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06-09-2009, 12:15 PM | #26 |
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06-09-2009, 01:00 PM | #27 | |
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06-09-2009, 01:01 PM | #28 |
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Hi Jeff
i have a td05-18g right now on my 2.5 4eat, not worth it to sell my turbo for the hta68 ? |
06-09-2009, 01:05 PM | #29 |
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Ah, Unabomber does not think that my data-logging of raw intake temps is very useful without A/F. I guess I might not be informed enough about what the intake temp reading vs. what the car does with this reading vs. the actual air charge temp. means in the grand scheme of things. I just know what I logged from my thread mentioned above and as Jeff pointed out this was something that can be corrected on the dyno but maybe not on the street? I just know that on the street, without the fog cover off, the intake seems to be really hot.
More testing to come. Maybe if I ask really nicely I can get Tim and Jeff to tune with different intakes since they are easy to swap out and do some "real" data logging on the street to see if there is carry over. I would like the AEM to work. The general fit and finish of the product rocks. Last edited by tazswing; 06-09-2009 at 01:55 PM. |
06-09-2009, 01:13 PM | #30 |
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06-09-2009, 01:20 PM | #31 | |
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Did you tune the engine load/ RPM/ MAP table? This is very different than the older years and has up to 20% correction at 2600-3200 RPM, slight vacuum range. I have been playing with this table in my 08 with RomRaider and have made the hesitation better, but it is still there. I have stock injectors and intake BTW. |
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06-09-2009, 02:22 PM | #32 |
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Like to see that result.... thats my possible route, Im on E85 now with the VF but have ran a 20G also previously on the corn, be an 'interesting ' combo I feel
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06-09-2009, 04:39 PM | #33 |
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06-09-2009, 04:56 PM | #34 | |
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06-09-2009, 08:52 PM | #35 |
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If the 2.0L is the Blue Wagon then this my car and its running a ssac fmic.
Its very responsive on the street and very deceptive on how much power it has. The power is so linear that you dont realize how fast the car is going and even at the top end it still wants to go on. |
06-10-2009, 10:54 AM | #36 | ||
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06-11-2009, 12:02 AM | #37 |
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jeff, i was wondering if you could comment on the sudden change in slope of the HTA's boost at around 3250rpm. From 2000-3250rpm, it looks like the boost is building at nearly the same rate as the 18g, and then at 3250 it takes on that weird plataeu shape for ~750rpm. i don't see the same thing happening on the 2.5l. do you think this might have been a boost leak or maybe something funky with WGDC / WG spring pressure?
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06-11-2009, 05:59 PM | #38 |
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Interested in that myself.
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06-16-2009, 11:07 AM | #39 |
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Well, it is done. Revised 92oct. tune and an E85 map as well. All will be posted with dyno graphs if I know Tim and Jeff and also this is not my thread!!
I want to "publicly" thank Tim for the tune last night. I got out of there after 9pm and Tim still had to close. We had fun seeing what this turbo can do on stock internals with 80 degree shop temps. The intercooler stayed just that throughout the tune so that is good news. My new T-shirt will read: IloveE85. Cheers! |
06-16-2009, 12:20 PM | #40 | |
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06-16-2009, 12:35 PM | #41 | |
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06-16-2009, 03:40 PM | #42 |
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Ok, think I got the graphs correct now.
Ok, here we go: Mod list: DW850, WB255pump, Perrin two-cat DP, Borla CB, AEM CAI, FP HTA68 turbo, colder plugs, Motul 10W-40, around 80 degree shop temp, foglight cover removed, no heat shield on the AEM. 2008 STI, stock internals hence the boost not over 22psi. First is the tune with and without the catback. Nothing else was changed mechanically speaking between these two tunes. This is the Borla system. This is 92 Octane full boost (S#) vs. E85 full boost (S#): This is 92 Octane full boost (S#) vs. E85 low boost (S). Very cool since you can essentially make the same power with E85 with much less boost: Here we have both maps for the E85 tune presented (S# and S): Last edited by tazswing; 06-16-2009 at 04:43 PM. |
06-16-2009, 03:42 PM | #43 |
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Here we have lower boost setting for both fuel types (S:92 and S:E85):
The car remains highly drivable with the E85 tune. I can just putts around town in S# E85 and the car is, well, civil. This platform also delivers that power is a very predictable and drivable way when you get on it as well. Fun little chirps from the tires Anzen615s, too. I cannot comment on driving the 92 octane map yet since we rolled from one fuel type to the other without removing the car from the dyno. I will let Tim and/or Jeff comment on the technical side of things (what was found with +/- timing and boost tuning tuning, etc). Last edited by tazswing; 06-16-2009 at 04:28 PM. |
06-16-2009, 03:52 PM | #44 |
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I am assuming that the HTA turbo has a 2.4" inlet? Is it possible to get a 3" inlet with this turbo? I have been kicking around the 20g idea for a while now and haven't made teh plung yet. The HTA beign as cheap as it is makes me think twice. I was going to go with either the TD05-7cm^2 EWG or the TD06-8cm^2 both coming with a 3"inlet. Now I am so confused....
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06-16-2009, 04:01 PM | #45 | |
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06-16-2009, 04:05 PM | #46 |
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I can't see the graphs...?
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06-16-2009, 04:08 PM | #47 |
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06-16-2009, 04:53 PM | #48 |
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Graphs are all up. Also, anyone local just hit me up with a PM and we can try and meet up for a ride if you want to feel the car first hand.
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06-16-2009, 05:04 PM | #49 |
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06-16-2009, 05:08 PM | #50 | |
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