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Old 05-14-2015, 10:09 AM   #1101
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one thing that i immediately noticed is that the turbine is longer than the one off the vf23, by about 2mm.

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despite the difference the portion that's in the volute area is identical and there is absolutely no interference once clamped all together. it just looks like the exducer was stretched out a tiny bit.
an update to my prior statements:

in fact the exducer is the same, while the inducer width (ie axially along the shaft, not diameter) has been increased. this increased width is NOT due to increased volute spacing on the housings.

there is no interference in either housing.
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:54 PM   #1102
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Thanks, interesting.
This is TiAl then.

It should be lighter, no?
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Old 05-14-2015, 02:49 PM   #1103
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from what i've been reading up on, tial specific gravity is ~4, while inconel is ~8.

if the volume of the casting is the same (and other than the small geometry changes, it substantially is) then we can expect the weight to be halved. just twirling it with my fingers that seems to be the case (ie, it's easier to start spinning and it stops spinning quickly).
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Old 08-28-2015, 05:40 AM   #1104
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Old 08-28-2015, 04:40 PM   #1105
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Old 08-29-2015, 12:38 AM   #1106
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Old 08-29-2015, 07:32 AM   #1107
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Hey, can I post the VF53 in my EJ207 info thread?
Also, can you take pictures of the turbines, let's see how many blades and what color oxidation is on them.
Thanks

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Old 08-29-2015, 12:00 PM   #1108
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Sure, you can use the pics

i'll take more pics when ive got the time,

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Old 08-29-2015, 01:19 PM   #1109
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Thanks for fixing the pictures.

The twinscroll ports are noticeably bigger on the VF53, looking forward to pics of the turbine.
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Old 08-30-2015, 10:49 AM   #1110
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The VF47 was my previous setup

I am currently on the JDM STI Twin Scroll turbo VF49

Car is a JDM WRX (S-GT), 4EAT, S204 headers, uppipe and downpipe, K&N intake, Fujitsubo catback, PW TMIC, tuned with 98oct and Meth Injection.

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Old 09-10-2015, 10:20 PM   #1111
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Any one knows if Blouch is able to make a bolt on twinscroll version of the 16g xtr with the housing of the VF36/VF37/VF49?
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Old 09-11-2015, 07:27 PM   #1112
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Im sure they would but i'd suggest against it. I'm not impressed with the SS version and if your spending that kind of coin just get a TS 1.5xtr.

If on a budget look into kingawa/kamak turbos they make a TS 16g non-dbb and they are reasonably priced and one guy had one tuned on a 207 and power band was good
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Old 09-11-2015, 07:54 PM   #1113
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Old 09-12-2015, 12:07 AM   #1114
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Im sure they would but i'd suggest against it. I'm not impressed with the SS version and if your spending that kind of coin just get a TS 1.5xtr.

If on a budget look into kingawa/kamak turbos they make a TS 16g non-dbb and they are reasonably priced and one guy had one tuned on a 207 and power band was good
Thanks for your input, I am actually looking for a minor upgrade from the VF series turbo in the future maybe.

The 1.5xtr is a 47lbs /min turbo and is honestly too big for my liking as it would be way too laggy on my 4EAT and for my stock EJ20 motor. I need something like the 16g size so that I can still have that fast spool, similar to the VF series turbos but with a tad bit more power.

I've heard that the Kinugawa and Kamak turbos are China made and are not reliable. I doubt i'd risk anything with those.

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I've heard that the Kinugawa and Kamak turbos are China made and are not reliable. I doubt i'd risk anything with those.
check your sources.
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Thanks for your input, I am actually looking for a minor upgrade from the VF series turbo in the future maybe.

The 1.5xtr is a 47lbs /min turbo and is honestly too big for my liking as it would be way too laggy on my 4EAT and for my stock EJ20 motor. I need something like the 16g size so that I can still have that fast spool, similar to the VF series turbos but with a tad bit more power.

I've heard that the Kinugawa and Kamak turbos are China made and are not reliable. I doubt i'd risk anything with those.

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Converting a VF36/37 into a 16gTS would be a GIANT WASTE OF MONEY. You will probably see no difference in power. I would at least go 18g.
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I've heard that the Kinugawa and Kamak turbos are China made and are not reliable. I doubt i'd risk anything with those.

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Converting a VF36/37 into a 16gTS would be a GIANT WASTE OF MONEY. You will probably see no difference in power. I would at least go 18g.
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Unless you wanna burn over 1500 on a TS 16XTR which Im guessing will make alil more power than vf37 and spool a 200-400rpms later. IMO go with the VF36/37 or jump up to a TS 18g like Liquid suggested
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Old 09-13-2015, 06:58 AM   #1118
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Unless you wanna burn over 1500 on a TS 16XTR which Im guessing will make alil more power than vf37 and spool a 200-400rpms later. IMO go with the VF36/37 or jump up to a TS 18g like Liquid suggested
I have some of the same concerns, but my plan is to send my '37 into Six Star Speed to get it P&P'd and converted to ball bearing and a billet wheel.

Should end up being cheaper or on-par with getting an entirely new turbo, but I'd assume also have zero compatibility issues.
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I have some of the same concerns, but my plan is to send my '37 into Six Star Speed to get it P&P'd and converted to ball bearing and a billet wheel.

Should end up being cheaper or on-par with getting an entirely new turbo, but I'd assume also have zero compatibility issues.
Check the six star thread on here before purchasing anything.

Not to go off topic but lots of people been having issues with them lately with not getting any emails or turbo backs
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I have some of the same concerns, but my plan is to send my '37 into Six Star Speed to get it P&P'd and converted to ball bearing and a billet wheel.



Should end up being cheaper or on-par with getting an entirely new turbo, but I'd assume also have zero compatibility issues.

Also a horrible idea.

Buy a new turbo, then sell the VF37 to recoup some of your costs. You will have a better turbo in the end.

The only time having a VF37 rebuilt/customized made sense was before Blouch created new casts removing the need to send in turbos.
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Old 09-14-2015, 09:09 AM   #1121
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Also a horrible idea.

Buy a new turbo, then sell the VF37 to recoup some of your costs. You will have a better turbo in the end.

The only time having a VF37 rebuilt/customized made sense was before Blouch created new casts removing the need to send in turbos.

Yeah, I'm always more comfortable with new, but the thing is, Blouch doesn't have anything that'll spool as fast as the stock '37 - from what one of their salespeople told me the best I'd be getting is 'comparable' from a 1.5 XTR TS. I think I was also looking at some Litchfield at one point, but there was a similar caveat. Was considering a VF-42, too but I feel like that's also a 'more power' turbo.

Maybe I'm a newb though, please tell me if I'm being unrealistic?

I just want something that makes the same (or slightly more, but no less) power, spools up faster, and has better throttle response. Am I asking too much?

Seems to me that's what 6SS can offer (if there are no issues getting it done)


Edit: Just read the 6SS thread again (last time was months ago) and while it seemed a bit rocky back then, I heard people were still getting work done. This is troubling. :\

Edit2: Blouch does upgrades?! I guess I'll need to talk to them!

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I just want something that makes the same (or slightly more, but no less) power, spools up faster, and has better throttle response. Am I asking too much?
vf36.

oem turbo reliability, tial shaft and exhaust wheel.

no, i'm not selling mine.
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Yeah, I'm always more comfortable with new, but the thing is, Blouch doesn't have anything that'll spool as fast as the stock '37 - from what one of their salespeople told me the best I'd be getting is 'comparable' from a 1.5 XTR TS. I think I was also looking at some Litchfield at one point, but there was a similar caveat. Was considering a VF-42, too but I feel like that's also a 'more power' turbo.

Maybe I'm a newb though, please tell me if I'm being unrealistic?

I just want something that makes the same (or slightly more, but no less) power, spools up faster, and has better throttle response. Am I asking too much?

Seems to me that's what 6SS can offer (if there are no issues getting it done)


Edit: Just read the 6SS thread again (last time was months ago) and while it seemed a bit rocky back then, I heard people were still getting work done. This is troubling. :\

Edit2: Blouch does upgrades?! I guess I'll need to talk to them!

Your best bet is either the VF36, or get in contact with Scoobyclinic in the UK. Last I looked they had 16/18g TS units which are custom made by Blouch to SC's specifications.
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Your best bet is either the VF36, or get in contact with Scoobyclinic in the UK. Last I looked they had 16/18g TS units which are custom made by Blouch to SC's specifications.
Ahhhh.

AFAIK the only TS that Scoobyclinic sells is their 42lb turbo, which is still quite a bit bigger than the VF-36/37, no? And it's £1500 (or nearly $3000 CAD) :\

I'm still waiting to hear back from Blouch about what they do in terms of upgrades. But maybe y'all are right and I'll need to just get a VF-36 :\
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