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Old 09-22-2009, 05:03 PM   #1326
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heres new ones. diff WB, no unsharp mask, no clarify. and didnt touch the other settings since it was only like +5 from stock settings.
I like these better, but they can still use a tiny bit of unsharp mask. What are you using for your unsharp mask settings usually?
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Old 09-22-2009, 05:31 PM   #1327
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i didnt use unsharp mask on these last 2, i usually use lightrooms sharpening. then sometimes i would use, photoshops unsharp mask. 100%. radius 6. and threshhold 30% or watever
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:00 PM   #1328
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i didnt use unsharp mask on these last 2, i usually use lightrooms sharpening. then sometimes i would use, photoshops unsharp mask. 100%. radius 6. and threshhold 30% or watever
Okay, well that's probably one of the issues. 100% unsharp mask is way too much...I rarely ever go over 50, and most photos get 35, with a radius of 1.0 pixels and 0 threshold. Give that a try
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:27 AM   #1329
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The only things I know I need to change is just to have some variety. But what are your thoughts?
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:39 AM   #1330
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I very much believe you can still take good shots with this camera, even if the manual mode kinda sucks. You'll obviously be limited by the lack of control of shutter speed and aperture, but that doesn't mean you can't do good compositions with it. I often find that when I have my camera hardware as a limiting factor, I try to get more creative with my photography. This means trying to use very low or very high angles, making use of the macro mode you mentioned, or simply trying to do things that you normally couldn't do with a big DSLR due to size alone.
Are you familiar with the S3 IS? I have a problem even at ISO 200 with grain showing up in the pics. like the other evening I did a shot of one of me vehicles to sell it and it was later in the evening but still light enough for pictures. I had 1/8th for shutter speed and an F of 3.6 and still had grain.

I don't seem to like messing with anything other than 100ISO because it seems like 200+ just doesn't perform right.

If anyone is familiar with the camera I could use any tips related to it.
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:20 AM   #1331
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these 2 are my fav!! good job bret. is this with the 85mm f1.4 or something???
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:52 AM   #1332
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Ot's with an 85 f1.8, I just wasn't willing to put up the extra $$$ for the 2 stops. Thanks though, we still need a photoshoot.
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:30 AM   #1333
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sweeet do you know how comparable it is to the 105mm f2.8, 135mm f2 or the 70-200mm f2.8???

i want one of these for my next lens!
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I personally find the streetlights in the background to be a little distracting. Try moving the car to another spot so they're not so noticable and I think things might be even better. Other than that, the DOF seems nice.

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Be careful about what might be growing out of your car from the background- in this case, two funny lumps.

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This is my favorite location, and the light is fantastic- but you're placed the car in front of the only distraction available- that lift device thing. You could pull the car closer to the camera location and move yourself back to eliminate it, or just move to another hangar to camera left.

Basically, your shots are great, I just think you just need to pay better attention to get cleaner backgrounds.
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sweeet do you know how comparable it is to the 105mm f2.8, 135mm f2 or the 70-200mm f2.8???

i want one of these for my next lens!
The IQ from the 85/1.8 is quite outstanding. It was my go-to portrait lens back in the film days, and I still shoot quite a lot with it today. My copy has got to be at least 15 years old. It's a great lens for basketball and other low-light indoor sports, surpassing the 80-200 in terms of image quality and that extra punch in bad lighting. It's probably my favorite lens, really, and for the money (like $300, I think) it's outstanding. The extra stop you gain with the 1.4 is really not worth it, as the 1.8 does everything you'd ever need from it.
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The IQ from the 85/1.8 is quite outstanding. It was my go-to portrait lens back in the film days, and I still shoot quite a lot with it today. My copy has got to be at least 15 years old. It's a great lens for basketball and other low-light indoor sports, surpassing the 80-200 in terms of image quality and that extra punch in bad lighting. It's probably my favorite lens, really, and for the money (like $300, I think) it's outstanding. The extra stop you gain with the 1.4 is really not worth it, as the 1.8 does everything you'd ever need from it.
thanks, and how is it compared to the 105 and 135??

its just really difficult to choose cuz ive heard/seen good things about all of them, but i might go with the best and cheapest lens out of those, if there all kinda of similar
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:25 PM   #1337
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The only things I know I need to change is just to have some variety. But what are your thoughts?
Good stuff. Just remember the rule of thirds, especially in that last shot that's really centered. They're all pretty dark too, but whether it was intentional or not, I do like it Oh, and as NewsPhotog said, be mindful of your surroundings and what might be growing out of the car. 85mm f/1.8 FTW!
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:28 PM   #1338
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Are you familiar with the S3 IS? I have a problem even at ISO 200 with grain showing up in the pics. like the other evening I did a shot of one of me vehicles to sell it and it was later in the evening but still light enough for pictures. I had 1/8th for shutter speed and an F of 3.6 and still had grain.

I don't seem to like messing with anything other than 100ISO because it seems like 200+ just doesn't perform right.

If anyone is familiar with the camera I could use any tips related to it.
I totally hear you on ISO, that's one of the biggest issues with point and shoot cameras especially. However, using a tripod with the lowest ISO setting (100 in your case) can help cure that problem, at the expense of course with having to rely on longer shutter speeds. Depending on the amount of grain too, a lot of that can be cleaned up with anti-noise programs like Noise Ninja.
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:38 PM   #1339
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The IQ from the 85/1.8 is quite outstanding. It was my go-to portrait lens back in the film days, and I still shoot quite a lot with it today. My copy has got to be at least 15 years old. It's a great lens for basketball and other low-light indoor sports, surpassing the 80-200 in terms of image quality and that extra punch in bad lighting. It's probably my favorite lens, really, and for the money (like $300, I think) it's outstanding. The extra stop you gain with the 1.4 is really not worth it, as the 1.8 does everything you'd ever need from it.
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thanks, and how is it compared to the 105 and 135??

its just really difficult to choose cuz ive heard/seen good things about all of them, but i might go with the best and cheapest lens out of those, if there all kinda of similar
IMHO the 85mm f/1.8 is the way to go. It's smaller and lighter, thus easier to control (especially without any sort of VR). Plus, while f/1.8 isn't too different from f/2, it still makes a bit of a difference, especially in low-light situations. My 85mm f/1.8 is my sharpest lens by far, and i use mine similarly to what NewsPhotog describes. Examples from mine:





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Old 09-24-2009, 02:10 PM   #1340
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thanks armin, 85mm is the way to go!!
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Old 09-25-2009, 01:00 AM   #1341
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I totally hear you on ISO, that's one of the biggest issues with point and shoot cameras especially. However, using a tripod with the lowest ISO setting (100 in your case) can help cure that problem, at the expense of course with having to rely on longer shutter speeds. Depending on the amount of grain too, a lot of that can be cleaned up with anti-noise programs like Noise Ninja.
that's the thing, I was using a tripod w/ the shots I was doing and I also used a second delay. that way I was sure not to be touching anything while it was taking the shot.

I wish I could find a power adapter for dirt cheap that I could use with the camera so I don't have to suck up so many batteries with it. I normally try to keep it at 80-100 ISO but I don't know what the deal is with it.

I'm hoping that I can get a true DSLR after a few more months but yeah I still need to work more with the cam I have though in the time being. I've had it for a few years but haven't ever really messed with low light shots all that much.

It was a top notch PS cam when I got it now it's so damn out dated it's just ridiculous. Hell even the D90 has an ISO ability of what 3200 (6400 with boost)... but what's with the lowest ISO being 200?

for the S3 my aperture range is only 2.7-3.5 and ISO range is 80,100,200,400 and 800.

Should it respond like any other camera is with adjustable shutter speed and F stop and all. I mean yeah it's only a PS but shouldn't there be some correlation between abilities or am I just thinking entirely wrong?
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Old 09-25-2009, 10:11 AM   #1342
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BoneJi I also have an S3, and now an S5. I like them for the great zoom lense. I must admit I have not tried to make seriously good exposures with them....the reason is I also have a Canon A85 that rivals the S series in picture quality. I do believe the complexity of the lens in the S series limits the camera from taking great quality shots.

I did buy a Pentax DSLR but did not like it....ended up the camera had a factory fault with exposure, got it fixed but still did not trust it so sold it. I'd suggest getting a good used DSLR if you are serious about photography. People often want the best cameras, so lots of good used ones are out there.

PS. You should get some good rechargables for you camera, I really like sanyo, they last a lot longer than disposables.

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Old 09-25-2009, 02:10 PM   #1343
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that's the thing, I was using a tripod w/ the shots I was doing and I also used a second delay. that way I was sure not to be touching anything while it was taking the shot.

I wish I could find a power adapter for dirt cheap that I could use with the camera so I don't have to suck up so many batteries with it. I normally try to keep it at 80-100 ISO but I don't know what the deal is with it.

I'm hoping that I can get a true DSLR after a few more months but yeah I still need to work more with the cam I have though in the time being. I've had it for a few years but haven't ever really messed with low light shots all that much.

It was a top notch PS cam when I got it now it's so damn out dated it's just ridiculous. Hell even the D90 has an ISO ability of what 3200 (6400 with boost)... but what's with the lowest ISO being 200?

for the S3 my aperture range is only 2.7-3.5 and ISO range is 80,100,200,400 and 800.

Should it respond like any other camera is with adjustable shutter speed and F stop and all. I mean yeah it's only a PS but shouldn't there be some correlation between abilities or am I just thinking entirely wrong?
It may simply be how the S3 performs overall. Here's a review of the camera I found on DP Review:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canons3is/

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However there are a couple of qualifications to the last statement: firstly the best results by far are to be had at ISO 80 or 100; at ISO 200 the noise reduction, though effective, tends to smudge low contrast fine detail a bit too much for my liking, and ISO 400 and 800 produce results that look quite grainy (noise reduction software helps, and as mentioned elsewhere, Canon has at least resisted the temptation to use high NR in-camera, so there's still some detail there).
Unfortunately, as they mention, there's really only so much you can do about the noise. Noise is always going to be an issue for any point-and-shoot camera, especially since even many DSLRs struggle with it as well. As for the lowest ISO being 200 on the D90, that's default, but you can actually boost it down to ISO 100. It's the same thing with the D300 as well...I'm not totally sure what the reasoning is for it, but keep in mind nonetheless that ISO 200 on a D90 is going to be as clear (if not more clear) than ISO 100 on your S3, just simply because the technology is newer.
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Hey Verdugo,

I just came across this thread - great work! Keep it up.
Check out http://GravityBureau.com whenever you get a chance. Here are a few of our snaps:















Do you have any tips on car-rig setups? I've been reading up on this thread: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=490505.
Suction-cup rigs seem to work pretty well, like in this shot:




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Hey Armin just wanted to drop a few shots in here for your critque. I like the pictures I take now but I want to get better

First pic, my friend's MR2. Aside from the car being slightly off center and the white balance (He wanted all the pictures to have yellowish tint/warm feel to them since he is hanging them in his house), how is the shot?

I've had this shot in my head forever, but executed it a little late in the season. Just wanted the car to be parked along the main strip at the beach with people looking or casually walking behind the car.


Figured the garage structure could make a nice border.


and one last one...The ground is a bit blown out is the only thing I see wrong.
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Sirricealot I'm not one to judge too much, but my $0.02 on the last one:

Hot spot on the driver fender
Passenger side is extremely dark
Personally (My influence is from another board member lol) I would've backed up quite a bit more, extend the lens and bring some depth into the picture and position the car in the lower right portion
Maybe move the car to it's left a bit to take advantage of the light source above you more
Angle the car a bit more to give some exposure to the side you want to exploit

As far as the good, #3 seems to be different and I like it, a little more space between the curb and the car (so you're not cutting the car off) would've been a little better but the "border" that you were going for is actually pretty cool, that orange and your car color is awesome in my opinion

You did quite a bit right as far as basics and some important pieces (wheel angle, height, etc...) though! We all have a lot to learn from Armin, it's great that he's gracious (and UL and NewsPhotog) to offer assistance to those of us that have plenty to learn!
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Hey Armin, here's a couple more I took. I took your advice on the second pic and shot it with the camera 9feet up.





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I just came across this thread - great work! Keep it up.
Check out http://GravityBureau.com whenever you get a chance. Here are a few of our snaps:


Do you have any tips on car-rig setups? I've been reading up on this thread: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=490505.
Suction-cup rigs seem to work pretty well, like in this shot:


Cheers!
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Nice shots, and thanks for the kind words! As far as rig shots go, I honestly don't have any tips simply because I don't have a rig myself, and can only speak from the experience from friends of mine. I would actually talk to Ultimate Lurker about his rig, since he built it himself and has been taking a number of shots with it lately

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Sirricealot I'm not one to judge too much, but my $0.02 on the last one:

Hot spot on the driver fender
Passenger side is extremely dark
Personally (My influence is from another board member lol) I would've backed up quite a bit more, extend the lens and bring some depth into the picture and position the car in the lower right portion
Maybe move the car to it's left a bit to take advantage of the light source above you more
Angle the car a bit more to give some exposure to the side you want to exploit

As far as the good, #3 seems to be different and I like it, a little more space between the curb and the car (so you're not cutting the car off) would've been a little better but the "border" that you were going for is actually pretty cool, that orange and your car color is awesome in my opinion

You did quite a bit right as far as basics and some important pieces (wheel angle, height, etc...) though! We all have a lot to learn from Armin, it's great that he's gracious (and UL and NewsPhotog) to offer assistance to those of us that have plenty to learn!
This is very good advice, and I really don't have much more to add to it. The only thing that strikes me out of all the ones you've posted is that they're all very centered. It works in most of these cases because there's a border for the car, but I'd just make sure not to make a habit of it. I like the processing you did with the STI by the Sea photo, but I don't like the fact that the driver is looking toward the camera. I probably wouldn't even have a driver in the photo to begin with though. I'd also be careful about oversharpening in all the photos...you definitely don't want the wheels and tires to have a jagged edge to them Otherwise, great work!
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Hey Armin, here's a couple more I took. I took your advice on the second pic and shot it with the camera 9 feet up.

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Good stuff Dre, I really like the first shot. The angle on the second shot is great, but the problem with it being a black car is that the reflection from the lights overhead take away from the photo. There's really not much you can do about it unfortunately...a polarizer would help, but you'd still probably have to Photoshop out the reflections, even if they're a bit more manageable. That's just one of the disadvantages of the location that you're shooting at. Keep it up...hopefully you can take one of the cars outside for some photos
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