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04-19-2013, 01:35 PM | #16901 | |
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I can't tell you how many times I've come across people running HID's in something they shouldn't. Excessive glare and light bleed aren't fun when the car is coming towards me. EDIT: A great, informative post that explains it all... http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...&postcount=147
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04-19-2013, 01:45 PM | #16902 |
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HIDs in anything other than HID projectors is wrong. It's not "haters gonna hate". The optics are wrong and it is dangerous.
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04-19-2013, 01:49 PM | #16903 | |
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and thats what happens when you create and icon Robb. |
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04-19-2013, 02:06 PM | #16904 |
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04-19-2013, 02:08 PM | #16905 |
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04-19-2013, 02:09 PM | #16906 |
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Is it either-or? ... or just both. Maybe it can be right, and dangerous?
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04-19-2013, 02:10 PM | #16907 |
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04-19-2013, 02:10 PM | #16908 |
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04-19-2013, 02:11 PM | #16909 |
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04-19-2013, 02:12 PM | #16910 |
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04-19-2013, 02:12 PM | #16911 |
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04-19-2013, 02:15 PM | #16912 |
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04-19-2013, 02:19 PM | #16913 |
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Wrong - halogen projectors were never designed for HID capsules. If you pull up to a garage door or wall, you will notice that there is a large bright spot above the cutoff. Yes...there is a cutoff unlike with halogen reflectors but that bright spot above that cutoff is glare that drivers coming the other way see. That means it is wrong in the fact that it is not the correct thing to do.
Dangerous - glare is extremely sensitive to the eyes. This is also why blue and purple PNP kits off of eBay are terrible. The human eye is sensitive to glare and blue/purple. It gives the illusion of being bright when in reality it is the eyes sensitivity to that source of light the viewer is feeling. So it is not safe to put that type of light in the sight of oncoming drivers in traffic. That is dangerous. Clearer now? What would I know though...I have only retrofitted every car I have owned the past 10 years including the cars with halogen projectors. |
04-19-2013, 02:23 PM | #16914 | |
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04-19-2013, 02:26 PM | #16915 |
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Guise, guise, guise. I've seen all those threads. I've seen all the diagrams. I've put Daniel Stern's sack in my mouth and tasted of it's savor. I still did the PNP HID's, because after seeing them in person on numerous GR WRX's, I thought it was acceptable.
Also: I don't see an issue with a 5000-6000k color temperature. Sunlight is 5500k. |
04-19-2013, 02:29 PM | #16916 | |
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daylight has a color spectrum. it ranges http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature why do you need headlights brighter than the sun? lol |
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04-19-2013, 02:29 PM | #16917 |
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04-19-2013, 02:29 PM | #16918 |
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4100k - 4300k is stock for all cars factory equipped with HID's. That typically color shifts to 5000k or so over time. The PNP kits I am talking about are 6k and up as they do not cast white light because they are trying to mimic the color at the cutoff caused by the light bending over the shield in the projector. A true HID setup casts pure white on the ground and what people see is the Flickr of the blue that you see in the last picture above.
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04-19-2013, 02:30 PM | #16919 |
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04-19-2013, 02:31 PM | #16920 | |
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They're not brighter than the sun. They're a twinge bluer than the sun! |
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04-19-2013, 02:31 PM | #16921 |
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True, but the picture does prove what we are trying to say in more ways than one. Doesn't matter what one may think or believe. It's very hard to argue proven facts despite what one may think.
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04-19-2013, 02:33 PM | #16922 |
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Guys...are you sure? I dont think I quite understand why HID's in halogen reflector bowls are bad.
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04-19-2013, 02:34 PM | #16923 |
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Anything greater than 5k actually produces less useable light at night. This has been proven scientifically.
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04-19-2013, 02:34 PM | #16924 |
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04-19-2013, 02:37 PM | #16925 |
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I'm not going to argue about this anymore. I figured this would happen.
People will do what they want. I put PNP HID's in my projectors, and I couldn't be happier. They blow away my previous H9's and H11's. |
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