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06-11-2008, 12:51 PM | #501 | |||
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06-12-2008, 07:23 AM | #502 | |
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The latest 2008 Summer edition of Subaru's Drive magazine in the "Caring for Subaru Turbocharged Engines" aritcle states: Quote:
AutoX = 3 to 8 minutes of driving at speeds no higher than found on a highway, 60-65mph tops in most cases only for a brief period of time with speeds ranging from 40-55 mph average. A distance of generally 3-6 miles in total for a day. For SOA to 'mandate' oil changes before & after an AutoX means someone was mis-informed on what AutoX really is. These conditions are almost the same as driving on a highway, and most of the time, at speeds much lower than found on the highway. So, if one has to change their oil before and after an AutoX, does that mean it has to be changed before and after going to work? To a movie? Anywhere? AutoX is mostly turning around cones at speeds lower than found on a highway. It's more about tires, and suspension than what's going on under the hood. What if I lived on a curvy mountain road? Would i have to change the oil before I leave for the day and when I return home? Can you see what I'm getting at? I believe the article is disingenuous of SOA to the owners that auto-x their Subarus. Oil samples taken and shipped out to independent labs after events show virtually no breakdown of the makeup. Are there studies that have been done to backup the claim that oil changes are now required for auto-x events? How, or whom would I contact to have that statement retracted in the next Drive? It borders on absurd to request this of owners, from the person that may do 1-2 events a year, to the person that does a full season of events. Almost the whole AutoX community is laughing at this statement, and it's putting Subaru in a bad light in that regard. --Keith Casey (2003 SCCA Solo-II and ProSolo STX Class Champion in a 2002 WRX Wagon) Last edited by KC; 06-12-2008 at 07:34 AM. |
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06-12-2008, 07:53 AM | #503 | |
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06-12-2008, 08:07 AM | #504 | |
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It clearly stated an oil change MUST be done before AND after an AutoX, when the conditions are no different than a drive on a twisty road, or on/off ramps at speed, should be handled like any other general maintenance, not by a wholly absurd mandate/requirement of pre & post oil changes before & after some 'loaded G' turning. If I take an off ramp a little hard, and didn't do an oil change directly before-hand, but did one about 1.5K miles ago, does that now void my warranty? --kC Last edited by KC; 06-12-2008 at 09:55 AM. Reason: Changed "...of pre & post oil changes after some..." to "of pre & post oil changes before & after some ..." |
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06-12-2008, 09:29 AM | #505 |
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^^Agreed, changing oil before and after an autoX makes no sense. To give a similar example, I took a winter safe driving course that involved a lot of slaloming around cones etc. The only recommendation re. oil was to make sure it was topped up to avoid oil starvation.
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06-12-2008, 12:15 PM | #506 | |
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I'm thinking you don't know what an auto-x is. Most autocross 'events' are single day events with 3-6 runs at 40-60ish seconds. At most, a car may see 6 minutes of run time in a single day. (And if you can find those events, please, let me know, I want to live there!). Around here, we get around 3-4 minutes PER event.
Now National events, courses are 60ish seconds, over the course of 2 days... but only 3 runs per day, which works out to less than 6 min of seat time PER event weekend. SCCA Solo Nationals, in Heartland Park Topeka saw a total of 4.5 min of drive time for the fastest AS STi. What would it take to have a retraction to that line? Who would I need to call to have it fixed? I'm serious. Someone or some people truly don't know what an auto-x is and how little it damages your car vs every day driving. I'd even go as far as to contend that on 90 degree days stop-and-go traffic, with the A/C on, for >30 min is more damaging to your car than 3 minutes of seat time at an auto-x. --kC Last edited by KC; 06-12-2008 at 02:46 PM. |
06-12-2008, 02:48 PM | #510 | |
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Just take the article as a reminder to check your oil and change it now and again. |
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06-12-2008, 02:52 PM | #511 | |
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Again, it's not a reminder when it's in black and white as it is. It's a mandate that over zealous service reps *will* (not may) take too far. Retraction or fixing to 'May require' will get me off of this tangent. --kC |
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06-12-2008, 03:18 PM | #512 | |
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Like I said, it was an article aimed at general car care, not warranty rules...and, you know, it's probably not bad advice. |
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06-12-2008, 04:02 PM | #513 | |
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For instance lets say that SOA decides for the 09 STI you need to change the oil before and after an auto-x or your warranty coverage is null and void, they cannot make that retroactive to the 08's even though it is the same car. They can say it is a good idea to do that, but they cannot decline a claim based on 09 parameters versus 08. |
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06-12-2008, 08:06 PM | #514 |
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btw, it's not just your wipers but the whole mechanism - the Project Manager for Forester made a point of discussing the work they'd put into improving the system.
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06-12-2008, 08:22 PM | #515 |
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SOA Blog - would 16" wheels fit on the 2009 Forester XT (winter wheels)? Any word on an SPT parts coming out for the 2009 Forester? If SPT parts for the 2008 WRX sedan fit perfectly on the 2009 FXT, would it have any negative effects on the warranty?
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06-12-2008, 08:29 PM | #516 | |
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Please, please, please use them on other models. I installed a set on my 04 XT and they work in excess of 140mph...... The 08 STI ones fit on the 02-07 Impreza as well (unofficially of course ) |
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06-12-2008, 09:18 PM | #517 | |
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Freakin' brilliant. This blog guy knows his stuff!!! I mean... he even had meetings with the Wiper-designer??? If only all car companies were this cool...
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06-13-2008, 08:20 AM | #519 |
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Well, if you can contact him and let him know he did a great job
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06-13-2008, 11:48 AM | #520 |
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I see that my post got deleted also. I am on my 3rd set of blades and my 2nd set of blade assemblies already on my 08 2.5i. There were missing spots on the windshield infront of the driver and the passenger. The only thing the dealer thought was the blades were bad or the assemblies were bent. I think they are really crappy.
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06-13-2008, 12:24 PM | #521 | |
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Another couple passenger seat complaints from '09 Forester owners, just to keep it on the radar:
"Dislikes? The passenger seat is lower than the driver's seat. It's OK when she's driving, since I'm taller, but when I drive she seems about a foot shorter than me, when in fact she's tall. I will be checking that seat track to see if there is an easy and safe way to lift it half inch or so." http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/dir....ee99548/30229 As to the low seat postion, all 3 people who have sat in the passenger seat of my Forester have all complained about seat height and ask me, "Where is the height adjustment?". ... Has anyone asked their dealer if anything can be done about permanently raising the seat height? I will call my salesman to see if anything can be done. http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/dir.../.f178d36/1680 Last edited by keepclam; 06-16-2008 at 06:53 PM. Reason: add'l complaint added |
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06-17-2008, 12:00 AM | #524 |
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SOA Blog - now that we have the 09 Legacy info out, I can ask you what was the reasoning behind not making it available with Bluetooth? Hopefully it was not simply to wait for the redesign in 2010. It just seems silly nowadays to spend 20-30K+ on a vehicle w/o hands free communication (despite being law in many parts of the country), when you can also buy a vehicle from other auto manufacturers from in the 15's and get this technology.
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06-17-2008, 09:56 PM | #525 |
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Dear SOA Blog,
Why is it that I can't get an Impreza with a sunroof? |
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