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Old 01-27-2014, 12:34 PM   #151
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Thanks for all the info... but how about a update on a release date?
The posts above explain that the estimated release date is spring time. Also, GS said that R&D is gunna rev up starting this week. So I doubt they can give a more exact date than "Spring time" which is about a month or so away ,depending on which half of the US your in and what you consider spring time Asking when the Group Buy list will start is probably a more feasible question.
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:40 PM   #152
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The posts above explain that the estimated release date is spring time. Also, GS said that R&D is gunna rev up starting this week. So I doubt they can give a more exact date than "Spring time" which is about a month or so away ,depending on which half of the US your in and what you consider spring time Asking when the Group Buy list will start is probably a more feasible question.
Yep, you got it. The best I can do is to tell you that once the design is 100% detailed and finalized, we'll wait around 4wks for the mold makers to build the molds for casting and another 6-8wks for the first round of castings to be completed and machined. In that time, we'll have the cores manufactured. Once we have parts, we'll begin welding. Because we're at the mercy of the foundry and demand perfection, it's hard to give a more exact date. Again, the #1 priority here is for the finished product to be the very best that it can be. If/when complications arise in the process, we'll handle them as needed and continue forward. At no point will I allow sacrifices in cost, performance or quality to be made in the name of rushing to market. With that said, we're eager to have these available, so keeping an eye on this thread as we ramp back up will be your best source of information!

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Old 01-27-2014, 12:47 PM   #153
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This may be a dumb request, but what about a detachable heatsheild for the bottom/back of the turbo side end tank?
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:52 PM   #154
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This may be a dumb request, but what about a detachable heatsheild for the bottom/back of the turbo side end tank?
Not a dumb question at all. I'm actually playing with something similar on my personal car. It's a possibility, but to be honest, between the turbo heatshields that are available and the coatings/films that are available, we can do a pretty good job of managing heat without adding a ton of cost/complexity to the TMIC. It's something that we'll consider though, depending on how much room is actually down there. I think a duct that would help pull the air away from the bottom of the TMIC would be neat. Air can only flow into the top as fast as it can exit the bottom, afterall.

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Old 01-27-2014, 12:58 PM   #155
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Please do take your time. The fundamental issue I see with the TMICs already on the market is fitment. Flow, and all that good stuff, there is only so much you can do. But having a large TMIC that actually fits without rubbing, etc? Damn.

If this happens, and it fits my OXT, I will smash my Perrin and not even bother trying to sell it!

If it fits...
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:41 PM   #156
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Awesome!! Thanks for the more detailed update!! Can't wait for you guys to roll this out!!!
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Old 01-27-2014, 02:55 PM   #157
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yup on all points. i love my pw tmic and made good power. love grimsspeed but i cant wait, i think the ship has sailed and they wont sell too many. i wont sell my pw for a grim, unless its less than 500, which it wont be
I disagree with meat wrx's statement regarding the number of fins that a process west TMIC has someone did a review between that and the FMS TMIC and you could see significantly more fins on the process west TMIC then you could with the FMS.

I agree however with bigRob's statement about the process west TMIC being the best current available TMIC available on the market however I disagree with the fact that I think grimmspeed will make a killing selling their top mounts. I'm pretty sure when Grimmspeed finishes their design of their top mount it'll be on par if not better than the process west top mount. I'm not trying to disrespect process west I think they have great top mounts however I think you're over estimating the number of people that have already upgraded their intercooler. Currently the only good choices are the process west top mount or other front mount intercoolers however with many of the aftermarket front mount intercoolers the crash beam needs to be taken off or replaced. This is very unappealing to many people which is why many have chosen like myself not to upgrade their intercooler. Also with the fact that the spearco intercooler flopped I think a lot of people have been waiting for a product like this to come along for very long time

When I heard that Grimmspeed was manufacturing a top mount intercooler I stopped looking for deals on a process west top mount. I'm going to be picking one of these up as soon as they're available for sale. I just hope that it's everything that grimmspeed is promising it to be.

Grimmspeed please take your time and take as long as you need to to get the product right a lot of people were pushing for this Spearco intercooler to be done sooner and their design had some massive flaws in it.

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Old 01-27-2014, 03:55 PM   #158
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I have been debating if I should pick up a process west. I think I'll wait a bit now
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:59 PM   #159
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Interested (pending price of course).
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Old 01-27-2014, 04:06 PM   #160
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Interested (pending price of course).
yeah I'm wondering about that as well
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Old 01-27-2014, 05:26 PM   #161
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I'm glad so many of you are on board and that you 'get it'. We're not in the business of pumping out intercoolers in every possible fitment with mediocre design methodology and universal end tanks. These are very specialized.

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Interested (pending price of course).
Being that we're not in production yet, I can't promise anything. What I can tell you is that the PW unit is our benchmark. In fact, it's sitting on my desk as I type this. If we can't make a better performing, better fitting, high quality alternative at a more affordable price point, we will have a very hard time moving forward. This is no small task and is why we're taking the care that we are in the design stage.

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Old 01-27-2014, 06:09 PM   #162
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I'm glad so many of you are on board and that you 'get it'. We're not in the business of pumping out intercoolers in every possible fitment with mediocre design methodology and universal end tanks. These are very specialized.


Being that we're not in production yet, I can't promise anything. What I can tell you is that the PW unit is our benchmark. In fact, it's sitting on my desk as I type this. If we can't make a better performing, better fitting, high quality alternative at a more affordable price point, we will have a very hard time moving forward. This is no small task and is why we're taking the care that we are in the design stage.

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Sounds GREAT! I'll be holding off on my decision
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Old 01-27-2014, 06:39 PM   #163
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Permanent mold casting it is haha, thanks for taking the time to explain that process
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Old 01-28-2014, 01:00 AM   #164
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You originally said there would be a splitter designed for the lgt folks. Is this still true?
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:37 AM   #165
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Not a dumb question at all. I'm actually playing with something similar on my personal car. It's a possibility, but to be honest, between the turbo heatshields that are available and the coatings/films that are available, we can do a pretty good job of managing heat without adding a ton of cost/complexity to the TMIC. It's something that we'll consider though, depending on how much room is actually down there. I think a duct that would help pull the air away from the bottom of the TMIC would be neat. Air can only flow into the top as fast as it can exit the bottom, afterall. Matt Beenen Engineering
+1 in the outlet duct for the TMIC! That sounds amazing! This kind innovation has Grimmspeed written allll over it.
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Old 01-28-2014, 01:55 PM   #166
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Yup. Sitting here at work reading this thread for the 50th time. Still waiting on grimmspeed! Is it spring yet?
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Old 01-28-2014, 06:18 PM   #167
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Alright, I feel bad that you guys haven't seen pictures in a while, so here's a quick screenshot of what I'm playing with right now. Don't mind the crooked splitter, I'm playing with how much tolerance there is in the mounting brackets (for ease of fitment in different vehicles) and how that affects splitter coverage.

What you see here is hopefully/probably similar to what we can expect as a finished product. It's along those lines, anyway. You can't tell from this, obviously, but the core is a decent bit larger than the PW and although I don't have it detailed in this particular model, the core specifications (internal and external bar heights and fin densities) are far superior. A similar turbo adaptor is used, but the end tank is modeled to eliminate around 100 degrees of bending in the silicone. You can see that the BPV is bolted directly to the end tank. For the valves that I've tested (in CAD and on the car) this seems to cause no problems. There's a lot going on down there, so this is something that is definitely subject to change, but I really like this solution if I can make it work.

Before anybody asks, the added feature modeled onto the inlet hose is to support portions of it while it's being printed for prototype use.



I should also note that I noticed that my image links are broken and probably have been since the launch of our new site. I'll get those fixed ASAP!

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Yep, that is still the plan!
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+1 in the outlet duct for the TMIC! That sounds amazing! This kind innovation has Grimmspeed written allll over it.
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Waiting on top mount purchase for this. Hurry Up.
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Waiting on top mount purchase for this. Hurry Up.
No don't hurry! Take your time and put out a baller TMIC
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:55 AM   #170
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I'm hurrying, I assure you, but not at the cost of sacrificing quality/performance/cost.

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Old 01-29-2014, 10:06 AM   #171
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the CAD model looks so great Matt! man alive, just the sort of new GS TMIC porn i needed to keep me patient for the release.

i would speculate the BPV's recirc hose fitment will be better than PW's, with your BPV's mounting location being lower and closer to the center of the core? i imagine you'll also make a silicone recirc hose too?
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Old 01-29-2014, 11:23 AM   #172
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the CAD model looks so great Matt! man alive, just the sort of new GS TMIC porn i needed to keep me patient for the release.

i would speculate the BPV's recirc hose fitment will be better than PW's, with your BPV's mounting location being lower and closer to the center of the core? i imagine you'll also make a silicone recirc hose too?
Thanks! Regarding the recirc hose, that is still up for debate. I'd like to try and re-use the factory hose for ease of installation as well as cost reduction, but it's pretty ugly, so I'm torn. Any thoughts? Have any of you swapped out your BPV recirc hose?

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Old 01-29-2014, 11:37 AM   #173
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Thanks! Regarding the recirc hose, that is still up for debate. I'd like to try and re-use the factory hose for ease of installation as well as cost reduction, but it's pretty ugly, so I'm torn. Any thoughts? Have any of you swapped out your BPV recirc hose?

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I like how you guys ask the people that are actuallly putting this stuff in their cars. Not like some of the garbage out there. Good on you. Ill be waiting for this to come into production. I have a turbo sitting here waiting to be installed. Nice work so far.
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Thanks! Regarding the recirc hose, that is still up for debate. I'd like to try and re-use the factory hose for ease of installation as well as cost reduction, but it's pretty ugly, so I'm torn. Any thoughts? Have any of you swapped out your BPV recirc hose?

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how much pressure can this hose see? would a straight walled silicone one be a performance upgrade? does anyone even make a shaped one for the 08-14 wrx/05-09 LGT? i imagine a straight length of silicone hose would work just as well.

i vaguely considered changing mine after swapping my stock BPV to a Forge one, but didn't find one easily and didn't care much since my stocker was still fine, so i gave up...
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Old 01-29-2014, 12:09 PM   #175
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how much pressure can this hose see? would a straight walled silicone one be a performance upgrade? does anyone even make a shaped one for the 08-14 wrx/05-09 LGT? i imagine a straight length of silicone hose would work just as well.

i vaguely considered changing mine after swapping my stock BPV to a Forge one, but didn't find one easily and didn't care much since my stocker was still fine, so i gave up...
Samco makes one. Here's a thread on LGT Forums about it:

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthrea...co-202935.html

I'd vote for makes one as an option for people. I'm planning a bunch of upgrades that will include having my intake manifold off once this TMIC come out, so it would be a good time to change it out if you guys decide to make one.
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