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Old 06-28-2013, 04:18 PM   #1
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Default Noob vs. 2002 bugeye RS 2.5

New subi owner/member here, I had been lurking around on Craig's for a deal to pounce on and well, instead I took the impulsive, impatient route and ended up with that recon 2002 bugeye RS in chugiak.
Really just need some solid advice before I start dumpin the dollars.
Is it more trouble than its worth?

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Has body damage ill get pics of and its minus a few random low cost parts
Pretty sure it'll need a tranny and smelt some oil but didn't have a chance to diagnose.
Motor seems solid. no slaps/knocks, smoke plumes or flames

It seems to run and drive fine but has a godawful tick that's supposedly the transaxel that gets louder with speed.

Any advice or knowledge you can bestow upon me will be greatly appreciated.
Also, if she's a keeper ill be needing replacement 5 speed if someone's holdin.
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Old 06-28-2013, 04:31 PM   #2
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anything can be fast or look nice with alot of money. Do you have alot of money?
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Old 06-28-2013, 04:42 PM   #3
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I don't, but I have enough to have some fun. Anxious to dive in but figure a 2nd, 3rd or 4th opinion couldn't hurt. Ill post pics as soon as it lets me
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Old 06-28-2013, 04:50 PM   #4
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Subarus in general are money pits. wether you have a WRX or an STi or an RS. You wanna have fun? Aim for a goal, and let her rip tater chip
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:05 PM   #5
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I'm not as concerned with spending as I am with the purchase in general..ready to start collecting parts to start build just lookin for some personal opinions regarding the whole situation. Basically, if you didn't have resources to fund an STI or wrx is this a route you'd consider taking? New to the subi world just tryin to gather any useful advice before doing anything drastic.
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:09 PM   #6
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Sounds like you need to focus on mechanical first.

Clean the engine, change fluids, check hoses, pull the wheels, check brakes, wheel bearings and climb around underneath it. Once you have a solid mechanical car then you can look cosmetic and performance mods.

Just my $0.02
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:25 PM   #7
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Sounds like you need to focus on mechanical first.

Clean the engine, change fluids, check hoses, pull the wheels, check brakes, wheel bearings and climb around underneath it. Once you have a solid mechanical car then you can look cosmetic and performance mods.

Just my $0.02
100% agree with this. Start with a good foundation, then work your way up from there. I like watching these guys with older guys buy upgraded parts as they fix them. Like if they have to get new rotors they get aftermarket ones. Or new tires and wheels? Get the ones you really want. I dunno, I just like the thought of replacing old stuff with new, better things. But I don't like the thought of adding new, ADDITIONAL things when original things need to be replaced sooner.

On my RS I had to get new wheel bearings, heating element for the dash, radiator, thermostat, and eventually two new engines.
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Old 06-28-2013, 05:31 PM   #8
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Agree 100% and that's the dilemma. With body damage, tranny and whatever else pops up I was starting to question if she's worth the effort.

Anyways, thanks for comments. I'm just gonna go for it and think happy thoughts.
Ill be upgrading Radom stock parts next few weeks. Anyone need stocker parts lemme know
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:43 PM   #9
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Default ...And so it begins

Well tonight's the beginning of either a great success or a horrible failure.
My cousin lettin me strip his 02 RS with blown motor so tranny comin out and things will be Rollin soon
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:55 PM   #10
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You'll be fine... Best way to learn is to do... And there's plenty of knowledge on this board.
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Old 06-29-2013, 04:05 PM   #11
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Any suggestions for cheap, quality body work? Trannys ready to go in just waitin on my buddies garage. Figure I could get her lookin at least decent in the mean time.
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Old 06-29-2013, 04:09 PM   #12
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Any suggestions for cheap, quality body work?

These two words are NOT synonymous with each other. They are diametrically opposed to each other.

You can have one but not the other.
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Old 06-29-2013, 04:16 PM   #13
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There are some folks on here that can give you pointers... I'm a big fan of DIY.

Depending on damage you have some options... Need some Pics for better direction.
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Old 06-29-2013, 04:41 PM   #14
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There are some folks on here that can give you pointers... I'm a big fan of DIY.

Depending on damage you have some options... Need some Pics for better direction.
Pics of damage are a few scrolls upward.
THANK YOU for not just putting some vague, passive comment.
Seems to be a breeding ground for such. Found its better to let those who wanna help do so, asking around has only provided me with usernames of about 10 deusch bags in the area and a headache.
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Old 06-29-2013, 04:50 PM   #15
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Plan to replace the fenders, I can help with that rear quarter panel... Once it's mobile you can bring it by my place and we can take care it.

Some members choose to share their ideas, others share their opinions.

Happy to help
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Old 06-29-2013, 04:57 PM   #16
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When you want to see better during the 5-6 months of darkness, I can help with forward lighting done right(no blinding everyone unless you want to).
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Old 06-29-2013, 05:12 PM   #17
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When you want to see better during the 5-6 months of darkness, I can help with forward lighting done right(no blinding everyone unless you want to).
That'd be great man, thnx. ill msg you after I drop the tranny in. Don't know jack about lighting, I'm lookin into it now
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Old 06-29-2013, 05:15 PM   #18
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Plan to replace the fenders, I can help with that rear quarter panel... Once it's mobile you can bring it by my place and we can take care it.

Some members choose to share their ideas, others share their opinions.

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Perfect! Yeah that rear section is what I was worried about, fenders seem easy enough. Ill contact when she's ready. Thnx again.
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:02 PM   #19
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Really just need some solid advice before I start dumpin the dollars.
Is it more trouble than its worth?
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With body damage, tranny and whatever else pops up I was starting to question if she's worth the effort.

Seems like a lot of work for just an RS. Then again Sonny has gone thru some work for his and I like his RS.

Guess depends on the price you got it for as a baseline. Personally I just feel starting from a WRX is a better choice as a project car. Either way a car project is going to be a money dump no matter what lol.
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:10 PM   #20
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I'll occasionally put money in to mine, but it's not worth putting a lot in to.
Just get yours up and running and decide what you want to do from there.
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:35 PM   #21
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[quote=EvolvedAK;40115729]Seems like a lot of work for just an RS. Then again Sonny has gone thru some work for his and I like his RS.

Guess depends on the price you got it for as a baseline. Personally I just feel starting from a WRX is a better choice as a project car. Either way a car project is going to be a money dump no matter what

Sadly cant afford wrx insurance, came across this little guy, I ended up paying 1100 For it. Runs and drives great but the tranny makes a lot of noise. The plan is a wrx conversion but until I can afford the parts just gonna throw stock tranny in it and get er lookin pretty
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:45 PM   #22
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I completely understand the insurance problem. Mine used to be $425 monthly years ago.

I'm not sure what you were given as a quote but keep this in mind:

The insurance may be high but ultimately how much are you going to spend trying to just be a wrx, when instead you can just go out and buy a wrx. What you're planning, even by going thru just local help will cost you thousands and thousands of dollars in just parts. Then you most likely will end up needing professional help, so add on some labor. In the end when you try and sell it'll still only be a RS w/ swap if you get that far. So you'll take another hit because it just won't be worth the same in value.

Not trying to discourage you but sometimes you have to think and go over what makes sense financially. What's a few hundred dollars in insurance every 6 months compared to thousands and thousands yanno?

I wish you the best of luck but it's definitely something to think about. Lots of have entered the Subie world with the same goals, most eventually said screw it and just went WRX. They would have saved more by doing so earlier as well. The difference between an RS bugeye and a WRX based on what I've seen on Craigs isn't much.


Edit: I just saw the 1100 price. That's pretty damn cheap. I agree with AKRS' post above in regards to this then.

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Old 06-29-2013, 09:39 PM   #23
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You can end up with a fun to drive car that handles great and is unstoppable in the snow. If you want something as fast as a WRX, then buy one and go from there. If you want a turbo drive train, start there. I love my N/A car but straight line acceleration isn't its strong point, FYI.
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