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Old 08-09-2013, 07:22 PM   #26
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OP, I looked at your site after you posted it on P365 the other day. Good site and good work, but it makes it seem easier than it is in many ways! I've been working on my start up for about 8 months now. I will be picking up a Gema by the end of the year.

The learning curve is steep and if you cannot be consistent, methodical, and detailed, your results will look... meh. Most will read that and go "I'm all of those things!" but in reality, they are far from it. Most DIY powder coat work I've seen is really quite poor. I always encourage DIY (built, not bought is my motto), but for the money, most should probably just stick to having someone experienced do it. Poor powder coating is almost worse than no coating because it costs you money to have it removed before it can be done properly! The amount of guys who start in their garage these days is staggering. Hell, I'm one of them. But the amount of crap work I've seen at cheap rates is concerning. I saw some stuff the other day that wasn't cleaned or blasted and the powder was over cured. It was literally flaking off! That's $100+ down the drain.

The biggest killer I see with people are the following:
1) Lack of proper prep.
2) Lack of understanding of the process.
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Thanks, whats your name on Powder365? and congratulations on the Gema, I hope to own a pro gun one day, but considering I started powder coating to save money, buying a several thousand dollar gun would kind of negate that, lol.

I honestly dont know what type of results most of the garage coaters produce, Im sure its something you see more of in a shop. I am definitely not advising shoddy work on my site, my main focus is teaching people how to do it right. Basically, when I started, I had a bunch of unanswered questions and it took awhile to learn the process. Now that I am familiar with the process, I basically built the site answering questions I had. I would have loved having my site as a resourse when I first started so I am hoping other beginners do as well. The absolute last thing I want to promote is garage guys buying an eastwood gun and advertising their "powder coating business" the next day. My aim is hobby coaters that do it for themselves, I believe they are the ones with the willingness to do it right as they have to live with their results. Not trying to make it sound easy, so far the site really just covers equipment. Its a work in progress but thanks for checking it out.
And yes, guilty as charged, I have posted it on several forums including this one. I put a lot of work in to it so I am hoping to get some feedback, lol. All I do on the internet is read forums all day so its the only way I know hot to get the word out. It is amazing reading through some forums though, the misinformation about powder coating out there.
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Old 08-09-2013, 07:31 PM   #27
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So far only one thing I have done hasn't cured correctly. I am learning a little more each time how to get closer to a perfect result.
Looks like you are on the right track. I really like the intake manifold and the sti badge.

The discrepency with the Eastwood instructions is that they say to start your oven timer as soon as you put the part in the oven, which is incorrect. The timer should only start when the part is at the required temperature. Do you have an infrared thermometer?
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Old 08-09-2013, 07:55 PM   #28
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Thanks, whats your name on Powder365? and congratulations on the Gema, I hope to own a pro gun one day, but considering I started powder coating to save money, buying a several thousand dollar gun would kind of negate that, lol.

I honestly dont know what type of results most of the garage coaters produce, Im sure its something you see more of in a shop. I am definitely not advising shoddy work on my site, my main focus is teaching people how to do it right. Basically, when I started, I had a bunch of unanswered questions and it took awhile to learn the process. Now that I am familiar with the process, I basically built the site answering questions I had. I would have loved having my site as a resourse when I first started so I am hoping other beginners do as well. The absolute last thing I want to promote is garage guys buying an eastwood gun and advertising their "powder coating business" the next day. My aim is hobby coaters that do it for themselves, I believe they are the ones with the willingness to do it right as they have to live with their results. Not trying to make it sound easy, so far the site really just covers equipment. Its a work in progress but thanks for checking it out.
And yes, guilty as charged, I have posted it on several forums including this one. I put a lot of work in to it so I am hoping to get some feedback, lol. All I do on the internet is read forums all day so its the only way I know hot to get the word out. It is amazing reading through some forums though, the misinformation about powder coating out there.
I never post on there. Only lurk. Along with other sites. But maybe I should start.

Thumbs up on everything you said in your post. Two thumbs up on your hard work on that site you made. I love the site name/logo hidden in places. It's like a where's Waldo at times. But yeah, you're knowledge and experience shows though you work.
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Old 08-09-2013, 07:56 PM   #29
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Looks like you are on the right track. I really like the intake manifold and the sti badge.

The discrepency with the Eastwood instructions is that they say to start your oven timer as soon as you put the part in the oven, which is incorrect. The timer should only start when the part is at the required temperature. Do you have an infrared thermometer?
I really appreciate it! The sti badge was a pain having to brush the red powder over the letters and still getting an even coat. Actually I do have an infrared thermometer but have never used it for powder coating but that sounds perfect. I usually just checked in until the powder completely flowed but now I know how to get more consistent results.
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Old 08-09-2013, 09:18 PM   #30
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I really appreciate it! The sti badge was a pain having to brush the red powder over the letters and still getting an even coat. Actually I do have an infrared thermometer but have never used it for powder coating but that sounds perfect. I usually just checked in until the powder completely flowed but now I know how to get more consistent results.
Yeah those recessed letters are much harder to do than raised letters. Came out pretty good though! Here's an older article I wrote about the inrafred thermometers pertaining to powder coating:

http://www.powdercoatguide.com/2012/...ermometer.html
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Old 08-09-2013, 09:19 PM   #31
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I never post on there. Only lurk. Along with other sites. But maybe I should start.

Thumbs up on everything you said in your post. Two thumbs up on your hard work on that site you made. I love the site name/logo hidden in places. It's like a where's Waldo at times. But yeah, you're knowledge and experience shows though you work.
Thanks man, It is really good to hear. Lol, and I'm glad you like the little logos hidden everywhere. I'll keep it up.
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Old 08-09-2013, 10:48 PM   #32
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Just did a set of calipers from a 5series bmw for a friend, I also do it as a hobby on weekends.
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Old 08-09-2013, 10:56 PM   #33
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Perrin shift knob I coated wrinkle black for a friend.
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Old 08-11-2013, 01:16 AM   #34
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Same basic story here. I started not having a compressor at all so I bought the Craftsman airless gun. My first couple parts, I baked in my propane grill, came out great for not having any experience. It led to a stove, 60gal compressor and blast cabinet and now Im planning an oven build. It is a little bit more work than spray paint, but the end result is completely worth it. Im glad to see some other diy coaters out there, I started working on a powder coat guide to help new people out now that I have been at it for a couple of years.

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Old 08-11-2013, 02:09 AM   #35
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Just did a set of calipers from a 5series bmw for a friend, I also do it as a hobby on weekends.
Beautiful! and unique color, I like it. Weird to see all 4 calipers with only 1 piston each.

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[quote=wrxXeN;40381368]first project after scrap piece testing:

Also looks great for your first time. Did you blast before coating these? I had some stiff that chipped like that on corners before I got setup for blasting. The texture that the sandblaster leaves improves durability ten fold.
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I am in the middle of stripping paint of some wheels before I sand blast them and I was having a little bit of trouble getting all of it off. Does anyone have any tips for this?
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Beautiful! and unique color, I like it. Weird to see all 4 calipers with only 1 piston each.
The color wasn't my cup of tea, but it matched his interior.I think the calipers were from an early 90s 5series (at least that's what I was told).
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I am in the middle of stripping paint of some wheels before I sand blast them and I was having a little bit of trouble getting all of it off. Does anyone have any tips for this?
Sand blasting itself is a pretty good way to remove paint if you dont have a good paint stripper. Some paint blasts off like nothing. Others take awhile.
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Sand blasting itself is a pretty good way to remove paint if you dont have a good paint stripper. Some paint blasts off like nothing. Others take awhile.
I'm using 80 grit blast media at 120 psi and it sometimes doesn't get me anywhere on paint. Would you suggest a less fine media?
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I'm using 80 grit blast media at 120 psi and it sometimes doesn't get me anywhere on paint. Would you suggest a less fine media?
I use black diamond coal slag media myself and it removes paint pretty fast, aluminum oxide media would be even better, just more expensive. If you are using either one of those at 120psi and not getting anywhere, then a chemical stripper would probably be best. I have not had much luck with off the shelves paint strippers anymore. They used to sell a paint stripper by 3m locally which has now been replaced in all stores by Rustoleums aircraft paint stripper which didn't work for me at all. If your only trying to strip this one set of wheels, I would go to your local autobody supply place and get the best paint stripper they recommend. Then soak some rags in it and lay the rags over the wheels. Re-soak the rags as necessary.

If you strip a lot of wheels, I would use benco b17. It is a powder coat stripper that works amazing on paint too. It is not cheap and it is some seriously nasty stuff but it is the fastest way to strip anything.
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+1 on the coal slag. Calipers look great!
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I have coated everyting. I do it as my night job to pay for hookers and coke.





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I have coated everyting. I do it as my night job to pay for hookers and coke.
With a habit like that you must do a lot of powdercoating! Lol, great work bye the way.
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I've used semi or low gloss black engine paint with fantastic results. Several parts on my motorcycle I've hit with that stuff, and people swear it's powdercoat. It's held up great for four years now.
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+1 on the coal slag. Calipers look great!
Thanks, and yeah, nothing beats coal's effectiveness, price-wise.

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Awesome work. Have you put those exhaust parts into service yet? If so, how has the powder held up? I know coating the actual exhaust system is no problem, but I have heard some issues with coating exhaust pieces that close to the engine.

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I've used semi or low gloss black engine paint with fantastic results. Several parts on my motorcycle I've hit with that stuff, and people swear it's powdercoat. It's held up great for four years now.
Which engine paint? I am afraid I will still need to use a spray paint for certain parts that are just not feasible to powder coat and I can't find one that holds up to even my fingernail...
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the exhaust parts are ceramic coating. I use the same oven. I probably shouldn't have put them in theis PC thread. I coated inside and outside of my motor with various coatings. Valves, pistons, heads, block. Everything I could I did.
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the exhaust parts are ceramic coating. I use the same oven. I probably shouldn't have put them in theis PC thread. I coated inside and outside of my motor with various coatings. Valves, pistons, heads, block. Everything I could I did.
Ok I thought so at first, but didnt see you mention it. No problem with them being in the thread. Can I ask what all the various coatings are that you used. I have a pile of exhaust parts that I have been contemplating ceramic coating. Just want to make sure it is worth the price considering how expensive the ceramic material is. I have been looking into Cerakote. Any experiences?
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