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02-19-2010, 10:48 AM | #176 |
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02-19-2010, 11:01 AM | #177 |
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Re: Compiling Tokico D-Specs settings
Seems like guys running the rce springs like around 4-4.5 tffs for dd.
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02-22-2010, 02:52 AM | #178 |
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tanabe GF 2 turns from full stiff front 2 1/2 turns from full stiff rear front strut brace subframe H-brace stock sway bars 17 x 8 ROTAs w/ 245 falken fk452s Handles decently I definitely need to make adjustments for best performance. I dont really care for a comfortable ride since i barely do 6000 miles a year and i drive it fairly aggressively all the time. Its stripped of back seat, back rest, rear mats, spare tire, jack, trunk carpet, everything back there is out. Im not sure how impressed i am with these shocks, although i know it might be me my lack of fine tuning and not buying a rear sway bar. Ive got a front cusco sway that isnt installed. My old 99 Audi A4 on Bilsteins and Tein S techs was far more sure footed than the wrx is now. The Audi was heavier and much slower, and also had crappy wheels and tires. I hope the thicker sway bars, some fender braces and some rear T-braces pull it all together. |
02-22-2010, 10:33 AM | #179 | |
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03-03-2010, 06:47 PM | #180 | |
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Re: Compiling Tokico D-Specs settings
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03-03-2010, 07:30 PM | #181 |
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The damping of the struts should be set with spring rates and road/track surface in mind.
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03-03-2010, 07:38 PM | #182 |
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2 tffs is WAY too stiff. We find that for most stiff springs (swift spec r, RCE) the optimal range is 4-5 tffs. No more is needed.
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03-03-2010, 08:43 PM | #183 | |
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03-09-2010, 12:32 PM | #184 |
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4.25 TFFS front, 4.75 rear Swift Spec-R springs 14 3/8" front; 13 1/2" rear (1/4" saggy butt spacer in rear) GTWorx front camber plates, Group N rears 24mm front/22mm rear sway bars 17x7 Prodrive P1 wheels, Dunlop star spec tires (225/45/17) -2.5 camber front, stock rear...0 toe This is my DD setting. For autocross I've cranked the struts up to as much as 2.5 TFFS and it performs very well. It is unbearable to drive that stiff on regular roads however so thank goodness for the rear adjustment extenders. 4.75 out back seems to be the right setting to eliminate most of the rear strut clunk, at least on my car. Last edited by viper74656; 03-23-2010 at 09:25 AM. |
03-22-2010, 07:27 PM | #185 |
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RCE Black "Regular Guy" Springs GroupN Front/Rear mounts 1/4" Saggy butt spacer 22mm Cusco Adjustable Stock wheels, Pirelli Nero Pzero M+S tires Approx: -1.0 camber front, -.25 rear (closest I could get to zero), 0 toe DD: 4.25 TFFS front, 4.75 TFFS rear |
03-29-2010, 06:25 PM | #186 |
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F: 5.5 TFFS R: 5.5 TFFS USDM STi take-offs Stock wheels w/ potenza re960 all weather tires Just put these on yesterday and am loving the ride so far, huuuuge improvement over the stock struts (especially w/ one of em blown). Thanks again TIC! Last edited by miyagi; 03-29-2010 at 07:18 PM. |
04-01-2010, 01:24 AM | #187 |
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5.0 TFFS Front / 5.0 TFFS Rear *Break in only* sti takeoff springs Group N Front top / Sti rear top TIC spacer 22mm FSB/ 20-22-24 RSB Falken Ziex 912 tires -1.4 camber front / -1.0 camber rear / 0 toe "downgraded" from Whiteline G4, but I actually like this setup a lot better. No more being tossed around when driving in downtown and on the many bad roads in Baltimore. Wife actually liked riding in the car for the first time in 5 years Last edited by gooder77; 04-14-2010 at 09:44 AM. |
04-14-2010, 08:02 AM | #188 | |
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04-14-2010, 11:48 AM | #189 |
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What about some settings with JDM pinks (the 252/217 rates)? What settings for those for typical 04 WRX DD?
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04-14-2010, 12:17 PM | #190 | |
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There is no TYPICAL setting for DD or AutoX/Track. There is really only one setting. That setting is called optimal. Notice how Tony never really said two settings? That's because there really isn't two. I just wanted to get that clear. A set of springs with a set spring rate only has 1 proper dampening rate. It can work with many dampening rates, but at any other dampening rate, you will be either losing too much feel, grip or both. The reason why people go stiffer for autocross is because it does actually improve the reaction of the car and reduce roll. However, at the end of the day, you're ultimately losing too much grip, and making the dampers do work that a spring and swaybar is supposed to do. I used to have higher settings for autocross thinking that with some doodling I could decrease the understeer a little. Then I got a bigger front swaybar, dialed down the rears and fronts. Man, what a difference... Point is, use the proper parts for the proper purpose. Now, for the actual answer. 5-6 FR should be your optimal range. Whether you want to make it stiffer or softer than it's supposed to be, that's your call. Keep in mind that even with the best manufactured struts, there will always be some sort of variance. I imagine with cheaper struts such as these they manufacture tolerance is a bit higher, so your settings will vary. |
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04-14-2010, 03:37 PM | #191 |
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Cool, is there a chart or something that shows dspec settings compared to spring rates? Like I thought that there would be a bigger difference between dspec settings with JDM pinks compared to blue Prodrives for example...
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04-14-2010, 07:51 PM | #192 | |
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So to make the car a bit more bearable over the road I slightly under-dampen the springs. Not enough to bounce up and down three times, but just enough to take out a bit more harshness. The same goes for autocross, but in an inverse way. I over-dampen the springs a bit there to give me a quasi-stiffer spring rate. It's a compromise I'm willing to make with the springs and dampers and even though they may not be optimal for the springs these settings work very well for me. |
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04-14-2010, 07:55 PM | #193 |
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Yeah, I've been sitting back, watching this thread for, what, 2 years now, shaking my head the whole time going "why on earth are people choosing the wrong damping?" the whole time.
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04-18-2010, 05:01 PM | #194 | |
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05-06-2010, 03:11 PM | #195 |
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can someone suggest what setting i should use with the tanabe GFs
325 lbs/in front 246 lbs/in rear previously had it too stiff (2 turns and 2.5), now at 4 turns front, 4.5 rear. Feels much better. But would like advice from someone with more experience with them. I dont care about daily driving or comfortable. I use this car at the track and autocross. |
05-06-2010, 06:30 PM | #196 |
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05-15-2010, 03:53 PM | #197 | |
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i am now looking at getting this same setup for my my06 wrx sedan.Tokico dspecs and swift spec r springs. It will be a daily driver and i want to make sure i dont get something that is too stiff and bouncy. When you say you are happy with ride, how would you describe it? |
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05-15-2010, 05:18 PM | #198 | |
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05-15-2010, 10:10 PM | #199 |
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was 4.5 tffs front and 4.75 tffs Rear for about 6-8 months felt pretty good there. currently at 4.75tffs front and 5 tffs rear feels a bit too bouncy, but this is supposed to be the magic spot |
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