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Old 08-15-2014, 04:24 PM   #76
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Ok ok put me on the preorder list. I wants.
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Old 08-15-2014, 05:56 PM   #77
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This is my car in the pictures. They've only been on two days. No, the drop isn't crazy low, the ride is not harsh, and it doesn't make for a bumpy/bouncy ride. What is does do is ride much more smoothly, corning as been nicely flattened out, and Im quite happy with the drop.

I highly recommend these springs!!!
Would like to hear your comparison of ride quality, stock vs RCE springs.

I'm in the camp that doesn't want a stiffer, or a more harsh ride as compared to the stock ride. I love the drop from what I'm seeing in the pictures... but mine is a DD in New England, so if the ride was a little softer I wouldn't complain.

I'm torn between these springs, or maybe going KW v1 coils. Two very different routes.
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Old 08-15-2014, 06:09 PM   #78
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Maybe you should read exactly what you quoted? LOL.
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Old 08-15-2014, 06:34 PM   #79
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Dont know yet. Still feeling the market. We will only do Blacks( Regular Guy Springs) if the demand is there.

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Is it OK to use yellow on the stock shocks then? I don't mine changing the strut a little bit earlier than I should, but too early is kinda a big trade off for me.

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Old 08-15-2014, 07:34 PM   #80
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Maybe you should read exactly what you quoted? LOL.
It's been two days... And two sentences is hardly a lot of feedback. Plus they're still in the honeymoon phase LOLOLOLOLOL
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:51 PM   #81
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Myles - any spring rates you can share, or did I miss them?


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Old 08-16-2014, 02:28 PM   #82
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Would like to hear your comparison of ride quality, stock vs RCE springs.

I'm in the camp that doesn't want a stiffer, or a more harsh ride as compared to the stock ride. I love the drop from what I'm seeing in the pictures... but mine is a DD in New England, so if the ride was a little softer I wouldn't complain.

I'm torn between these springs, or maybe going KW v1 coils. Two very different routes.
Ride is definitely not harsh at all, just more firm, and more smooth. Lower stance, and stiffer rates improve corning a good amount. Only thing I have noticed that I could site as a negative difference is that I have to take speed humps(traffic calming kind) a little slower. Other than that it's improvements across the board with no drawbacks noticed at all. Not a single regret installing these springs except I have to move 18" Wheels and tires way up on the priority list.

Coilovers were on my mod list too. Mostly because I wanted to be able to come back up for the winter months, but I gotta say that I still have very decent ground clearance. I put Springs on my 09 E90 M3, drop was perfect, and never went the coilover route as I had planned.

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Old 08-16-2014, 09:38 PM   #83
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We will release rates soon.

Keep in mind that even though the rates are increased, the lowering springs ARE progressive. So the common quote you hear from most people " felt better than stock on the harder smaller bumps" is observed because the stock springs are more linear BUT softer. So you get the rate you get immediately in the initial stroke(oem). Progressive springs allow for a slight softer initial( and by initial I mean 4-5mm of travel. This is done to maintain pressure between the perches and ALL lowering springs are this way. Beyond that initial distance the rates ramp up fast and thats where the performance gain is. So small coils absorb the small bumps and beyond that the springs are very linear and the handling improvement can be felt.

Hope I explained that well.

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Old 08-16-2014, 09:59 PM   #84
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In my opinion this is THE perfect ride height. Just worried about the longevity of the stock shocks coupled with these springs. I may wait for a good spring/shock combo to be tried out first by others before I bite the bullet on THESE springs.
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Old 08-16-2014, 10:22 PM   #85
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Ride is definitely not harsh at all, just more firm, and more smooth. Lower stance, and stiffer rates improve corning a good amount. Only thing I have noticed that I could site as a negative difference is that I have to take speed humps(traffic calming kind) a little slower. Other than that it's improvements across the board with no drawbacks noticed at all. Not a single regret installing these springs except I have to move 18" Wheels and tires way up on the priority list.

Coilovers were on my mod list too. Mostly because I wanted to be able to come back up for the winter months, but I gotta say that I still have very decent ground clearance. I put Springs on my 09 E90 M3, drop was perfect, and never went the coilover route as I had planned.
Can you measure the distance from the turbo skid plate to the ground on a flat surface (or from your front lip if the ground clearance is lower there)? The office complex I work at just has to have huge trenches to catch water as well as speed bumps every 20 feet or so.
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:57 PM   #86
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Ride is definitely not harsh at all, just more firm, and more smooth. Lower stance, and stiffer rates improve corning a good amount. Only thing I have noticed that I could site as a negative difference is that I have to take speed humps(traffic calming kind) a little slower. Other than that it's improvements across the board with no drawbacks noticed at all.
Awesome, appreciate for the feedback!

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We will release rates soon.

Keep in mind that even though the rates are increased, the lowering springs ARE progressive. So the common quote you hear from most people " felt better than stock on the harder smaller bumps" is observed because the stock springs are more linear BUT softer. So you get the rate you get immediately in the initial stroke(oem). Progressive springs allow for a slight softer initial( and by initial I mean 4-5mm of travel. This is done to maintain pressure between the perches and ALL lowering springs are this way. Beyond that initial distance the rates ramp up fast and thats where the performance gain is. So small coils absorb the small bumps and beyond that the springs are very linear and the handling improvement can be felt.

Hope I explained that well.

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Perfect explanation, forgot about the progressive vs linear characteristic when comparing against stock springs.
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Old 08-18-2014, 10:19 AM   #87
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Also a note, some springs are VERY progressive. Some (like ours) just have that smidge of initial progression that takes a little of the edge off. The very progressive springs don't feel very consistent to us when pushing it and so with ours we make sure the "meat" of the spring is linear.

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Old 08-18-2014, 11:07 AM   #88
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Also a note, some springs are VERY progressive. Some (like ours) just have that smidge of initial progression that takes a little of the edge off. The very progressive springs don't feel very consistent to us when pushing it and so with ours we make sure the "meat" of the spring is linear.

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this sounds perfect for what I'm looking for actually.
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So how many cycles or miles does it typically take before springs start to fatigue and lose their initial deformation characteristics? These springs in particular?
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So how many cycles or miles does it typically take before springs start to fatigue and lose their initial deformation characteristics? These springs in particular?
500,000 cycles.

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Old 08-18-2014, 01:48 PM   #91
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500,00 cycles.

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Is that 500,000 or 50,000? Any idea what the correlation is to miles driven, assuming a DD with primarily highway miles?
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Is that 500,000 or 50,000? Any idea what the correlation is to miles driven, assuming a DD with primarily highway miles?
5 hundred thousand.

equals close to 200k miles.

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5 hundred thousand.

equals close to 200k miles.

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HI Myles.. can u answer one of the questions above? i am interested as well..

"Can you measure the distance from the turbo skid plate to the ground on a flat surface (or from your front lip if the ground clearance is lower there)? The office complex I work at just has to have huge trenches to catch water as well as speed bumps every 20 feet or so"

thank you
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Hey Ivory, I gotta say the car looks great with that drop. Almost reminds me of the M3 from the side. Btw, did u put spacers also? And what size if you have?
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Still awaiting an email or pm back from you guys, apparently your too busy to allow me to preorder an item that's not even out yet. Lack of any form of customer service is disappointing and quite frankly unexpected.


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HI Myles.. can u answer one of the questions above? i am interested as well..

"Can you measure the distance from the turbo skid plate to the ground on a flat surface (or from your front lip if the ground clearance is lower there)? The office complex I work at just has to have huge trenches to catch water as well as speed bumps every 20 feet or so"

thank you
Wild guess here, I'll take a stab at it. Since these springs will lower the car 0.9", I'm assuming the ground clearance will be 0.9" less than what it currently is.

DIY instructions:
1) Measure the distance from the turbo skid plate to the ground perpendicular to the surface.
2) Subtract 0.9" from step 1 measurement. Make sure units are consistent!
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Wild guess here, I'll take a stab at it. Since these springs will lower the car 0.9", I'm assuming the ground clearance will be 0.9" less than what it currently is.

DIY instructions:
1) Measure the distance from the turbo skid plate to the ground perpendicular to the surface.
2) Subtract 0.9" from step 1 measurement. Make sure units are consistent!
Manufacturer claims can always be off. Kind of like when you bought your Grillcraft grill it said it gives it a nice look to your car.

Just kidding, but it never hurts to get more measurements. Tell you what, I'll measure it now just for you and edit the post and then someone else with them can eventually measure it an we will see if you're right.
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Still awaiting an email or pm back from you guys, apparently your too busy to allow me to preorder an item that's not even out yet. Lack of any form of customer service is disappointing and quite frankly unexpected.


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You should call them. They one of the best at customer satisfaction. Always the easiest ways to get an answer, and you can give them a credit card right over the phone.

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You should call them. They one of the best at customer satisfaction. Always the easiest ways to get an answer, and you can give them a credit card right over the phone.

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I already got rsr lowering springs so it's too late.


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Looks like we emailed you back on the 11th and were awaiting a response from you. Give us a call and we can sort it out, I will be in the office in the next hour.

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