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04-19-2012, 12:56 PM | #1801 |
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Similar form factor, but I think the TurboSmart is actually smaller. The piston design is completely different though. The Forge has a much larger area on the top of the piston than the bottom. The TurboSmart has a piston that is essentially straight up and down (similar to most VTA and 50/50 BOV's). I think the TurboSmart might be a bit quieter.
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04-19-2012, 01:13 PM | #1802 | |
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04-19-2012, 02:32 PM | #1803 | |
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I think if you want the ultimate in response (closed at idle, and vents a lot of air when it opens) then a BOV is the way to go. Especially ones with large vent ports like the Tial Q or TurboSmart Race Port. But even most 50/50 valves will flow a lot more than the recirculating valves. The downsides are that the car usually has some compressor surge (due to the valve being completely closed at idle) and also backfires and possible stalling. With proper valve tuning you can minimize this, but it is always there to an extent. If I were blow through MAF or speed density I would probably use a BOV. It's kind of a double edged sword. If you want response, you have to deal with some of the downsides (flutter and rich shifts). For most people, I still think the Forge is probably the best choice. But I think the TurboSmart Kompact does just as well, and has a similar price. I could see it getting more and more popular. |
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04-19-2012, 06:35 PM | #1804 |
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^^ Nice car! Subscribed due to extreme details and reviews. Love it!
Btw, have you considered the Synapse DV? I'm running it on my 08 STi and I love it. Great sound, not too loud, fully recirculated, and has an extremely fast response time. Synapse Engineering makes great products IMO. I'm also considering their EWG. |
04-19-2012, 06:46 PM | #1805 | |
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04-19-2012, 06:52 PM | #1806 |
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The marketing thing seemed to have occurred in recent videos. They have a pretty cool older video of testing the DV: Also there's other older videos where their lead engineer disassembles the valves and explains their mechanism. I dug around for a while and I saw dyno graphs on EVO forums (the evo guys are all over them) where someone dynoed before and after install. And it turns out that he made more top end power after install due to a leaky stock BPV. Now I know that our BPVs aren't very leaky by nature and its use on a Stage 2 setup is limited. I still like their design. I mounted mine in Pull Mode. You probably would have more use their BOV, though.
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04-19-2012, 09:55 PM | #1807 |
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Yeah, those videos are still just marketing, IMO. They don't really show anything. 15hz with basically 0 lift doesn't impress me much. All you can hear is the control solenoid clicking. Coming from an engineering background and also a lot of experience with paintball, this seems pretty mundane. Paintball guns operate at pressures 5x-25x higher than most turbo'd cars, have valves that move ~1" per cycle, cycle 15-25 times per second, and last just as long as this "test".
The options for connecting that valve seem like they'd be fun to play with. I wouldn't mind toying around with one. I don't think I'd spend $250+ on it though. But maybe someday... |
04-20-2012, 04:37 PM | #1808 | |
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04-20-2012, 04:51 PM | #1809 | |
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I was really worried about the stock brakes lines. I did buy a set of 5 sided flare nut wrenches for $10 and they made it really easy. It took a good amount of force but the nuts broke loose without rounding off or anything. No issues. Went very smoothly. Here's the wrenches I got: http://www.harborfreight.com/5-piece...:referralID=NA |
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04-20-2012, 05:58 PM | #1810 |
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Can't beat that. I don't know if I've ever bought a tool for 10 bucks! Actually I had to buy a 10mm 1/4 inch socket for 10 bucks. Damn Mac Tools.
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04-20-2012, 09:47 PM | #1811 |
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OK. Sounds like a waste of money.
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04-21-2012, 12:00 AM | #1812 |
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If I may ask, where did you source the new block? Did you assemble it from all the diff listed parts or did you buy it pre-assembled?
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04-21-2012, 07:08 PM | #1813 |
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04-21-2012, 09:03 PM | #1814 |
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04-21-2012, 09:25 PM | #1815 | ||
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04-21-2012, 10:18 PM | #1816 |
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nice car
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04-21-2012, 10:19 PM | #1817 |
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Hey guys I'm new to this and just had a question. I was just wondering around what kind of whp I would be looking at on my wrx?2004 2.1 liter Manley stroker kit, stage 3 clutch, grim speed boost controller, hta green turbo, ap uel headers with up pipe,turbo xs fmic, dw 850 cc injectors,turbo xs turbo back, Perrin underdrive pulley set,and Perrin intake. Oh and on 93 oct.???no e85 or race gas.
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04-21-2012, 10:24 PM | #1818 |
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Ummmm.... I'm going to go ahead and say you posted in the wrong section.
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04-21-2012, 10:28 PM | #1819 | ||
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Thanks!
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04-21-2012, 10:28 PM | #1820 |
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What section do I post in cause I do not know. But am very curious to know what kind of power my wrx will put out. If anyone knows
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04-21-2012, 10:29 PM | #1821 |
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Sorry to offend anyone.
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04-21-2012, 10:30 PM | #1822 | |
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04-21-2012, 10:31 PM | #1823 |
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Thanks
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04-21-2012, 11:19 PM | #1824 |
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Haha. that was awesome.
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04-21-2012, 11:28 PM | #1825 |
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you wife (assuming) looks excited about that, lol.
btw. i'll have a package shipping for you by next friday or the following monday. my PC said they'll be done then. also...its a satin, not matte and not glossy. i liked it. i may actually run the same one |
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