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07-29-2013, 02:55 AM | #26 |
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i can do it in steel toe work boots....hiking boots...bare foot....sneakers....
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07-29-2013, 09:51 AM | #27 |
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07-29-2013, 11:43 AM | #28 |
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07-29-2013, 11:53 AM | #29 |
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I use my hands. I steer with my forehead though.
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07-29-2013, 11:58 AM | #30 |
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07-29-2013, 12:17 PM | #31 |
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Easiest way to heel-toe in my old E46 BMW was to brake with your big toe and throttle with your pinkie side of your foot. Little wacky but it worked.
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07-29-2013, 12:28 PM | #32 |
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07-29-2013, 01:43 PM | #33 |
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07-29-2013, 02:02 PM | #34 |
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I heel-toe under my desk all day long at work while I'm on my computer. Yep, I'm that full racecar.....
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07-29-2013, 07:47 PM | #35 | |
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Try a foxbody with size 13 steel toed boots lol.. I'm going to be moving my mustangs pedals around a bit eventually. I wanted to get a nice pair of pumas for driving but my nike's do just fine. The older the shoes the better it feels. |
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07-29-2013, 07:56 PM | #36 |
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This is a dieing art, in motorcycles as well as cars. The new corvette has active rev matching, same deal. I think the 370z as well, right?
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07-29-2013, 08:36 PM | #37 |
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Yes, the 370Z also has active rev-matching. I found it actually threw me off - it created an unexpected behavior in the car that, on track and in the moment with many things to process, I didn't understand. In an effort to understand, I paused for a moment, and that corner was blown (didn't go off or anything, just didn't do it as effectively as I could have). I adjusted to it for later corners... but would rather not have it. I still need a foot ready for the throttle just in case.
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07-30-2013, 10:24 AM | #38 |
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i tried a few times, but being 6'4 it's hard ; <
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07-30-2013, 04:26 PM | #39 |
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I have size 11 feet, and have no problem turning my whole foot sideways so my heel is on the brakes, and I blip the throttle with my toes. I find it lets me keep better control of both pedals than trying to use the big toe/pinky toe method. Also I drive a BRZ, and my dad has an '07 WRX, my footwell is smaller but my pedals are better set up for it.
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07-30-2013, 04:28 PM | #40 |
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look into a grimmspeed master brake cylinder brace, or maybe ss brake lines, both should give you a firmer pedal, the brace is easier and cheaper though.
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07-30-2013, 07:11 PM | #41 |
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Chalking up another one.
In my old MKIV Golf the gas pedal was way lower than the brake and the first time I tried it I ended up slamming the brakes and not even getting near the throttle Took some doing but I eventually got something like heel-toe in that car. |
07-31-2013, 09:09 AM | #42 |
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07-31-2013, 01:22 PM | #43 |
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It's easier to heel toe when you are threshold braking because the pedal is in a more consistent spot. It's harder (but it'll eventually become easy) when not threshold braking; ie downshifting on the street.
But if you have a manual transmission car, there's no reason why you shouldn't learn to heel-tow rev match. Key being REV MATCH... and not so much emphasis on the heel-toe part. As others have described, whatever it takes to properly rev match using brake and accel with one foot is the important thing. Here's one tip I found useful: your right foot should be flexed up with toe pointed towards your face, then plant the heel on the floor under the accelerator (not the brake). Using the tilt of your foot at the heel allows you to roll on/off the accelerator. When you want to brake, *keep your heel planted under the accel* and tilt your foot to the left to roll on/off the brakes. ^ this angle over the brake makes the muscle memory in your foot more ready to heel-toe, since it is the angle you'll be doing it with. |
08-27-2013, 05:04 PM | #44 |
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Awe inspiring stuff. I really ought to learn how to do this. I always rev match on downshifts, but I brake first, then down shift.
I will go practice in my driveway first and make race car noises. Q: What the heck is Senna doing pumping the throttle near the apex -- induced oversteer? |
08-27-2013, 10:20 PM | #45 | |
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08-27-2013, 10:44 PM | #46 |
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From Subaru themselves.............
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08-27-2013, 11:04 PM | #47 |
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Friend of mine has those in his rs. He loves them
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08-27-2013, 11:13 PM | #48 |
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where can those pedals be bought?
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08-27-2013, 11:36 PM | #49 |
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It could be throttle on rotation, but it may just be simple weight transfer. An NSX (at least, the ones I've driven) responds really well to that kind of input for weight transfer. What looks like a harsh input actually balances the car very well. Feedback is extremely quick, and reactions are communicated but are small, so that seemingly large input means little, precise movements from the car. Whether it's about power on rotation or about weight transfer, it's little adjustments to get both the right placement on track and the right rotation from the car.
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Source: http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/aft/29667 Here's an explanation from Takeo Kiuchi, Senna's Honda engine engineer 1990-92: "Normally the corner speed is decided at the entry - by the tyre grip. But Senna used the throttle to change the yaw of the rear tyre, using the engine torque over the limit of tyre grip. He would get yaw change into the car but without letting it become a slide - that's why only short, very quick movements on the throttle." ""The normal technique on corner entry is to keep it as smooth as possible", explains Takeo Kiuchi, Senna's race engineer of 1990-92. "But Ayrton would use the throttle to put more torque through the tyre and change the yaw, a little bit each time. This way he would get a better trajectory before the apex without as much steering. When we did our simulations, usually the actual time a driver set was slightly slower than the simulation;with Ayrton he was always nearly slightly quicker. That was because we couldn't model what he was doing with the throttle and how it affected the car." |
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