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08-10-2011, 08:16 AM | #1 | |
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NHTSA says that the Pagani Huayra can’t be sold in the U.S.
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08-10-2011, 08:33 AM | #2 |
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Setting aside draconian airbag standards for a moment, Pagani seriously can't raise $5 million to ensure a foothold in one of the world's biggest markets?
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08-10-2011, 08:53 AM | #3 |
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Ok I guess I'll be the first with the obligatory "guess I'm getting my deposit back" joke.
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08-10-2011, 10:06 AM | #4 |
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One day before it comes to the US and the government pulls this card? Add this one to the pile...
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08-10-2011, 10:10 AM | #5 |
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I removed the DOT regulated/approved seatbelts and disconnected the airbags in my car. Shh, don't tell Big Brother.
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08-10-2011, 10:27 AM | #6 |
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I have to go with NHTSA on this issue. Yes, they can be annoying but their job is to keep us safe.
If I'm willing to shell out $1.1 mill for a supercar with that much speed,I would atleast want some sort of safety mechanism to go along with it. Not some shoddy obsolete 11-year-old air bag system. WTF? From what I've remembered(from Dateline NBC), the older system doesnt regulate deployment force, and can sometimes kill you. Either develope or license the technology. Get with the program son! Where do they think this is, China? |
08-10-2011, 10:49 AM | #7 |
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Id take the stance of who the heck is the gov. to tell me I cant purchase this car here because its airbag tech is not up to snuff for MY SAFETY. That is MY decision to make. While I, and more than likely 90%+ of the members on here could not financially afford this vehicle, if I could, and wanted it, id be ticked.
In other news, I think I will go buy a motorcycle and drive it down the interstate with no helmet....stupid, arrogant, government! |
08-10-2011, 10:57 AM | #8 |
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My problem isn't the safety regulation but their piss poor timing.
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08-10-2011, 03:00 PM | #9 |
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Well, we didn't ask them to, and a large portion of people don't want them attempting to "keep us safe".
They're also the reason that fuel mileage in todays cars sucks, via the bloated weights. As well as why prices are high. Set minimal standards, and let consumers choose their priorities when buying a car. |
08-10-2011, 03:07 PM | #10 |
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This is why we can't have nice things. This also stinks of politics to me. They really can't grant an exception to a company that was planning on selling FIVE cars here?
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08-10-2011, 03:18 PM | #11 |
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How does Lamborghini, a car company bankrolled by one of the richest manufacturers in the business get to claim financial hardship while tiny independent Pagini gets denied?
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08-10-2011, 03:52 PM | #12 | |
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What I dont get it why they bother to uphold such standards on cars that costs so much and are so rare. Who gives a ****!? There will be all of about 20 of these, most of which will rarely ever leave the garage. The effect they will have on any type of mass vehicle statistic will be so negligible. |
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08-10-2011, 04:00 PM | #13 | |
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Actually Sky, I take that back, apparently they were turned down.
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08-10-2011, 04:22 PM | #14 | |
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08-10-2011, 05:12 PM | #15 |
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wow that sucks, Pagani completely designed this car to be sold in the US (part of why the front looks so ugly)
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08-10-2011, 11:06 PM | #16 |
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minors riding as a passenger in their parents' car did not get to choose what the vehicle's priorities should be. and no, i do not want you to be able to choose what height your vehicle bumper should be set at because your priorities might not be quite the same as mine. and no, i don't believe the auto industry (like wall street) is capable of regulating itself.
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08-11-2011, 06:29 AM | #17 |
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I hate to say that i side the gov on this one... Pagani is cheaping out.
However, there should be clause that you can sign for the car if you want it. So if u or your passenger get killed/injured by an old airbag system its 100% on your estate. |
08-11-2011, 08:08 AM | #18 |
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How much do you want to bet that the heirs of rich people who off themselves in such a Pagani would still sue?
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08-11-2011, 08:33 AM | #20 |
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My issue with this is the timing. First, does it really take THREE years? Second, how do you get off telling Pagani after they announce an American launch? Seriously? Perhaps Pagani jumped the gun, but I'd LOVE to know why those low-volume manufacturers were granted exemptions and Pagani wasn't.
As another poster said...this is for a HANDFUL of cars. You can't exactly crank out those hand made cars at a blistering pace. |
08-11-2011, 09:30 AM | #21 |
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^ Truf
Also, CT has no helmet law, yet I'll get a revenue genera... er, ticket if I don't have my seatbelt on. Explain the logic. |
08-11-2011, 09:44 AM | #22 |
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the point of advanced airbags was to cut down on the number of injuries and deaths that the older style airbags could cause to small, lightweight people (i.e. kids).
Now I'm not usually one of the "Wont someone please think of the children!!?!" types, but at the same time I can see why if the NHTSA is going to require cars to be equipped with airbags it would want those airbags to be of the non-child decapitating kind. Now obviously most people don't use their $1 million supercar to take their kid to school, but the point remains that this rule really isn't designed to protect the driver, it's for the passenger who may or may not have had any say in the matter. And to all the keyboard freedom fighters here, remember that while the big bad government may require cars to be sold with airbags, there's no law against ripping them out after you buy a car. Hell, you can even mount a big spike in the middle of your steering wheel if you want. Just in case you don't feel manly or free enough. |
08-11-2011, 10:09 AM | #23 |
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Again, a simple warning sticker on the sunvisor saying do not let a infant/toddler ride in the front seat of this 240 mph supercar due to minuscule chance of front end collision on the 1 day a month you actually drive it more than 3 miles to the car show.
kids and toddlers are not usually the ones riding in said cars. Usually it is an augmented blond with 3 functional synapses who would not lose anything from a sharp blow to the head. You can apply logic to this scenario all you want, but it is purely the ideal and utopian kind not at all based in reality. Allow consumers the option to accept risk when they want to. Saying the law is there to protect the innocent who are forced to ride in a pagani is pure BS as the statistical chance of any injury happening to a child riding in a Huayra getting hurt due to the air bag going off is so minuscule as to be laughable. Again, how many freedoms do you want to surrender in the name of safety? How many 1 in a million accidents do you want to pass laws to protect against. If you buy into this decision, then you should support a nation wide ban on swimming in any water off the coast of the entire united states, as sharks kill a handful of people every year. People should be required to wear chain mail suits to swim...for their protection... think of the innocent kids. Swimming should be illegal. We should form the National Institute for Protection Against Shark Attacks....NIPASA needs some government money. |
08-11-2011, 10:16 AM | #24 | |
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