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07-11-2013, 02:38 PM | #626 | |
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If the pilot screws up, the pilot dies. If ATC screws up, the pilot dies. Old joke
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07-11-2013, 02:39 PM | #627 |
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he didn't affirm that the question was if tech was or was not making his job tougher?
or the answer that it is making it tougher? I'm so confused. because I meant to say that he assumed the question as that (work tougher or not).. and then explained how tech was making it easier, but prob going to increase the load. |
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07-11-2013, 02:40 PM | #629 |
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07-11-2013, 02:41 PM | #630 |
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07-11-2013, 02:41 PM | #631 |
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07-11-2013, 02:42 PM | #632 |
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07-11-2013, 02:44 PM | #633 | |
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07-11-2013, 02:44 PM | #634 |
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07-11-2013, 02:48 PM | #635 |
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While it makes our job easier, it just allows for more traffic, which makes it tougher on the pilot and the controller. That's why in a lot the the higher density facilities they don't work a eight hour shift. There are some facilities that work six hour shifts, or even four to keep the mind fresh for the next guy.
In no way should it hinder core competence. If it does the controller would be shown the door before he or she even obtained the rating. |
07-11-2013, 02:55 PM | #636 | |
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there's a good CVR/FDR vid of the C5 crash in dover where the crew had an eng fail on takeoff. they secured it, brought it back around but at one point had all the levers back to idle, and then brought three levers (out of four) out of idle again but no one realized that they brought the dead engine thrust lever off the stop and left one good engine at idle. ended up bleeding all their speed off trying to stay aloft heavily loaded, configured with gear, flaps and using only 2/4 engines... don't want to spoil the ending for you: keep an eye on the ASI as things progress (and the thrust lever positions as well as the engine N1 outputs after the throttle swap) |
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07-11-2013, 02:57 PM | #637 | |
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As I follow the thread in the pilot boards, a lot of people who've worked for these airlines in Asia have chimed in. Here's another interesting one.
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07-11-2013, 03:03 PM | #638 | |
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Also, another account of the view from the UAL flight holding short of the runway...
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07-11-2013, 03:05 PM | #639 | |
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07-11-2013, 03:12 PM | #641 | |
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07-11-2013, 03:17 PM | #642 |
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07-11-2013, 03:37 PM | #643 |
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wait, you're a controller in austin? Can you give me a super sweet-ass behind the scenes airport tour?
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07-11-2013, 03:57 PM | #644 | |
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I work at Hood Army Airfield right now. We may be taking over Killeen ARAC and Tower because of sequestration. The DoD runs t Killeen Regional and they can't afford to close. The ARAC has everything between Dallas and Houston just about and pretty much Austin as well.
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It makes me feel pretty good about my job. Last edited by Vectors2Final; 07-11-2013 at 04:02 PM. |
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07-11-2013, 06:10 PM | #645 | |
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I've watched that video before. Just because there are more people in the cockpit doesn't mean anyone had an idea what's going. Same thing happened in a P-3 a few years ago. They spun in and luckily recovered at 80' but totaled it because they snapped the wing spar during to recovery. |
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07-11-2013, 06:15 PM | #646 |
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A friend of mine in Korea was a controller with me. He got a qualified non-select for the Army WOFF. He spoke perfect English, Spanish and French. Had a bachelors in aeronautics and he had his multiengine rating with a we thousand hours under his belt. He go a condition release and was going to fly jets, but they were full up and he is now in the Navy as a P-3 driver.
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07-11-2013, 06:41 PM | #647 |
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I'm starting to like Deborah Hersman in unnatural ways.
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07-11-2013, 06:48 PM | #648 |
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07-11-2013, 07:03 PM | #649 | |
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I work with some Dash 7s and 8s in Afghanistan as well, although the Dash 7 was not in the same capacity as it was in Korea |
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07-11-2013, 07:12 PM | #650 | |
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Some notes from the NTSB brief today I took from the pilot boards. I'll have a full account a little later.
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