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Old 02-23-2012, 03:04 PM   #201
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Anyone see the newest Portlandia episode that featured the new Impreza?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-baV-xULLk


This is sooo Portland!
Wow, that was uploaded by Subaru!
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:03 PM   #202
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Maybe he put some miles on his car and wanted to remove any (albeit small) debris that could have gotten on the car just prior to waxing?

I'm too lazy, I haven't even waxed it yet.
Warning: Calibri Castle follows.

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Waxing doesn't hurt and it can preserve your car's finish to some degree, but the linear polyurethane clears used by all manufactures now makes waxing practically obsolete. Notice I say "practically." The clearcoat on modern cars is BY FAR the thickest part of the paint job and it is an order of magnitude more durable than old lacquers and enamels. And forget about those horrible water-born clears of the '80s. You've seen them -- the cars that look like they have leprosy and have driven through 100 Sahara sand storms.

Of course, the wax manufactures won't tell you this. And, again, wax won't hurt the paint. Some of the premium waxes actually fluoresce under sunlight and artificial light, making them shine brightly.

The main benefit of wax on modern finishes is to trap the airborne contaminants such as those the clay bars remove before those contaminants ever reach the paint [clearcoat]. But those contaminants usually hit the car with enough force to weasel past the wax into the paint. After all, the wax coat is all but immeasurably thin.

The failure point with modern car finishes is the interface between primer and color coat. The primers are etching primers which bond very well to the sheet metal. The color coats are water-borne and don't stick all that well to other layers. When you get a chip in your paint it is almost never to bare metal, but rather to primer which, thankfully, is still acting as a barrier to rust. One reason why silver and gray are such popular colors is because when the pint gets chipped, exposing primer, the neutral gray primer blends in with the color coat pretty well. The final layer clear coats are gooey and stick to stuff really well. The polyurethane clear is a protective shrink-wrap that ties the whole paint "package" together.

Manufacturers count every penny on each car built and you know they use the absolute least amount of expensive paint that they can get away with. The painting is done by robots and the patterns are optimized to use as little as possible consistent with protecting the car and making it look great. The color coat is the thinnest layer and in places like the underbody and behind interior door panels you can sometimes see areas that are barely colored at all or even skipped. The clear coat is the thickest and most resilient to harm including debris, water, grit, etc. Given changes in environmental law, the current paint appearance would not be possible without the polyurethane clears we have. They are closer to powder-coating than they are to enamels. They is very little overspray and very little solvent released to the atmosphere. I consider clear polyurethane as important as the modern ECU in saving us from really crappy cars.

I will wax my new car eventually with a hard pure carnauba but I won't cry myself to sleep if I miss a year. And neither should any owner of a car built in the last 10 years.

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Old 02-23-2012, 04:07 PM   #203
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I'm on the edge about these... but then again, I was when the '06 came out... and the '08. Each have grown on me.
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:13 PM   #204
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I noticed the Legacy steering wheels in these. I liked them a lot. I hope they put a lot of the Legacy interior appointments on these cars, they are nice.
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:36 PM   #205
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Sorry, I have to ask, why would you clay a new car?

Using the clay bar is a remedial measure for fixing neglected paint with imbedded contaminants. It does zero, nothing, nada to new fresh paint. It doesn't make it shinier, glossier or more protected; it is meant to break off/out particles and hold them in the clay.
I'm aware it doesn't make it shinier, glossier or more protected. I clay every time I do my every-six-months detail (wash, clay, polish, seal and carnauba wax). The lame-ass detail guys at the dealership did a sloppy "wax" job when I took delivery. I figured it's a brand new car and used the clay to remove whatever quick wax that was still on the paint after I washed it. I'm careful not to induce any marring from the clay itself. I sure wasn't going to put my sealant of choice on top of their mystery wax.
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:04 PM   #206
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Anyone see the newest Portlandia episode that featured the new Impreza?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-baV-xULLk


This is sooo Portland!
Subaru is doing an official product tie up with the new Impreza and Portlandia, which is awesome as it's my favorite show at the moment having experienced the dream of the 90's during the 90's while living in downtown Portland.

http://www.amcnetworks.com/release_r...sp?nodeid=6466
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:59 PM   #207
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Anyone see the newest Portlandia episode that featured the new Impreza?

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-baV-xULLk

This is sooo Portland!
I actually posted about the 2012 in Portlandia in the big 2012 Impreza thread the day after it premiered. The "you go, no, you go, no, you go" skit. Nobody responded so I figured I was the only Portlandia fan. I love that show. I keep seeing that camilla red pearl limited hatch in what seems like every episode now.
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Old 02-23-2012, 06:05 PM   #208
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This is sooo Portland!
So NW, unfortunately. Seattle is the only place I've ever had someone stop their car in the middle of the street when I'm trying to jaywalk. Multiple times.

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Old 02-23-2012, 08:40 PM   #211
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I'm aware it doesn't make it shinier, glossier or more protected. I clay every time I do my every-six-months detail (wash, clay, polish, seal and carnauba wax). The lame-ass detail guys at the dealership did a sloppy "wax" job when I took delivery. I figured it's a brand new car and used the clay to remove whatever quick wax that was still on the paint after I washed it. I'm careful not to induce any marring from the clay itself. I sure wasn't going to put my sealant of choice on top of their mystery wax.
Good call.

Clay doesn't strip old wax, though. If that was your intention, a final step polish would be your best bet. I would go with something like Meguiars Ultra Finishing Polish which is an ultra-fine abrasive compound. Or my standby from the old days, [Meguiars] Mirror Glaze #7, Professional Show Car Glaze. With #7, the paint is actually "squeaky" after your done, with virtually no protection. But it is clean, clean, clean and ready for a protective wax.

Of course my worst fears is that the dealership uses some new-fangled miracle "wax" containing silicone. Silicone is very hard to remove completely, short of wiping down with acetone, multiple times, with multiple fresh rags each time. And acetone isn't what you would exactly call "paint-friendly!"
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So I've been sort of a life-long Meguiars user. Barry Meguiar lives pretty close by and I bump into him every so often around town. I got to talk with him for quite a while during an F1 live viewing which a local club used to have. We'd all arrive at 3:30 in the morning at an Italian restaurant on Balboa Island and the owner would whip out treats for everyone for a flat $10 fee. Barry told me all the details of his '57 Chevy which looks stock but is anything but!
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Old 02-24-2012, 12:30 PM   #212
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Good call.

Clay doesn't strip old wax, though. If that was your intention, a final step polish would be your best bet. I would go with something like Meguiars Ultra Finishing Polish which is an ultra-fine abrasive compound. Or my standby from the old days, [Meguiars] Mirror Glaze #7, Professional Show Car Glaze. With #7, the paint is actually "squeaky" after your done, with virtually no protection. But it is clean, clean, clean and ready for a protective wax.

Of course my worst fears is that the dealership uses some new-fangled miracle "wax" containing silicone. Silicone is very hard to remove completely, short of wiping down with acetone, multiple times, with multiple fresh rags each time. And acetone isn't what you would exactly call "paint-friendly!"
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I remember we had some of the far left tombstone-shaped bottles in my dad's garage. I think it was left over from his hot rod days on Muroc Lake (now Edwards Airforce Base) and the SCTA (Wally Parks' first org. and forerunner of the NHRA.)

So I've been sort of a life-long Meguiars user. Barry Meguiar lives pretty close by and I bump into him every so often around town. I got to talk with him for quite a while during an F1 live viewing which a local club used to have. We'd all arrive at 3:30 in the morning at an Italian restaurant on Balboa Island and the owner would whip out treats for everyone for a flat $10 fee. Barry told me all the details of his '57 Chevy which looks stock but is anything but!

Is that anything like megs ultimate polish?

Hot rods are cool. Rat Fink is cooler.
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:20 PM   #213
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Picked mine up on Wednesday. Already I have a few gripes, but I should have expected that coming from a WRX Premium, to a Base Impreza.

Loves - Gas milage, quiet, rides really well for a "cheap" car.
Gripes - No aux in... really Subaru? An aux in is an option?? Catches gusts really easily on highway. And it could really use the 6 speed from the Legacy. Highway cruising at 80 gets me 3500rpms.

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No options. Literally told the dealer to give me the cheapest Subaru they had...


I'll be taking some photos of this guy soon. It's leased (as was the WRX) but am thinking of buying it out and making it the girl's car at some point during the lease.

Maybe a mellow drop, wheels and tint? May try to rig up the Hella's as well.
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:33 PM   #214
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Is that anything like megs ultimate polish?
I think Meguiars Ultra Finishing Polish is close to the old #7 sealer/resealer (which you can still get.) It states clearly that it is not protective wax, but the penultimate step before your protection. The #7 leaves the paint so clean and free of anything that it squeaks when you rub it. Visually, it's more dramatic on darker colors. I think it's a little odd how Meguiars uses made-up science to describe some products as "feeding" your paint and adding "nutrients"! Still love it though.


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Hot rods were my dad's thing as a high-schooler. I am more of the Big Daddy Roth era. As a high schooler I was all about the Ford GT and mini Cooper winning Monte Carlo Rally. My first car was a 1967 Austin Cooper S. LOVED that car!

Technically, my dad only owned one rod -- a 27 T which he stuffed a flathead V8 into.

In Don Montgomery's book Hot Rods in the Forties there is a picture of my dad in his rod lining up against a more famous person. When the book first came out he showed me the book and said, "Look. This is exactly what I was into in high school!" So I am idly thumbing through it and I stop and say, "Hey look! Here's a picture of you!" He was like, "Are you sure that's me?..." and my mom -- looking over our shoulders -- just smiles and says, "Oh yeah."
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This is an awesome picture, and I really like the look you gave your WRX.
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Old 02-24-2012, 03:44 PM   #216
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Picked mine up on Wednesday. Already I have a few gripes, but I should have expected that coming from a WRX Premium, to a Base Impreza.

Loves - Gas milage, quiet, rides really well for a "cheap" car.
Gripes - No aux in... really Subaru? An aux in is an option?? .
aux is only an option on the base, premium and limited come standard with it, just curious, since you are coming from a wrx, why didn't you opt for the premium over the base model?
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Yea, but come on. It's 2012. My sister's $13k Kia came with an aux in...

The decision to go base instead of premium was based on timing and availability. I actually wanted a hatch, but there were only 5 in New England with the 5mt. So they offered up the Sedan, which I took since I really needed to get out from under the WRX.

Jobs change and the payments on the WRX were just too much with my $1000 a month student loan payments, especially with the desire to buy a house in the next few years creeping in.
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:12 PM   #218
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Yea, but come on. It's 2012. My sister's $13k Kia came with an aux in...

The decision to go base instead of premium was based on timing and availability. I actually wanted a hatch, but there were only 5 in New England with the 5mt. So they offered up the Sedan, which I took since I really needed to get out from under the WRX.

Jobs change and the payments on the WRX were just too much with my $1000 a month student loan payments, especially with the desire to buy a house in the next few years creeping in.
I hear what you're saying, but I wouldn't be upset that there isn't USB on the base model. It's not like Subaru doesn't have it available on any trim level. You opted to not wait for the non-base model, therefore you don't get the extra features. Many of us that pre-ordered our cars had to wait 3+ months to get what we wanted, you had the option as well. Not trying to give you a hard time, but I'm just sayin'...
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:29 PM   #219
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^^ Looks awesome!

So who's gonna be the first to install some aftermarket wheels on their Impreza Sport???
Just ordered some 18 x 8.5 BBS CH's...wrapped in 235/40 Continental DWS's.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:17 PM   #220
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Yea, but come on. It's 2012. My sister's $13k Kia came with an aux in...
Yea, but the trade off is that Kia is a cheapo korean company, with the lowest grade materials possible. Not to mention Kias reliablitiy is pretty low compared to subaru.
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I hear what you're saying, but I wouldn't be upset that there isn't USB on the base model. It's not like Subaru doesn't have it available on any trim level. You opted to not wait for the non-base model, therefore you don't get the extra features. Many of us that pre-ordered our cars had to wait 3+ months to get what we wanted, you had the option as well. Not trying to give you a hard time, but I'm just sayin'...

The USB isn't even an issue. I don't didn't expect that.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time either. But the exclusion of a part that cost's Subaru $3 to manufacture? It's standard on a Hyundai Elantra and a Kia Forte...

Whatever. Lesson learned I guess.

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Yea, but the trade off is that Kia is a cheapo korean company, with the lowest grade materials possible. Not to mention Kias reliablitiy is pretty low compared to subaru.
I used to think that too. To be honest, it's not a bad driving car. And the 100,000 mile warranty blows Subaru's base warranty out of the water.
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The USB isn't even an issue. I don't didn't expect that.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time either. But the exclusion of a part that cost's Subaru $3 to manufacture? It's standard on a Hyundai Elantra and a Kia Forte...

Whatever. Lesson learned I guess.

I used to think that too. To be honest, it's not a bad driving car. And the 100,000 mile warranty blows Subaru's base warranty out of the water.
It's not the cost of the jack, it's the wiring. Base is pretty stripped. It doesn't even have cruise control after all.

& a Subaru will far outlast a Kia. I'd take that over Kia's warranty. I pre-ordered & got an extended warranty as a gift from Subaru so I lucked out.
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The USB isn't even an issue. I don't didn't expect that.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time either. But the exclusion of a part that cost's Subaru $3 to manufacture? It's standard on a Hyundai Elantra and a Kia Forte...

Whatever. Lesson learned I guess.
I don't even think it's really the cost to put the USB connection in, it's the fact they want to up-sell the next model up and make more $$, typical business model.

ANYWAYS, we all probably have some gripes about the car. The bottom line is enjoy it! Pretty sharp looking car with good utility that we can all be proud of.
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I used to think that too. To be honest, it's not a bad driving car. And the 100,000 mile warranty blows Subaru's base warranty out of the water.
Well, one of my friends friend had a Kia, daily driven to school and back home. It was a brand new 2010 kia soul, and he was one of those kids who was definitely scared to drive. short story is, his kia had a lot of mech. issues, and i believe it had less than 1k on it..

So even if kia does have a warranty that blows subaru out of the water, id take the company that can actually stand by its products even with a shorter warranty.
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Well, one of my friends friend had a Kia, daily driven to school and back home. It was a brand new 2010 kia soul, and he was one of those kids who was definitely scared to drive. short story is, his kia had a lot of mech. issues, and i believe it had less than 1k on it..

So even if kia does have a warranty that blows subaru out of the water, id take the company that can actually stand by its products even with a shorter warranty.
Kia offers 100,000 miles warranties because consumers won't believe the cars are quality unless the company stands behind them. Subaru doesn't have this perception problem, so they don't need to offer a longer warranty...we'll still buy their cars.
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