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02-10-2013, 03:02 AM | #1 |
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Heat sinked IC piping
I have an idea which I am sure been discussed before. I want to now some experts opinions.
I am at the process of doing V mount intercooler setup. Main reason is to shorten piping for more responsive car. Location of the intercooler behind the front grill and a rotated turbo gives me straight hotside pipe from turbo compressor to intercooler inlet. Which should be like 20" (with 60 degree bend at the compressor outlet) This pipe will be passing on top of the engine and it will increase the intake air temperature if i am not mistaken (will the air out of compressor hotter than engine bay ?) Either way, I want to increase cooling performance of my system. What about using intercooling piping with heatsinks on them ? Now we have heatsinks but the engine bay is already hot and the heatsinks will store more heat and transfer it to the pipe. What about we cover this heat sink pipe with a larger pipe and get the open end in front of the car and let air pass between two pipes. That way fresh air will be cooling the heatsinks and hot side intercooler piping will stay cool inside the engine bay. They sell these heatsink pipes in 2" ID so getting a 3" pipe over it should do it. Here is my Ms paint sketch (Heat sink pipe will be longer) Last edited by Serkan; 02-10-2013 at 04:04 PM. |
02-10-2013, 03:45 AM | #2 |
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Thinking more about the fitment, I doubt there is enough room to fit 3" pipe top of the intake manifold.
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02-10-2013, 04:47 PM | #3 |
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The air in the pipe is moving very quickly, and very little heat gets transferred to and from the pipe and charge air. I can't see that doing much of anything.
If you want to increase the performance you should build ducting for the coolers. |
02-10-2013, 05:04 PM | #4 | |
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Yes, but wouldn't the constant heat being transferred from engine to hot side pipe reach to the core and increase the intercooler temperature ? Ducting is for sure. |
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02-10-2013, 06:39 PM | #5 |
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Just wrap the pipe with heat reflective material.
http://www.thermotec.com/products/14...at-shield.html http://www.heatshieldproducts.com/pr...e-system/62/49 |
02-10-2013, 07:49 PM | #6 |
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Yea, I think I am worrying too much.
Idea is simple but fabricating this in limited space is not worth it. I will just wrap the pipes, make good ducting and ventilate the engine bay good so the heat is not trapped in there. Last edited by Serkan; 02-10-2013 at 08:12 PM. |
02-10-2013, 07:53 PM | #7 |
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I tried that heat reflective material around all my pipes on an old GSX I had back in the day. I don't think it really did much, even during long summer drives and highway fun. If you can fit the 3" pipe overtop of the heatsunk intercooler piping you could definitely start seeing some gains.
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02-10-2013, 08:25 PM | #8 |
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Air is passing through the tube too fast for it to matter. The point of the intercooler is to slow the air and provide a HUGE surface area for heat transfer. If the intercooler is heat sinking it's either too small, not an efficient design or both. You won't see anything from that tube even if it was ice chilled.
Don't discount the gold reflective tape. On an OEM setup (TMIC) I used it on the inside of the OEM heat shield and intercooler sides. Under low speed (low airflow through the engine bay) saw a consistent 30-40 temp drop at the intercooler and intake manifold. |
02-11-2013, 04:02 AM | #9 |
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The effectiveness of the set up will depend on the thermal conductive property of the ali tube.
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02-11-2013, 03:50 PM | #10 |
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You're treating the tube as a heat exchanger which would depend on the efficiency of the tube and the delta between the internal and external temperatures.
It's not entirely hair brained but it would be a lot of effort for low payoff. |
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