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07-30-2013, 07:02 PM | #4651 |
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Thanks for the suggestion. I am not miserable, just pointing out that this car is not fun to drive IMO and does not provide awesome MPG's either. It is basic transportation, like a Corolla, so that won't resolve my issue. Dont worry I will be ok. Thanks again though.
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07-30-2013, 07:10 PM | #4652 | |
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--> find a flat stretch of highway, set the cruise to 65mph, and let us know what you see on the instantaneous Mileage reported by the computer. while it will fluctuate somewhat, it should read something between 35-45 MPG. if your car doesn't achieve something in that range, i'd bring it to the dealer and demonstrate it to them. maybe the ECU needs to be flashed/reprogrammed. even at 2k on my odometer, i got 40mpg on a trip averaging 60-65mph. even driving 80mph, you should be seeing ~30 MPG. |
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07-30-2013, 08:38 PM | #4653 |
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3k-4k sounds high. especially for cvt, unless you have a lead foot. My guess is: you have a lead foot.
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07-30-2013, 09:08 PM | #4654 | ||
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Welcome to the club... Your mpg's should increase by a couple of mpg over the next 10,000+ miles, if it's a typical engine. |
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07-30-2013, 09:36 PM | #4655 | |
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07-30-2013, 09:39 PM | #4656 |
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I can't get that low with my 2013 cvt sport even driving it as hard in m mode as I can. Talking about 3-4000 RPM'S, I'm talking 5500-6000 RPM'S and can't get that low. Maybe fuel grades would make that much of a difference, I only use 91 oct non ethanol fuel. Maybe 87 oct 10% ethanol would get that much worse. Idk. These cars do not have ethanol tunes in them so that can't be the difference. Idk
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07-30-2013, 10:05 PM | #4657 |
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You're right - 22 mpg is lower than I ever got on a round trip. It's a heck of a lot closer than what you get though!
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07-31-2013, 05:39 AM | #4658 |
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Didn't you said before that driving at 60-70 you did get good numbers ( hell you got 50 mpgs once!) but that your time was too valuable to drive slow.
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07-31-2013, 06:07 AM | #4659 |
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Yes I can going slow under ideal conditions. On a flat and level road, no wind, clean car, good summer gas, no AC, at over 5,000 ft elevation I can get 50 mpg easily at 40 mph.
However, just a little bit of a grade or headwind the CVT starts gearing down and mpg goes to heck. P.S. under ideal conditions I save $3.50 per hour by slowing down from 75 to 40. Is your time not worth that? Last edited by stevehnm; 07-31-2013 at 06:32 AM. |
07-31-2013, 12:47 PM | #4660 | |
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Since you seem to love averages, why not try somewhere in the middle, cause it seems like those CVT drivers who report meeting and exceeding the EPA HWY mpg numbers are driving between 60-70mph...(most report ~65-70mph) It might surprise you that you can get the same mpg's that they do, once you drive it in a similar way. I know your time is invaluable, try it on your day off. Last edited by Zeeper; 07-31-2013 at 06:28 PM. Reason: corrected, as steve just told us he drives it 80mph, not 75 |
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07-31-2013, 01:39 PM | #4661 |
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Well... agree to disagree. 40mpg is not impossible to attain as you personally have proven, but 22 highway mpg is close to impossible (very difficult at best)to achieve according to G2Spfld.
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07-31-2013, 02:36 PM | #4662 |
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I get high 30s at 65 mph, low 30s at 75 and 25-28 in town. I've never gotten low 20s. My car is magical or the low scoring cars are broken or driving habits are suboptimal. Pretty sure mine isn't magical... Both remaining options can be fixed.
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07-31-2013, 03:03 PM | #4663 |
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If I'm only going to work, and short trips around town, it'll be 22-23 mpg. I have a very short commute, and the engine only JUST heats up by time I get to work and home.
But, I also know I can hit 50 average mpg under ideal conditions on highway, no wind, 60 mph, no crazy hills, E0 summer gas. My overall Fuelly over 15k miles now is sitting just above 29 mpg. I'm perfectly happy with it, but yes, it can get terrible mpg. Before the engine heats up, it sucks down the gas like no other. |
07-31-2013, 04:36 PM | #4664 | |
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07-31-2013, 05:33 PM | #4665 |
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True story- this tank mostly city with short 5-10 mile hwy trips and I've tried to get as bad as I can to test. I've had air on the whole time, and half way into it I'm at 27.8 comp. last few tanks the most comp was off was by 8 tenths. I'm still running good non ethanol 91 oct. I'm not going to change that.
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07-31-2013, 05:42 PM | #4666 | |
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07-31-2013, 05:47 PM | #4667 | |
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Some days on my commute driving 80 is slower than most of the traffic. Sometimes I won't even try to keep up with a group of cars. We're still a lot slower than the Autobahn though... Out west things are kinda spread out - states typically have dozens of acres per person. |
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07-31-2013, 06:25 PM | #4668 | |
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http://www.mpgforspeed.com/ A car rated 36mpg Hwy is expected to yield approx. 25.9 mpg's when it is driven at 80mph. how close is their generic calculation to what you achieve with your impreza? |
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07-31-2013, 06:52 PM | #4669 | |
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07-31-2013, 10:34 PM | #4670 | |
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08-01-2013, 12:36 AM | #4671 | |
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For one thing, the increase in fuel usage is not exponential as they say - it is subject to the power rule, squared actually. While we're at it we might as well shoot some more holes in it. 2. They say: "You'd be surprised to learn that a slight decrease in your highway driving speed can significantly reduce your gas consumption, while only adding a few minutes to your travel time." Plug in even their formulas to time saved vs extra gas used and see what you save by slowing down - Squat, unless you make less than minimum wage. Take one hour of travel time at your mpg for spending in fuel, then subtract from it the amount of fuel used at the slower speed times the additional time (60 mph takes 25% longer to get somewhere than 75 mph. Then divide those dollars by the time saved and you get the money you have saved per hour. 3. "According to studies backed by the department of energy, the average car will be at its advertised MPG at 55 mph" conflicts with Consumer Reports: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2477627 4. They say: "If the national speed limit were reset to 55, it would save 1 billion barrels of oil per year." Does that include the additional savings from all the people who don't have to go to work any more because of the effect on the economy, like last time? 5. I'm not sure where they got the graph on that site, but it conflicts with this one from http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/image...pg_2012_sm.jpg 6. But then, even on that site they quoted, they say this: "You can assume that each 5 mph you drive over 50 mph is like paying an additional $0.25 per gallon for gas." I guess they think that's the same whether one gets 10 mpg in a 1 ton pickup or 50 mpg in, say, a Prius. I think not. That's most of an inning in strike outs. Zeeper, that means you are not even ignorant. You're just ignernt. |
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08-01-2013, 12:43 AM | #4672 | |
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Definitely ignernt.
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08-01-2013, 06:26 AM | #4673 | ||||
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But since we both know (wink, wink) that our government is a Kenyan socialist communist marxist conspiracy and nothing the government does, vis a vis speed limits to reduce gas use, or emissions standards that clean the air while reducing mpg's, or stockpiling ammunition, etc... Oh you already know all of this, right? LOL As for the effect of poor driving choices on fuel economy, including speeding to save time...this is also off the fuel economy.gov site, but comes from motorweek (probably also kenyan marxist islamic conspiricists...) http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/video...small_wide.wmv P.S. By the way, nice dodge, the question I asked was: "How close is their generic calculation to what you achieve with your impreza?" (when you drive it 80mph on the highway) That lame-ass site guestimates 25.9mpg, how close are they to what you get? Are you afraid to answer? Last edited by Zeeper; 08-01-2013 at 02:50 PM. |
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08-01-2013, 06:27 AM | #4674 |
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Just had my first 400 mile tank. Averaged around 32mpg and that was after a 2 hour traffic jam with the A/C on on the way to the beach for the DMB show. Didn't move 10 miles in 2 hours. Who know what it would've been if not for that.
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08-01-2013, 07:40 AM | #4675 |
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Someone tested the fuel usage at idle over the winter, it was like .17gal/hr, don't quote me on that though I didn't find the thread before posting the number. Either way it is extremely low, so it doesn't have a lot of effect on total mpg. Idle isn't the problem, stop and go (normal city driving is)
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