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Old 04-16-2013, 07:48 PM   #1
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Hello,

I have a stock 06 STi, and i'm going to get into tracking the car. I wanna purchase a set of rims for the track with some track tires, but i don't know what i should go with. The look isn't too important since it is only going to be used for the track. I mostly want an effective weight, size, and tire. What would you guys suggest?

Thanks!

P.S. I have never tracked the car before, so if i should start out with a street tire, than please tell me! I'm open for all suggestions!

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Old 04-16-2013, 08:26 PM   #2
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There are so many threads on this. They are also called wheels, not rims.

But I'll bite.

I really like the RPF1, they aren't super cheap, but cheaper than most for the weight. I'm shooting myself in the foot with this one, but Drag wheels are SUPER cheap, they don't weigh much and come in a fair amount of sizes.

Any 17/18 inch wheel with a higher offset will work nicely. I like a 17x9 with a 38+ offset, but I have the 5x100 lugs.

As for tires, that's like opening a can of worms. The BFG Rivals, Direzza ZII, Potenza RE-11A and Kumho Ecsta XS are all pretty great tires for the 2013 season. I went with the RE-11A and I feel good about it.
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There are so many threads on this. They are also called wheels, not rims.

But I'll bite.

I really like the RPF1, they aren't super cheap, but cheaper than most for the weight. I'm shooting myself in the foot with this one, but Drag wheels are SUPER cheap, they don't weigh much and come in a fair amount of sizes.

Any 17/18 inch wheel with a higher offset will work nicely. I like a 17x9 with a 38+ offset, but I have the 5x100 lugs.

As for tires, that's like opening a can of worms. The BFG Rivals, Direzza ZII, Potenza RE-11A and Kumho Ecsta XS are all pretty great tires for the 2013 season. I went with the RE-11A and I feel good about it.
They don't make RPF1's that clear Brembos in an offset that would work.

If you don't want to do a lot of fender work, I'd suggest a wheel with a +45 offset or higher. You might be able to run something as low as a +42, depending on tire size.

Avoid Drag wheels. If you want light and strong you're going to have to spend a decent amount. What's your budget?

Those tire suggestions are good. I would also add the Hankook RS3 to the list.
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They don't make RPF1's that clear Brembos in an offset that would work.

If you don't want to do a lot of fender work, I'd suggest a wheel with a +45 offset or higher. You might be able to run something as low as a +42, depending on tire size.

Avoid Drag wheels. If you want light and strong you're going to have to spend a decent amount. What's your budget?

Those tire suggestions are good. I would also add the Hankook RS3 to the list.

Didn't want to revive an old thread but I didn't want anyone to be misinformed regarding RPF1 fitment and clearing brembos. I have an 05 WRX STi with brembo's (obviously) and 17x8 +45 offset RPF1s clear my brakes no problem. AFAIK all Enkei racing wheels should clear brembos
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The convex enkei wheels clear brembos, flat face and concave do not without a spacer is my understanding.
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Old 01-31-2014, 08:31 PM   #6
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Didn't want to revive an old thread but I didn't want anyone to be misinformed regarding RPF1 fitment and clearing brembos. I have an 05 WRX STi with brembo's (obviously) and 17x8 +45 offset RPF1s clear my brakes no problem.
Yes, all 8" rpf1's clear no issues.

However, the wheels being discussed in this thread are 9".

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The convex enkei wheels clear brembos, flat face and concave do not without a spacer is my understanding.
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No. Only 8" rpf1's clear. All 9"+ rpf1's require a spacer.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:31 PM   #7
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Hello,

I have a stock 06 STi, and i'm going to get into tracking the car. I wanna purchase a set of rims for the track with some track tires, but i don't know what i should go with. The look isn't too important since it is only going to be used for the track. I mostly want an effective weight, size, and tire. What would you guys suggest?

Thanks!

P.S. I have never tracked the car before, so if i should start out with a street tire, than please tell me! I'm open for all suggestions!
If this is your first time tracking, even if its a car you've never driven before, explore its stock limits before doing anything. this helps you realize the deficiencies in the setup, and you can begin improving it from there.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:42 PM   #8
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thanks for responding, and sorry for not doing an intensive search. Lots of the searches i found were for 08+ with mods.

Sorry for saying "rims", now i know. I've seen rims and wheels get thrown around so much, i'm not even sure what the correct term is. Now i know...

So should i throw the stock STI tires on current rims and go from there? I figured if i'm going to be buying some new tires, might as well upgrade right? The reason why i wanted a different set of wheels is because i daily my car and it's much easier to have 2 sets of wheels.

The car has coil overs and is stage 2 right now, and i'm actually going back to the stock struts, stock exhaust, and tune because i want to learn more about the car and see if i'm able to figure out what needs upgrading on my own. I want to learn about my car more instead of just throwing all these "upgrades" on the car.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:07 PM   #9
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If you drive on crap tires it helps to improve your driving skill, too. Finding the limits on a crappy setup help you to push the limit on a better one.
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Let's start with this. What wheels and tires are on the car now?
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Old 04-19-2013, 02:50 AM   #11
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Currently i have my stock BBS's on cheap tires for daily driving (they were literally $79 tires to get me though winter).

I don't wanna spend more than maybe 1500 total? I don't really know what a good setup would cost. I'm willing to spend the money if its beneficial!
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Old 04-19-2013, 03:02 AM   #12
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and you really should find some 100 octane unleaded and fill up with that so ya dont blow it up

and buy the cheapest decent MAX perf tires you can and thrash hell outta them....and buy another set and thrash hell outta them....then buy good tires
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Old 04-19-2013, 01:28 PM   #13
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I would suggest going your first time on those crappy tires.

If you still want a dedicated set of wheels+tires, it's going to be difficult to stay within the $1500 budget. You could go with something from Rota, or maybe the Mach V Awesome wheel, and a set of Hankook RS3s. Or look for something used.
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:07 PM   #14
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I too Have an 06 STI that I am starting to AutoX. Right now I am using stock rim size 17x8. Running STU classing. I am not an expert, i would say after about 10 total driving events, PDX and autoX combined, im nearing intermediate, but probably still beginner.

Anyway, based on your budget Id stay with the stock wheels for now. The stock BBS' for 06 are 17x8 and weigh sub 20 lbs each which is not bad at all. Spend your money on tires (when you feel ready).

Personally I am running 235 45 17 (225 45 is stock size) on my wheels but on the 8" rim i feel there is too much flex for autocross in the sidewall, but that is also because the tires I have are not of the product listed above (Michellin PS2). More flex in the sidewall may have some more benefit in road courses though with higher speed turns and slower transitions.

Since you are a beginner you have a lot to learn about weight transfer, tire flex, suspension dynamics, etc about the car. Not to mention getting a feel for your car behind the wheel and driving techniques in general.

I would like to pose a more specific question to this thread:

What tire size is really the recommended size for each tire product listed above on the stock wheel size (given the stiffer sidewalls over what I am running)?

EDIT: I am sure there are threads on this that I am missing. If so just say so. Sorry in advance.
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Joining in on this, so for an 06 STi with stock wheels the best size would be 235/45-17 correct? Thanks for any input in advance
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Joining in on this, so for an 06 STi with stock wheels the best size would be 235/45-17 correct? Thanks for any input in advance
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Cool thanks, just ordered the RE-11A
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