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02-16-2016, 12:04 AM | #201 |
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02-16-2016, 09:20 AM | #202 | |
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02-17-2016, 11:27 AM | #203 |
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Good tutorial. Now I can be a bad ass even more
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02-17-2016, 01:54 PM | #204 |
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Nice write up.
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02-19-2016, 12:48 PM | #205 |
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Another followup -- I really wasn't impressed with the DEI Titanium wrap. It has such a loose weave that you have to be careful with it, and the weave also gets 'tweaked' when you pull it tight around each bend. Finished product looks kind of 'fuzzy' and not as sleek as I was hoping. I guess it'll work, but the 1" stuff especially sucked to work with -- for that 1" width you're pulling it tight which shrinks it down to .75" and then you're overlapping by at least .25" so you only get .5" on each wrap -- its very slow and painful. I would seriously consider using 2" wrap next time even on headers and just pulling it tight in the bends. I asked 2 friends and they both used 2" and were happy with it, and it would be much quicker to do.
Also, everyone will be different, but I used almost the full 2 packs of 1" x 50' on my Killer B header alone. I am going to order another 15' to do my uppipe. Just a heads up that it will really depend on your overlap and how much you use at the collector but you might use more than the two packs that the OP used. Honestly, this sucked. And its not nearly as itchy as the old stuff, but it is still a little itchy so wear long pants and long sleeves and gloves if possible, and a mask wouldn't hurt either to avoid a slight itch in your throat. After spending probably 4 hours in total doing this, I would give a lot more through to just putting the money into Swaintech coating the next time around. Hey, at least the hard part is over with. Last edited by TROLL; 02-19-2016 at 01:27 PM. |
02-19-2016, 01:21 PM | #206 |
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I redid my headers in the DEI titanium wrap last year. The fiberglass wrap did not hold up super well as I did a lot of driving without the skidplate so wind and road debris shredded it within a year. If you put this on and daily drive your car, I would highly recommend some sort of protection for it.
I honestly think that 2" wrap is totally fine for something like the killerb headers. I had no problems using the 2" on my TWE header which probably has tighter bends than the killerb. The titanium wrap did not go as far as the fiberglass. I used two rolls on the headers of 2" where as with the fiberglass I had enough for the uppipe and downpipe. It is much easier to work with though being that it is dry. Wetting the fiberglass is super messy and a real pain to use, however the titanium does make a mess as well. It produces a crazy fiber dust that you probably shouldn't breath. I didn't notice it until I put my headlamp on when I was almost done and saw a bunch of sparkles floating in front of my face. The wet fiberglass does not do this obviously... just makes a mess. |
02-19-2016, 01:26 PM | #207 |
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Yeah honestly I thought the wet wrap was pretty easy to use and of course didn't dust. The titanium wrap does dust and it does itch for sure (hands, arms, throat), just not as bad as the old wrap when its dry. Based on this thread and others I expected a superior product to what I had used in the past and I just didn't feel it was.
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02-19-2016, 01:36 PM | #208 |
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exactly. the benefits of the titanium is you don't have a 50' roll of a wet thing flopping around making a mess and i think the titanium is more durable. It is holding up a fair bit better than the fiberglass and I still run sometimes without the skidplate because it keeps the engine cooler.
But wet fiberglass makes no dust and I did not find it itchy at all because it was wet. |
02-19-2016, 07:51 PM | #209 |
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My wrap is officially 4 years old now. Did my oil change last friday and looked at it. 100% legit with no issues. Amazing. +1 would bang.
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02-19-2016, 08:16 PM | #210 |
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same here. the tomei headers i have has titanium wrap that is about 3 years old and still looks like new. the undertray makes a world of difference in engine cleanliness. i dont get why some people remove it just to make the oil change quicker.
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02-19-2016, 08:19 PM | #211 |
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I have to agree with just about all of Troll's statements on the dei 1" I used for my headers. Same experiences, same properties of the wrap.
Recently I had to unwrap about 8" of (dei) my number 4 runner to install a bung for my egt. It had only been installed for a few months, and it broke apart at every wrap because it had become brittle and more rigid. That said, undisturbed it doesn't really show any problems. My downpipe was wrapped a couple years ago. It has some wear near the bolts at the flange. But I've been able to take it on and off a few times without having an issue. It does work exceptionally well I'll give it that. Shortly after driving and getting it on the lift, I can put my hand on the header for 5 seconds before having to move away. That is impressive. |
11-09-2017, 09:48 AM | #212 | |
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11-09-2017, 01:17 PM | #213 |
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11-09-2017, 07:37 PM | #214 |
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