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11-14-2012, 02:53 PM | #976 |
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Both Inside Line and Automobile simply state that it's good for 250 hp on 93 octane and 230 hp on 91 octane. They don't make a distinction between Japanese or U.S. 93 octane. Just guessing that since this is the U.S. version being tested that they are referring to U.S. 93 octane but I could be wrong. The Subaru site just mentions "premium gas".
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11-14-2012, 02:55 PM | #977 | |
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11-14-2012, 02:58 PM | #978 | |
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I passed on the 2005 manual XT due to terrible fuel economy. This new one I'd buy in an instant. BTO (Build To Order) didn't work out for LGT... I know it's not the same thing... but given how skittish SOA gets after they get burned on something... not much hope here |
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11-14-2012, 02:59 PM | #979 |
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11-14-2012, 03:04 PM | #980 | |
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We do not know what turbo the US model will use as it tends to differ from the twin-scroll'd, EL headered JDM models. Last edited by Snow Drift; 11-14-2012 at 03:11 PM. |
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11-14-2012, 03:05 PM | #981 |
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Thanks for the reply Snow Drift. I guess I'll wait until the car magazines actually test them at their own facilities for a better idea of the performance capabilities. I'm assuming 91 octane will be used at that time so I'll be able to better compare the Turbo's performance against it's competitors. Is 93 octane more readily available in Japan?
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11-14-2012, 03:06 PM | #982 | |
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11-14-2012, 03:14 PM | #983 |
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In Japan they use a different metric. I believe the premium fuel in Japan in 98 ROM. Which is a better fuel than our 93 oct. That is also why their STI's have had 2.0L, twin scroll, higher redline, to make 300 hp compared to the 2.5L we have.
I believe, the 10+ Legacy GT in the US has a twin scroll now that it uses the low/front mounted turbo. So there is a case the XT will use it as well, just not sure which turbo. The Legacy 2.0DIT makes 296hp compared to the XT's rated 250. |
11-14-2012, 03:24 PM | #984 | |
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It's also why thier gas is more expensive than ours too... |
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11-14-2012, 03:28 PM | #985 | |
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You really think 87 would sap it of that much power? Getting awfully close to 2.5X numbers at that point. XT= 93 octane or might as well get 2.5X if you want to run 87. How do Ford/Kia/Hyundai get such good numbers on regular fuel with their turbos? |
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11-14-2012, 03:44 PM | #986 | |
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11-14-2012, 04:01 PM | #987 |
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General rule of thumb of octane conversion
95 RON = 91 AKI 97-98 RON = 92-93 AKI 100 RON = 94ish AKI anything below 95 RON is your normal crap gas, 87-89 AKI (RON 91-92) AKI = Anti Knock Index RON = Research Octane Number Last edited by vrusso; 11-14-2012 at 04:07 PM. |
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We'll have to find out how the ECU of the direct injected FA20 reacts to an E85 mix. EDIT: 230HP would be plenty fine for most people though. Last edited by neg_matnik; 11-14-2012 at 05:30 PM. |
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11-14-2012, 05:23 PM | #989 |
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Is it possible that when the Inside Line and Automobile Magazine prototype drive articles stated that the Turbo is good for 250 hp on 93 octane and 230 hp on 91 octane they were referring to RON and not AKI?
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11-14-2012, 06:26 PM | #990 |
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Thanks for posting that video. I like the Forester much better now after seeing it in 3D vs. the 2D photos. It looks really nice driving around that course.
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11-14-2012, 06:52 PM | #991 |
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I found a picture of the rear end of the new USspec Forester XT and it does, indeed, carry the word SUBARU on the rear gate, unlike the Jspec version. It's also missing the wart on the lower part of the passenger side rear-view mirror that is present on the Jspec version.
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11-14-2012, 07:01 PM | #992 |
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I'm so sick of the roof antennas. Why can't they just be integrated into the car? My 2005 STI didn't have anything protruding. I know for factory-installed NAV they use it, but standard radio shouldn't NEED it. The car has roof racks, but you have to negotiate with that dumb antenna anytime you want to load anything substantial.
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11-14-2012, 07:07 PM | #993 | |
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11-14-2012, 07:14 PM | #994 |
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I'm an all or nothing kind of guy. The base remaining is still bothersome. I'm aware that it just screws off, but I still fail to see why it's come to this in the Year of 2012. I'm assuming HD Radio or something? Off-topic, I know. Your solution of just screwing off the antenna is okay for fitting things up there, but then there goes your reception.
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11-14-2012, 07:40 PM | #995 | |
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- DOHC heads with AVCS. - longer stroke (promoting earlier torque production), smaller bore and an extra 40cc of total engine displacement (more displacement is also good for torque production obviously). - there are also all the changes that were made to reduce friction, parasitic losses and pumping losses. All this stuff adds up in the end and the FB engine is a much better platform for Subaru to build upon. |
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11-14-2012, 07:52 PM | #996 | |
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On another note, the FM radio sound quality of the 2011 Forester stock HU is bad. The lows and mediums are OK, but the response in the highs is very weak. It's really a problem with the radio section only, as audio quality and response is good for all the other inputs (aux jack, USB and so on). I hope Subaru got this fixed already. |
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11-14-2012, 08:05 PM | #997 | |
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11-14-2012, 08:17 PM | #998 |
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The Car Connection has published its 'Preview Drive' review of the new USspec Forester at http://www.thecarconnection.com/news...-preview-drive. Remarkably, it has also published a couple of picture galleries from the event itself held at Subaru’s proving grounds in Japan. In theory, the reporters invited there were supposed to yield their cameras and phones to Subaru security before entering.
http://www.thecarconnection.com/pict...rive_gallery-1 http://www.thecarconnection.com/pict...rive_gallery-2 That site also has a snap 'Overview' review at http://www.thecarconnection.com/over..._forester_2014 which contains a 69-picture gallery of the new USspec Forester, apparently supplied by SOA. http://www.thecarconnection.com/phot..._forester_2014 |
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