm patern hub. Vlad |
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